AIAB (Amiga in a Box) project - Page 8

prowler · 11 October 2012, 01:58

Okay, AIAB-r10d-update.zip is now in The Zone, with content identical to the rar archive I uploaded yesterday.

Conversion to 7-zip is proving troublesome as well.

The r10d-update/WinUAE/Harddrives/Workbench/Classes/Images directory timestamp is changed on conversion, and it looks impossible to fix it manually, so I'm not going to persist with it.

Retrofan · 11 October 2012, 02:01

I haven't had a post in my thread... jeje. Do you know what browser does AIAB use?

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=66211

And the thing is that it's GOOD, and with key...

MadAngus · 11 October 2012, 05:37

@prowler
The download page re-structure is aimed at helping new users, easily identify which package to download, and as zip files are pretty much common currency on windows, that's why they where chosen.

That said, I'll need to convert 'aiab-r10.6-20071213.zip' and 'aiab-r10.6-afaos-20071225.zip' to LHA for the Amiga section at the top of the downloads page, seeing as LHA is the default for Amiga.

I only removed the rars because there were already zip files available.

I honestly don't see the point in FOL hosting 5 packages of the same content with different compression systems (lha, rar, zip, 7z, tar.gz). LHA and ZIP, fair enough, but otherwise it's a waste of web space, not to mention very confusing for new users.

And thank you for more lovely files.

@Retrofan
Voyager 3.

When you say key, did the internet pack come with a key file or did you acquire one elsewhere.

I won't be looking at the application addon packs until later next year.

In fact it might be better to concentrate any development of application addon packs on Bloodwych's ClassicWB and do some kind of modification, if needed to get them working on AIAB. It would be better to have once source of application pack than several different interpretations. Would need some thought though.

[Edit] The Download page archives have been updated with the new files

Retrofan · 11 October 2012, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAngus

@Retrofan
Voyager 3.

When you say key, did the internet pack come with a key file or did you acquire one elsewhere.

Ah, yes. It's in the file server. Don't know if they shared it.

Edit: It was. I don't find it now.

Basquemactee1 · 11 October 2012, 12:01

Is it necessary to download all the revision packs, or is there a complete WinUAE install that already has these added?

MadAngus · 11 October 2012, 12:30

@Basquemactee1
Just download 'aiab-r10.6-20071213.zip' from the top of the downloads page, that's all you need.

This file has all the updates the revision packs have.

@Retrofan
I take it your saying the key file was not in the AIAB package you used, but it was from some other file server.

Retrofan · 11 October 2012, 12:36

Yes that's right. Now I don't find a place to download it. At least I've got one for me

.

MadAngus · 11 October 2012, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retrofan

Yes that's right. Now I don't find a place to download it. At least I've got one for me

.

Cheers.

prowler · 11 October 2012, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

Okay, AIAB-r10d-update.zip is now in The Zone, with content identical to the rar archive I uploaded yesterday.

Conversion to 7-zip is proving troublesome as well.

The r10d-update/WinUAE/Harddrives/Workbench/Classes/Images directory timestamp is changed on conversion, and it looks impossible to fix it manually, so I'm not going to persist with it.

Following a brainwave this afternoon, I have discovered how to reverse changes that zip to 7-zip conversion makes to time and date stamps!

The bad news is that all time and date stamps in this archive have been changed in the same way and so have all those in the AIAB-r10d.7z full version archive I uploaded last week. Therefore I have removed it from The Zone.

@MadAngus: Since you've said that zip will be the preferred AIAB archive format for Windows, then I'll just concentrate on providing those from now on and save the new archive conversion knowledge I have gained for other projects.

MadAngus · 11 October 2012, 18:15

@prowler
Apologies if any of that did waste some of your time

, but I'm glad you did get some archiving techniques out of it.

Out of curiosity do you know of a good LHA archiver for windows (archiving and extraction). Just for those instances when I don't want to use the Amiga archivers.

prowler · 11 October 2012, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAngus

@prowler
Apologies if any of that did waste some of your time

, but I'm glad you did get some archiving techniques out of it.

There's no need to apologize. I never waste my time studying binary code in connection with archives or disk images. I always learn something to add to my notebook...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAngus

Out of curiosity do you know of a good LHA archiver for windows (archiving and extraction). Just for those instances when I don't want to use the Amiga archivers.

I don't know of any archiver for Windows designed for both archiving to and extraction from that format but, if there were one, any archives created with it would be found to be broken when imported to an Amiga environment for two reasons:

The Windows filesystem has no provision for storing all Amiga file attributes, and
Amiga can use some characters for filenames which are illegal when used in Windows.

Therefore, you should stick with Amiga versions of LHA to create archives for both Amiga and Linux platforms.

FOL · 11 October 2012, 22:01

I dont know, 7Zip does a good job with LHA archives, but I would agree best to stick to doing it in an Amiga enviroment.

MadAngus · 12 October 2012, 04:54

Cheers folk.

LHA's done in Amiga only it is then.

MadAngus · 12 October 2012, 11:38

Spot the difference.

Spent some time recreating the text graphics using the Britannic Bold font identified by SkydivinGirl on AmiBay, and messing with kerning, blending options and drop shadows, here is the result.

What do you think?

The left one is my attempt.

[Edit] FOL, prowler, All, what's your opinions on all the archived files being converted to LHA. i.e. extracted onto a WinUAE harddisk and re-compressed in LHA format.

prowler · 12 October 2012, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAngus

Spot the difference.

Spent some time recreating the text graphics using the Britannic Bold font identified by SkydivinGirl on AmiBay, and messing with kerning, blending options and drop shadows, here is the result.

What do you think?

The left one is my attempt.

That's not bad at all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAngus

[Edit] FOL, prowler, All, what's your opinions on all the archived files being converted to LHA. i.e. extracted onto a WinUAE harddisk and re-compressed in LHA format.

Yep, that should work. Some minor adjustments might be needed, but that's definitely the way to go at first.

Post one up when you're ready and we'll see. Just make sure you don't delete the zip archives by mistake.

FOL · 12 October 2012, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAngus

Spot the difference.

Spent some time recreating the text graphics using the Britannic Bold font identified by SkydivinGirl on AmiBay, and messing with kerning, blending options and drop shadows, here is the result.

What do you think?

The left one is my attempt.

[Edit] FOL, prowler, All, what's your opinions on all the archived files being converted to LHA. i.e. extracted onto a WinUAE harddisk and re-compressed in LHA format.

Looking good.

Basquemactee1 · 13 October 2012, 12:06

Tx MadAngus.....am doing it now and will have a wee look later on!!

Bloodwych · 13 October 2012, 12:15

Wow, you guys really ran with this didn't you?

Great work!!!!!

MadAngus · 13 October 2012, 13:26

Right folks for this week I need a new Humble Pie mp3! for the front page, so if you've created a music mod or a piece of game music submit it here.

Say about 1 - 3 mins, in mp3 format. Nothing rude.

Posted on UltimateAmiga, EAB and AmiBay. earliest submission in between these sites (only one), gets used.

I won't be archiving the Humble Pie mp3's, they'll be replaced each week, that is unless the community wants them archived.

The mp3 will be updated late Sunday night.

[Edit] So that the this site doesn't get overloaded with mp3's please submit your mp3 on the UltimateAmiga thread -> Here or provide a link to it.

Must be your own work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Wow, you guys really ran with this didn't you?

Great work!!!!!

Cheers, and we're only getting started.

Retrofan · 13 October 2012, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadAngus

Right folks for this week I need a new Humble Pie mp3! for the front page, so if you've created a music mod or a piece of game music submit it here.

Say about 1 - 3 mins, in mp3 format. Nothing rude.

Posted on UltimateAmiga, EAB and AmiBay. earliest submission in between these sites (only one), gets used.

I won't be archiving the Humble Pie mp3's, they'll be replaced each week, that is unless the community wants them archived.

The mp3 will be updated late Sunday night.

[Edit] So that the this site doesn't get overloaded with mp3's please submit your mp3 on the UltimateAmiga thread -> Here or provide a link to it.

Must be your own work.

Cheers, and we're only getting started.

That's a great idea !! And when you'll have enough you could put a player there to play them ramdomly, like a radio station.

11 October 2012, 05:37	#143
MadAngus AMOS Documentation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Age: 55 Posts: 131	@prowler The download page re-structure is aimed at helping new users, easily identify which package to download, and as zip files are pretty much common currency on windows, that's why they where chosen. That said, I'll need to convert 'aiab-r10.6-20071213.zip' and 'aiab-r10.6-afaos-20071225.zip' to LHA for the Amiga section at the top of the downloads page, seeing as LHA is the default for Amiga. I only removed the rars because there were already zip files available. I honestly don't see the point in FOL hosting 5 packages of the same content with different compression systems (lha, rar, zip, 7z, tar.gz). LHA and ZIP, fair enough, but otherwise it's a waste of web space, not to mention very confusing for new users. And thank you for more lovely files. @Retrofan Voyager 3. When you say key, did the internet pack come with a key file or did you acquire one elsewhere. I won't be looking at the application addon packs until later next year. In fact it might be better to concentrate any development of application addon packs on Bloodwych's ClassicWB and do some kind of modification, if needed to get them working on AIAB. It would be better to have once source of application pack than several different interpretations. Would need some thought though. [Edit] The Download page archives have been updated with the new files Last edited by MadAngus; 11 October 2012 at 06:57.

12 October 2012, 11:38	#154
MadAngus AMOS Documentation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Age: 55 Posts: 131	Spot the difference. Spent some time recreating the text graphics using the Britannic Bold font identified by SkydivinGirl on AmiBay, and messing with kerning, blending options and drop shadows, here is the result. What do you think? The left one is my attempt. [Edit] FOL, prowler, All, what's your opinions on all the archived files being converted to LHA. i.e. extracted onto a WinUAE harddisk and re-compressed in LHA format. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by MadAngus; 12 October 2012 at 18:09.

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11 October 2012, 01:58	#141
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Okay, AIAB-r10d-update.zip is now in The Zone, with content identical to the rar archive I uploaded yesterday. Conversion to 7-zip is proving troublesome as well. The r10d-update/WinUAE/Harddrives/Workbench/Classes/Images directory timestamp is changed on conversion, and it looks impossible to fix it manually, so I'm not going to persist with it.

11 October 2012, 02:01	#142
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	I haven't had a post in my thread... jeje. Do you know what browser does AIAB use? http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=66211 And the thing is that it's GOOD, and with key...

11 October 2012, 12:01	#145
Basquemactee1 Old Fart New WinUAE user Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Sebastian, Spain Age: 58 Posts: 176	Is it necessary to download all the revision packs, or is there a complete WinUAE install that already has these added?

11 October 2012, 12:30	#146
MadAngus AMOS Documentation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Age: 55 Posts: 131	@Basquemactee1 Just download 'aiab-r10.6-20071213.zip' from the top of the downloads page, that's all you need. This file has all the updates the revision packs have. @Retrofan I take it your saying the key file was not in the AIAB package you used, but it was from some other file server.

11 October 2012, 12:36	#147
Retrofan Ruler of the Universe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lanzarote/Spain Posts: 6,185	Yes that's right. Now I don't find a place to download it. At least I've got one for me .

11 October 2012, 18:15	#150
MadAngus AMOS Documentation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Age: 55 Posts: 131	@prowler Apologies if any of that did waste some of your time , but I'm glad you did get some archiving techniques out of it. Out of curiosity do you know of a good LHA archiver for windows (archiving and extraction). Just for those instances when I don't want to use the Amiga archivers.

11 October 2012, 22:01	#152
FOL PSPUAE DEV Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales / UK Age: 45 Posts: 5,999	I dont know, 7Zip does a good job with LHA archives, but I would agree best to stick to doing it in an Amiga enviroment.

12 October 2012, 04:54	#153
MadAngus AMOS Documentation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Scotland Age: 55 Posts: 131	Cheers folk. LHA's done in Amiga only it is then.

13 October 2012, 12:06	#157
Basquemactee1 Old Fart New WinUAE user Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Sebastian, Spain Age: 58 Posts: 176	Tx MadAngus.....am doing it now and will have a wee look later on!!

13 October 2012, 12:15	#158
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Wow, you guys really ran with this didn't you? Great work!!!!!

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