Please i need good last version WinUAE Config for games

maxken75 · 30 April 2012, 23:42

I have installed the last winuae version, but the games that i try to play are very slowly and with bad sound, with old version of winuae same games are ok. I'm trying also to load some whdload games but they are very slowly and bad sound with this last version of winuae. Please can you send me some config file of the last winuae version to play games like real amiga?

s2325 · 01 May 2012, 00:14

Try 1.6.0 version.

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 00:23

Last version don't work with games?

jbenam · 01 May 2012, 00:47

Version 2.4.0 works like a charm on most newer systems.

Maybe your PC is really really old?

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenam

Version 2.4.0 works like a charm on most newer systems.

Maybe your PC is really really old?

I have an amd quad core processor and win xp, please can you send me a good config?

Retro-Nerd · 01 May 2012, 01:03

This is fast enough. Use the quickstart feature (F12, quickstart Tab). Very old saved .uae configs doesn't worked properly anymore with newer WinUAE versions.

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

This is fast enough. Use the quickstart feature (F12, quickstart Tab). Very old saved .uae configs doesn't worked properly anymore with newer WinUAE versions.

I tried with quickstart option to load a game but the same problem, the sound is too bad and some time begin slow. When i try winuae 1.5 the same game run perfect!

Retro-Nerd · 01 May 2012, 01:10

What happens with v2.3.3?

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 01:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

What happens with v2.3.3?

After 2.x version games don't work

I'm using 1.5

Retro-Nerd · 01 May 2012, 01:18

Maybe too old graphic card drivers? Have you tried D3D and DirectDraw, and the low latency Vsync vs the Legacy Vsync in the newer versions?

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Maybe too old graphic card drivers? Have you tried D3D and DirectDraw, and the low latency Vsync vs the Legacy Vsync in the newer versions?

Thanks, i will try also the 2.3.3 is better because games run better.

Toni Wilen · 01 May 2012, 09:23

Not very useful answers. Usually the point is to find the problem, not trying all kinds of random things until something happens..

Do you have this installed: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/895980 This is practically guaranteed to be a problem with XP and many dual/quad AMD CPUs.

Enable on screen leds (misc panel).
Check CPU% snd SND% leds. Does CPU% stay constantly over 100% and how much or does it jump around?
Disable sound: does it still do the same?

Also 2.4.0 has slowdown problem if software filters are enabled.

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 10:40

Maybe i found the problem, when i play a whdgames, the game begin slow when it have access to harddisk and load some files during my play, after when the game finish to load its files return 100% natural fast. With other version of winuae this not happen.

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxken75

Maybe i found the problem, when i play a whdgames, the game begin slow when it have access to harddisk and load some files during my play, after when the game finish to load its files return 100% natural fast. With other version of winuae this not happen.

Any news how i can run a game with whd load better with the new winuae version like the old version of winuae?

Toni Wilen · 01 May 2012, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxken75

Maybe i found the problem, when i play a whdgames, the game begin slow when it have access to harddisk and load some files during my play, after when the game finish to load its files return 100% natural fast. With other version of winuae this not happen.

You sure you have same s:whdload.prefs (preload not enabled?) and/or memory setup? Whdload HD access always needs to pause the game (also blanks the screen) because game and OS can't be running at the same time.

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

You sure you have same s:whdload.prefs (preload not enabled?) and/or memory setup? Whdload HD access always needs to pause the game (also blanks the screen) because game and OS can't be running at the same time.

But with old version of winuae all games work perfectly without any change.

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 20:18

Can you send me a good ready config that i can try?

Toni Wilen · 01 May 2012, 20:25

Attach your existing configuration and I'll check if the problem is configuration or something else.

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Attach your existing configuration and I'll check if the problem is configuration or something else.

My config

WHDGames.uae

Toni Wilen · 01 May 2012, 20:44

I can see anything obviously wrong.

Do you get same problem in windowed mode? Does switching triple buffer to double buffer (display panel) fix the problem?
EDIT: try also switching from directdraw to direct3d (misc panel)

Some small issues:

Your memory config is a bit too complex, there is no need to have slow ram or z2 fast when using whdload. Chip + Z3 fast is fine.

You also have AGA configuration but non-AGA ROM which could cause strange side-effects (but probably nothing to do with this problem)

maxken75 · 01 May 2012, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I can see anything obviously wrong.

Do you get same problem in windowed mode? Does switching triple buffer to double buffer (display panel) fix the problem?
EDIT: try also switching from directdraw to direct3d (misc panel)

Some small issues:

Your memory config is a bit too complex, there is no need to have slow ram or z2 fast when using whdload. Chip + Z3 fast is fine.

You also have AGA configuration but non-AGA ROM which could cause strange side-effects (but probably nothing to do with this problem)

I tried all possible solution but nothing, repeat, with winuae 1,5 works all perfectly. I don't know.......

Toni Wilen · 02 May 2012, 11:15

Could you describe what exactly happens during slowdown? Does CPU% and SND% jump when it happens or do they stay stable?

Attach also logs (winuaelog.txt, tick logging enable check box in misc panel). from last working version and from latest 1.4.1 beta, thanks.

maxken75 · 02 May 2012, 21:46

Hi,
sorry for the late,
i notice that the problem is when the yellow led (first on the left) turn on, so the game begin slow and the sound is bad, after, when this led turn off (during the game) all game return normal, but not is only a whd games but also an adf disk game. The problem is only on version of winuae 2.x and more.

maxken75 · 03 May 2012, 00:09

I am sure now that in this new version of winuae there is a problem in the sound is'nt emulated very well, when a whd game load his sound the game begin slow.

maxken75 · 03 May 2012, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxken75

I am sure now that in this new version of winuae there is a problem in the sound is'nt emulated very well, when a whd game load his sound the game begin slow.

Anyone can help me? Toni?

Toni Wilen · 03 May 2012, 13:01

Answer post #22.

Sound emulation rarely (if ever) has anything to do with sound problems. Sound will be the first you notice if something slows down the emulation, it is same with all emulators. (No sound data created fast enough) One display frame being shown longer than normally can be very difficult to notice.

maxken75 · 03 May 2012, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Answer post #22.

Sound emulation rarely (if ever) has anything to do with sound problems. Sound will be the first you notice if something slows down the emulation, it is same with all emulators. (No sound data created fast enough) One display frame being shown longer than normally can be very difficult to notice.

When i increase the buffer sound it is better but the sound not is in syncro
what do you suggest to me?

prowler · 03 May 2012, 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxken75

When i increase the buffer sound it is better but the sound not is in syncro
what do you suggest to me?

Really, maxken75, the more information you can provide the better Toni can diagnose your problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Answer post #22:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Could you describe what exactly happens during slowdown? Does CPU% and SND% jump when it happens or do they stay stable?

Attach also logs (winuaelog.txt, tick logging enable check box in misc panel). from last working version and from latest 1.4.1 beta, thanks.

maxken75 · 04 May 2012, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Really, maxken75, the more information you can provide the better Toni can diagnose your problem.

Happen the SND led jump and begin yellow and often also red

Toni Wilen · 04 May 2012, 09:12

Logs are the most important missing information.

maxken75 · 04 May 2012, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Logs are the most important missing information.

Sorry i forgot to include the file, please give a look, i attached the file! is a session with a whdload game "brian the lion AGA"

winuaelog.txt

Toni Wilen · 04 May 2012, 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxken75

Sorry i forgot to include the file, please give a look, i attached the file! is a session with a whdload game "brian the lion AGA"

Attachment 31492

Attach same log from version that does not have the slowdown.
Unfortunately I don't see anything obviously wrong.

maxken75 · 04 May 2012, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Attach same log from version that does not have the slowdown.
Unfortunately I don't see anything obviously wrong.

winuaelog.txt This version is Winuae 1.4.6 and is ok with all games without slowdown, please check.

maxken75 · 05 May 2012, 16:12

Any news?

Toni Wilen · 05 May 2012, 17:12

Include your PC specs. Perhaps it is just a bit too low for later versions.

Try also without JIT. JIT and WHDLoad does not always work as expected.

maxken75 · 05 May 2012, 17:35

I have an AMD Quad Core X4 1.87gz for 4 Processor
3 gb Ram and Windows XP SP3

When i deactivate the sound all games run well, but when sound is activate it slowdown the games, i think is sound option maybe

Toni Wilen · 05 May 2012, 19:14

Looks fine.. Still nothing obvious.. (As I said, sound getting bad rarely means problem is in sound emulation)

Include winuaebootlog.txt (use latest beta).

maxken75 · 06 May 2012, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Looks fine.. Still nothing obvious.. (As I said, sound getting bad rarely means problem is in sound emulation)

Include winuaebootlog.txt (use latest beta).

I used lastest beta, this is my winuaebootlog.txt

Please check

maxken75 · 06 May 2012, 16:52

Hi, i uploaded a video when i play Brian the lion (WHDLoad
) http://www.mediafire.com/?g48lb48bladk85y
Please check and you will see some problems of the last beta of your emulator.

maxken75 · 07 May 2012, 12:09

Have you seen the video?

30 April 2012, 23:42	#1
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Please i need good last version WinUAE Config for games I have installed the last winuae version, but the games that i try to play are very slowly and with bad sound, with old version of winuae same games are ok. I'm trying also to load some whdload games but they are very slowly and bad sound with this last version of winuae. Please can you send me some config file of the last winuae version to play games like real amiga?

01 May 2012, 20:44	#20
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	I can see anything obviously wrong. Do you get same problem in windowed mode? Does switching triple buffer to double buffer (display panel) fix the problem? EDIT: try also switching from directdraw to direct3d (misc panel) Some small issues: Your memory config is a bit too complex, there is no need to have slow ram or z2 fast when using whdload. Chip + Z3 fast is fine. You also have AGA configuration but non-AGA ROM which could cause strange side-effects (but probably nothing to do with this problem) Last edited by Toni Wilen; 01 May 2012 at 20:50.

06 May 2012, 16:52	#39
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Hi, i uploaded a video when i play Brian the lion (WHDLoad ) http://www.mediafire.com/?g48lb48bladk85y Please check and you will see some problems of the last beta of your emulator. Last edited by maxken75; 06 May 2012 at 18:57.

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01 May 2012, 00:14	#2
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 32 Posts: 11,257	Try 1.6.0 version.

01 May 2012, 00:23	#3
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Last version don't work with games?

01 May 2012, 00:47	#4
jbenam Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 25 Posts: 219	Version 2.4.0 works like a charm on most newer systems. Maybe your PC is really really old?

01 May 2012, 01:03	#6
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,372	This is fast enough. Use the quickstart feature (F12, quickstart Tab). Very old saved .uae configs doesn't worked properly anymore with newer WinUAE versions.

01 May 2012, 01:10	#8
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,372	What happens with v2.3.3?

01 May 2012, 01:18	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,372	Maybe too old graphic card drivers? Have you tried D3D and DirectDraw, and the low latency Vsync vs the Legacy Vsync in the newer versions?

01 May 2012, 09:23	#12
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	Not very useful answers. Usually the point is to find the problem, not trying all kinds of random things until something happens.. Do you have this installed: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/895980 This is practically guaranteed to be a problem with XP and many dual/quad AMD CPUs. Enable on screen leds (misc panel). Check CPU% snd SND% leds. Does CPU% stay constantly over 100% and how much or does it jump around? Disable sound: does it still do the same? Also 2.4.0 has slowdown problem if software filters are enabled.

01 May 2012, 10:40	#13
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Maybe i found the problem, when i play a whdgames, the game begin slow when it have access to harddisk and load some files during my play, after when the game finish to load its files return 100% natural fast. With other version of winuae this not happen.

01 May 2012, 20:18	#17
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Can you send me a good ready config that i can try?

01 May 2012, 20:25	#18
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	Attach your existing configuration and I'll check if the problem is configuration or something else.

02 May 2012, 11:15	#22
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	Could you describe what exactly happens during slowdown? Does CPU% and SND% jump when it happens or do they stay stable? Attach also logs (winuaelog.txt, tick logging enable check box in misc panel). from last working version and from latest 1.4.1 beta, thanks.

02 May 2012, 21:46	#23
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Hi, sorry for the late, i notice that the problem is when the yellow led (first on the left) turn on, so the game begin slow and the sound is bad, after, when this led turn off (during the game) all game return normal, but not is only a whd games but also an adf disk game. The problem is only on version of winuae 2.x and more.

03 May 2012, 00:09	#24
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	I am sure now that in this new version of winuae there is a problem in the sound is'nt emulated very well, when a whd game load his sound the game begin slow.

03 May 2012, 13:01	#26
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	Answer post #22. Sound emulation rarely (if ever) has anything to do with sound problems. Sound will be the first you notice if something slows down the emulation, it is same with all emulators. (No sound data created fast enough) One display frame being shown longer than normally can be very difficult to notice.

04 May 2012, 09:12	#30
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	Logs are the most important missing information.

05 May 2012, 16:12	#34
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Any news?

05 May 2012, 17:12	#35
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	Include your PC specs. Perhaps it is just a bit too low for later versions. Try also without JIT. JIT and WHDLoad does not always work as expected.

05 May 2012, 17:35	#36
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	I have an AMD Quad Core X4 1.87gz for 4 Processor 3 gb Ram and Windows XP SP3 When i deactivate the sound all games run well, but when sound is activate it slowdown the games, i think is sound option maybe

05 May 2012, 19:14	#37
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 38 Posts: 11,941	Looks fine.. Still nothing obvious.. (As I said, sound getting bad rarely means problem is in sound emulation) Include winuaebootlog.txt (use latest beta).

07 May 2012, 12:09	#40
maxken75 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 46	Have you seen the video?

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