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Old 17 January 2012, 14:33   #1
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Amiga Development Kit Disks from Lane Cove Australia

Hello. I am new to these forums, but I wanted to join because I have something a little rare I believe.

My father, was an Amiga developer for Commodore. He got this development kit from them (Garry Mason of Lane Cove Sydney Australia), and it has been packed ever since.

I would love to rip them so I can back them up to a secure data source, but my 5.25" floppy drive he and his friend made is not working. My father said, that the drive was a project him and his friend were working on, to sell to commodore. Commodore were not interested in a 5.25" drive. However, a few months later, they launched there own onto the market (stole his idea basically).

I get 1.25 volts out of the DB-23 cable, and not 12 volts. I will have to figure this one out later. The drive however, was used on an Amiga 1000. I am trying on a 500.

Anyway, here is a photo of the dev kit from Commodore. The date on the kit, states 'December 1985'. I dont think the four, five and a quarter inch diskettes would have even retained there data up till now. Lets hope they do, and Natasha is a good quality company.



Please let me know if you have ever seen this kit before.



Thanks.
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Old 17 January 2012, 15:17   #2
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Could these be Sage IV disks?

Don't be surprised if the Amiga can't read them, it clearly says cross development on them, so they are most likely for a different brand of computer.
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Old 17 January 2012, 15:32   #3
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Could these be Sage IV disks?

Don't be surprised if the Amiga can't read them, it clearly says cross development on them, so they are most likely for a different brand of computer.
I have no idea.

But I am certain they are for the Amiga
 
Old 17 January 2012, 16:06   #4
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Hi Haunted360
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My father, was an Amiga developer for Commodore. He got this development kit from them (Garry Mason of Lane Cove Sydney Australia), and it has been packed ever since.
I remember the old Commodore factory at 67 Mars rd, that's going back a few years now!

Chances are the disks are for a flavour of SunOS1.x (BSD4.1).
The original Amiga Macro Assembler manual (v1.1?) details the use of the cross assembler environment. You can probably find a link to the manual on here somewhere.

This page (in one of the comments):
http://www.pagetable.com/?p=34
says:
"Software on 5.25″ Disks :
- Lattice C cross libraries (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Lattice C Cross Development Headers (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Lattice C cross Compiler (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Cross Assembler (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Assembler Cross Development Headers (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- A letter from David Street (Manager of Technical Support and Software Development) to the Developers.
- I have to read the cross dev manual to see on which systems the 5.25″ disks are made to run, but it’s possibly for sun…"

http://www.pagetable.com/?p=193
have some rather interesting info on early "Tripos"/"AmigaDOS" which you may find interesting as well.

Cheers,
Red

P.S. I still live in Lane Cove... ironically right next door to the "SAS institute" (of Lattice/SAS compiler fame).

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Old 17 January 2012, 16:55   #5
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"Software on 5.25″ Disks :
- Lattice C cross libraries (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Lattice C Cross Development Headers (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Lattice C cross Compiler (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Cross Assembler (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- Assembler Cross Development Headers (v1.1 26 Dec 1985)
- A letter from David Street (Manager of Technical Support and Software Development) to the Developers.
I got all of those. Even the papers...

Thank you
 
Old 18 January 2012, 09:57   #6
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>My father said, that the drive was a project him and his friend were working on, to sell to commodore. Commodore were not interested in a 5.25" drive. However, a few months later, they launched there own onto the market (stole his idea basically).

Really, you think the idea never occurred to them independently!? I seem to recall reading at the time of the launch of the Amiga 1000 that there would be 5.25" drives available from Commodore. In fact the Lorraine prototype used a 5.25" drive. So it's not like the idea never occurred to them.

>I dont think the four, five and a quarter inch diskettes would have even retained there data up till now.

Most likely the data is still recoverable. I have recently dumped digital data from 1970s cassettes.

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Old 18 January 2012, 19:05   #7
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Another possibility is that the disks might for for PC/MS-DOS.

Commodore did produce a cross development system which used the MS-DOS Lattice C compiler. I have a set of those disks which I think I dumped a few years ago. If they're not already available I could upload the files somewhere.

If I remember correctly, the labels on my disks were different to those on yours, printed with a dot-matrix printer. I'll try to find them tomorrow and take some pics.
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Edit: I've uploaded an archive of four of the five disks to The Zone if anyone is interested!

I found one set of four cross development disks. As far as I can remember, these were probably sold/supplied by Commodore-Amiga as Amiga C V1.0. I bought them from a US eBay seller a few year ago. The attached picture shows the disks. I might not have backed up/imaged them yet, or at least couldn't find the backups.

I have another set of five 360KB 5.25" disks, for the Amiga V 1.0 cross development system, which I bought from a German eBay seller several years ago. I don't have a pic of those disks, but they are Commodore branded in Commodore paper envelopes. Each disk has the Commodore factory label, over which is a larger label with dot-matrix-printed text.

The labels read as follows:
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        AMIGA V 1.0
     LATTICE 'C' CROSS
         COMPILER

(C)1985 COMMODORE-AMIGA INC
  ALLE RECHTE VORBEHALTEN
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        AMIGA V 1.0
     LATTICE 'C' CROSS
    DEVELOPMENT HEADERS

(C)1985 COMMODORE-AMIGA INC
  ALLE RECHTE VORBEHALTEN
---
        AMIGA V 1.0
     LATTICE 'C' CROSS
         LIBRARIES

(C)1985 COMMODORE-AMIGA INC
  ALLE RECHTE VORBEHALTEN
---
        AMIGA V 1.0
      CROSS ASSEMBLER

(C)1985 COMMODORE-AMIGA INC
  ALLE RECHTE VORBEHALTEN
---
        AMIGA V 1.0
      ASSEMBLER CROSS
    DEVELOPMENT HEADERS

(C)1985 COMMODORE-AMIGA INC
  ALLE RECHTE VORBEHALTEN
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