New Atari ST conversion coming to Amiga - Page 2

wilshy · 22 April 2012, 23:54

Cracking work.

Galahad/FLT · 23 April 2012, 00:32

In game keyboard stuff is now done, all ST keyboard code has been replaced by an interrupt driven keyboard routine, and options in game work as they should.

Now to interpret the mouse stuff, and we can actually have a playable version to playtest

tomcat666 · 23 April 2012, 06:47

Galahad, this might help ? :

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic...=mouse#p207756

there are some descriptions of the custom regs here (scroll down) :

http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomca...0Internals.htm

Man, there is SO LITTLE Atari ST programming info on the net compared to Amiga... you really have to dig and even after that you don't really find what you are looking for...

Galahad/FLT · 23 April 2012, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat666

Galahad, this might help ? :

http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic...=mouse#p207756

there are some descriptions of the custom regs here (scroll down) :

http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomca...0Internals.htm

Man, there is SO LITTLE Atari ST programming info on the net compared to Amiga... you really have to dig and even after that you don't really find what you are looking for...

Thanks for the headsup, but you do realise the thread you've linked from Atari Forum was created by me don't you?

tomcat666 · 23 April 2012, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Thanks for the headsup, but you do realise the thread you've linked from Atari Forum was created by me don't you?

LOL, sorry, didn't notice that

Man, is it really that bad with Atari ST documentation on the web ?

kamelito · 23 April 2012, 13:53

I think that it should be enough with this site no?
http://dev-docs.atariforge.org/

Kamel

spoUP · 23 April 2012, 20:28

Galahad: please smack a cracktro on it!

Galahad/FLT · 23 April 2012, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoUP

Galahad: please smack a cracktro on it!

Well, techically I had to crack it, so it would be rather silly to not include something.

Not too sure if I should do something as just me or maybe, just maybe make it a Fairlight release!....... hmmmmm.

spoUP · 24 April 2012, 01:08

Go the flt route!

imo all whdload installs should have cracktros for that authentic feeling.

copse · 24 April 2012, 06:34

Any chance you can document what you need to do, so that others who may wish to give it a shot have a good headstart?

jimmy2x2x · 24 April 2012, 06:37

Would love it to be a 2012 Fairlight Amiga release!

Great idea

Mequa · 24 April 2012, 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy2x2x

Would love it to be a 2012 Fairlight Amiga release!

Great idea

tomcat666 · 09 May 2012, 08:22

Any news on this ?

Galahad/FLT · 09 May 2012, 10:17

Yes its progressing, got a strange bug that slows the whole game down when a key press is detected which is slowing progress.

Toaks · 15 May 2012, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WfBDEzmhdQ

awesome!, looks great.

anyway, how about you sending back my Hellbent orginal? ...
it's sorely missed and its been 6 years by now.

alexh · 28 July 2012, 00:26

Looking forward to hearing more about this conversion, technical details and getting to try it. Let us know how it's going pls. Thanks

Methanoid · 28 July 2012, 12:50

Nice work

Galahad/FLT · 28 July 2012, 12:59

Strange bugs slowing it down, might have to optimise my ST to Amiga screen conversion routine to stop it happening.

Obliterator · 31 July 2012, 09:13

Just seen it running on the youtube link i cant wait to try it out awesome work there i must say

alexh · 19 October 2012, 16:19

I thought this might inspire you to have another play :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Marlon · 11 December 2012, 22:55

AWESOME work! I would absolutely LOVE to see 'International Karate' converted. I adored the C64 original and was gutted this never made it to the Amiga.

IK+ is great, of course, but I actually prefer the first game.

Codetapper · 13 January 2013, 11:39

Any progress on this Galahad?

meynaf · 14 January 2013, 08:16

I think you already know the answer...

If Galahad doesn't come in to say a thing here, you can bet he just silently dropped the project.

tomcat666 · 14 January 2013, 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

I think you already know the answer...

If Galahad doesn't come in to say a thing here, you can bet he just silently dropped the project.

Would be a real shame now that it basically worked with minor problems

meynaf · 14 January 2013, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomcat666

Would be a real shame now that it basically worked with minor problems

Basically worked ?
Don't trust youtube videos. IMO he has next to nothing.

Of course we could ask him to make a test release for his "basically working" version, but, guess what, i'm ready to bet he would just refuse.

tomcat666 · 14 January 2013, 10:50

I would call that "basically working" - game is working, there was only a problem with controls, if I understood it correctly.

spajdr · 14 January 2013, 11:04

Also it would be good in future to create a poll with list of atari games, that could be ported to amiga, give it like a week and game with most votes would be ported with no ETA given of course.

TCD · 14 January 2013, 11:12

Like this one: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=63042 ?

spajdr · 14 January 2013, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Like this one: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=63042 ?

Good point.
But new poll would be good to create, since some of the games on that vote list been already ported to Amiga.

Perhaps i can bribe Meynaf to port something like Karateka to Amiga?

Galahad/FLT · 15 January 2013, 01:12

Pessimism aside (thanks Meynaf!) haven't got much free time at the moment, my line of business over New Year means i'm just too busy, but that will change come February time when the rush is over and then perhaps I can return to it, but its certainly not forgotten.

meynaf · 16 January 2013, 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Pessimism aside (thanks Meynaf!) haven't got much free time at the moment, my line of business over New Year means i'm just too busy, but that will change come February time when the rush is over and then perhaps I can return to it, but its certainly not forgotten.

The game is supposed to be working, with just problems with controls, eh ? But for me, controls are the easiest part of an ST game port.
So, please forgive me, but i'm thinking you have nothing that works. Though you could just release some early beta to make me STFU...

Galahad/FLT · 16 January 2013, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

The game is supposed to be working, with just problems with controls, eh ? But for me, controls are the easiest part of an ST game port.
So, please forgive me, but i'm thinking you have nothing that works. Though you could just release some early beta to make me STFU...

Probably enough now isn't it Meynaf?

meynaf · 17 January 2013, 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Probably enough now isn't it Meynaf?

Sure you don't like this. But who pretended he was doing a game port and didn't do it ? Perhaps you will ask this thread to be closed, like the other ?

fishyfish · 17 January 2013, 09:24

Seriously guy, let it go. Youre coming across as a pompous git. Galahad's track record is enough to buy him some benefit of doubt. Your unnecessary aggression is doing neither yourself, or anyone actually interested in his work any favors.

I know neither of you, so there's no "rooting" for a friend here. It's all based on what is on display in this thread.

meynaf · 17 January 2013, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishyfish

Seriously guy, let it go. Youre coming across as a pompous git. Galahad's track record is enough to buy him some benefit of doubt. Your unnecessary aggression is doing neither yourself, or anyone actually interested in his work any favors.

I know neither of you, so there's no "rooting" for a friend here. It's all based on what is on display in this thread.

About his track record, i suggest you have a look at his Super Sprint game port thread (now closed). You may learn a few things.

I don't mean to aggress him, but i just hate it when people raise expectations and do nothing at the end - which he did already in the past.

But ok, i'll keep my mouth shut. Time will tell.

Leffmann · 17 January 2013, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Sure you don't like this. But who pretended he was doing a game port and didn't do it ? Perhaps you will ask this thread to be closed, like the other ?

He probably has work and family to take up his time, not everyone can sit in front of their computer all day long, and why would anyone be indebted or have to answer to you, like you're some sort of authority, just because they share pictures of what they're playing around with?

meynaf · 17 January 2013, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

He probably has work and family to take up his time, not everyone can sit in front of their computer all day long, and why would anyone be indebted or have to answer to you, like you're some sort of authority, just because they share pictures of what they're playing around with?

As I said, time will tell. I have nothing else to add.

bippym · 17 January 2013, 10:14

I'd like to add that I have been working on a game and have not done much since November (Christmas, New Year, work commitments and family commitments).

I have been doing bits over the past few days, and if you gave me the grief you are giving Galahad I would probably not be inclined to finish the game anyway!

We do this in our own time, and the games are free for the community, we ask for nothing in return apart from maybe a thanks and some honest feedback.

If Galahad does not finish this then that is his prerogative, he doesn't have to answer to you or anyone else, it's not like you have financial interest here is it?

Let it go please and show some courtesy!

Akira · 17 January 2013, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leffmann

He probably has work and family to take up his time, not everyone can sit in front of their computer all day long, and why would anyone be indebted or have to answer to you, like you're some sort of authority, just because they share pictures of what they're playing around with?

Sharing Leffmann's sentiments exactly. Internet is a messed up place and, Meynaf, believe it or not, some of us actually have a LIFE to live.
Also, you wouldn't dare to confront anyone like that in real life, I tell you.

Funny that your signature reads He who insults the other in a discussion is the one who's wrong. I guess it's a clear case of "do as I say, not as I do"

AnimaInCorpore · 17 January 2013, 10:37

While this thread went somewhat rude I would still like to know something more about the reasons why this port was a failure (if any).

AFAIK galahad was searching for some IKBD documentation in the Atari-Forum and so I think he was indeed serious about doing the port.

Cheers
Sascha

23 April 2012, 00:32	#42
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,029	In game keyboard stuff is now done, all ST keyboard code has been replaced by an interrupt driven keyboard routine, and options in game work as they should. Now to interpret the mouse stuff, and we can actually have a playable version to playtest __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

23 April 2012, 06:47	#43
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 40 Posts: 841	Galahad, this might help ? : http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic...=mouse#p207756 there are some descriptions of the custom regs here (scroll down) : http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomca...0Internals.htm Man, there is SO LITTLE Atari ST programming info on the net compared to Amiga... you really have to dig and even after that you don't really find what you are looking for... __________________ Best regards, Tom-Cat

23 April 2012, 20:28	#47
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 35 Posts: 239	Galahad: please smack a cracktro on it! __________________ Former member of Syndrome, Lunacy, Duplo, New Age, Three Little Elks. Currently member of Up Rough (Amiga) and Triad (C64)

24 April 2012, 01:08	#49
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 35 Posts: 239	Go the flt route! imo all whdload installs should have cracktros for that authentic feeling. __________________ Former member of Syndrome, Lunacy, Duplo, New Age, Three Little Elks. Currently member of Up Rough (Amiga) and Triad (C64)

09 May 2012, 08:22	#53
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 40 Posts: 841	Any news on this ? __________________ Best regards, Tom-Cat

22 April 2012, 23:54	#41
wilshy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Aylesbury Posts: 293	Cracking work.

23 April 2012, 13:53	#46
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 384	I think that it should be enough with this site no? http://dev-docs.atariforge.org/ Kamel

24 April 2012, 06:34	#50
copse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lala Land Posts: 139	Any chance you can document what you need to do, so that others who may wish to give it a shot have a good headstart?

24 April 2012, 06:37	#51
jimmy2x2x Beyond Mutton Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Exeter, UK Age: 41 Posts: 141	Would love it to be a 2012 Fairlight Amiga release! Great idea

09 May 2012, 10:17	#54
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,029	Yes its progressing, got a strange bug that slows the whole game down when a key press is detected which is slowing progress. __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

28 July 2012, 00:26	#56
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,518	Looking forward to hearing more about this conversion, technical details and getting to try it. Let us know how it's going pls. Thanks __________________ Thalion Webshrine

28 July 2012, 12:50	#57
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 47 Posts: 1,441	Nice work __________________ The thoughts of Chairman Methanoid at http://methanoid.blogspot.com

28 July 2012, 12:59	#58
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,029	Strange bugs slowing it down, might have to optimise my ST to Amiga screen conversion routine to stop it happening. __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

31 July 2012, 09:13	#59
Obliterator Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Western Australia Age: 37 Posts: 47	Just seen it running on the youtube link i cant wait to try it out awesome work there i must say

19 October 2012, 16:19	#60
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,518	I thought this might inspire you to have another play : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater __________________ Thalion Webshrine

11 December 2012, 22:55	#61
Marlon Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: England, York Age: 44 Posts: 275	AWESOME work! I would absolutely LOVE to see 'International Karate' converted. I adored the C64 original and was gutted this never made it to the Amiga. IK+ is great, of course, but I actually prefer the first game.

13 January 2013, 11:39	#62
Codetapper Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 2,465	Any progress on this Galahad?

14 January 2013, 08:16	#63
meynaf 68k wisdom Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon (France) Age: 40 Posts: 980	I think you already know the answer... If Galahad doesn't come in to say a thing here, you can bet he just silently dropped the project. __________________ He who insults the other in a discussion is the one who's wrong.

14 January 2013, 10:50	#66
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 40 Posts: 841	I would call that "basically working" - game is working, there was only a problem with controls, if I understood it correctly. __________________ Best regards, Tom-Cat

14 January 2013, 11:04	#67
spajdr Old fart Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ostrava/Czech Republic Age: 35 Posts: 309	Also it would be good in future to create a poll with list of atari games, that could be ported to amiga, give it like a week and game with most votes would be ported with no ETA given of course. __________________ Owned computers .: PMD-85 -> Sharp MZ821 -> Didaktik M -> Commodore Amiga 500 -> alot of PC Registered WHDLOAD user / FS-UAE Translator (czech)

14 January 2013, 11:12	#68
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	Like this one: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=63042 ? __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

15 January 2013, 01:12	#70
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39 Posts: 5,029	Pessimism aside (thanks Meynaf!) haven't got much free time at the moment, my line of business over New Year means i'm just too busy, but that will change come February time when the rush is over and then perhaps I can return to it, but its certainly not forgotten. __________________ Former member of: LSD, Scoopex, Razor 1911, Dual Crew Shining, Rednex, Fairlight. www.southwestscrap.co.uk

17 January 2013, 09:24	#74
fishyfish Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 445	Seriously guy, let it go. Youre coming across as a pompous git. Galahad's track record is enough to buy him some benefit of doubt. Your unnecessary aggression is doing neither yourself, or anyone actually interested in his work any favors. I know neither of you, so there's no "rooting" for a friend here. It's all based on what is on display in this thread.

17 January 2013, 10:14	#78
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,141	I'd like to add that I have been working on a game and have not done much since November (Christmas, New Year, work commitments and family commitments). I have been doing bits over the past few days, and if you gave me the grief you are giving Galahad I would probably not be inclined to finish the game anyway! We do this in our own time, and the games are free for the community, we ask for nothing in return apart from maybe a thanks and some honest feedback. If Galahad does not finish this then that is his prerogative, he doesn't have to answer to you or anyone else, it's not like you have financial interest here is it? Let it go please and show some courtesy!

17 January 2013, 10:37	#80
AnimaInCorpore Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Willich/Germany Posts: 12	While this thread went somewhat rude I would still like to know something more about the reasons why this port was a failure (if any). AFAIK galahad was searching for some IKBD documentation in the Atari-Forum and so I think he was indeed serious about doing the port. Cheers Sascha

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