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Old 22 July 2011, 15:58   #1
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Zip packer corrupting files ?

When I did the whd update pack I got an error I never have had before.
The game Embryo clearly doesn't like to be zipped.

If I lha it it works as shown here:


But if I zip it, the same game folder I lha'ed, and extract it this happens:


Does anybody have an idea what causes the files to corrupt when zipped up ?

This is using Zip 2.3/UnZip 5.50 included in ClassicWB v26.
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Old 22 July 2011, 16:13   #2
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Maybe it change filename lower case -> upper case or upper case -> lower case. It should not be a problem but maybe it is.
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Old 22 July 2011, 16:17   #3
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Maybe, but this is the only game this happens to, all the other whd games don't have this problem.
At least not that I know of.
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Old 22 July 2011, 16:24   #4
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Maybe some filename have some special character which is not recognized by packer. It can change it to different character or remove it. Most games don't verify own files, but maybe Embryo do and it's rare case as you described.
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Old 22 July 2011, 16:42   #5
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I have uploaded the lha to the zone if somebody feels like investigating further.
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Old 22 July 2011, 16:56   #6
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Very strange - but you do rarely find exceptions like this from time to time with Amiga archivers.

Can you use a file comparison tool to actually confirm the files have changed after zipping -> unzipping? Something like FreeFileSync will do it (excellent program by the way) in Windows:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/freefilesync/

Or any other of the multiple file comparison tools. Can't think of Amiga ones, but in Windows Hashtab is another where you can see if the file has changed at all by comparing the hash values. Or MD5Check.

Also, try to using MiraWizArc (to Zip and Unzip) or Voodoo-X (to Unzip only) the file, it uses different versions to Unzip, and see if it makes a difference.
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Old 22 July 2011, 20:01   #7
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I tried extracting the zip with Voodoo-X with the same result as with UnZip 5.50.

Also using MiraWizARC to create and extract the zip breaks the game.

And I can't compare the files with FreeFileSync because if I extract the game to a non Amiga formatted partition in WinUAE the files also gets corrupted.
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Old 22 July 2011, 21:50   #8
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There might be a file compare utility on the Amiga then, something must be different between the files. I don't think the file attributes should affect things, although Amiga Zip should preserve all those fine too, or it's a special character in the name as mentioned above.

Oh well, out of ideas. Just stick it in a lha archive, then zip it and be done! - inlcuding a note why it's an archive in an archive.

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Old 22 July 2011, 22:18   #9
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Yup, it's lha or nothing.
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Would be probably an easy fix, as Pygore did for Five-A-Side Soccer (#19+)

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ht=five-a-side
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Old 22 July 2011, 22:58   #11
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So, it might be a filecomment problem. Thanks for the pointer Retro-Nerd.
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Old 22 July 2011, 23:08   #12
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Aha, I think I'll stick to lha in the future and completely ditch zip.
Bad news for Gamebase Amiga users I know.

Thanks for clearing this up Retro.

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Five-A-Side soccer is broken too, I had to check after reading the other post.
I'll redo the install and lha it.

[edit2]
Not zip related problem but latest WHDLoad 17.0 beta issue.

I get a "Slave is illegal" when using 17.0.5110

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I think KG had issues with some rare corrupt archives using Amiga specific archivers in the past too - one of the reasons for swapping to ZIP as it had the least problems. It may have been down to buggy later versions (than 1.38) of LHA executables however at the time. I'd ask him just to be clear if you are swapping to LHA. In my opinion if it's only an odd file now and again, very rare as it seems to be, it's better to stick to the advantages of ZIP and LHA that one problamatic file.

AmigaZip does support Filecomments I think, but you need to specify an extra option. Problem is, this option needs specifying on the Zip AND Unzip, which most people won't use. I could add it to the ClassicWB packs as standard, but it will still cause issues in certain situations. This is from the help file included in the ClassicWB packs (Help menu->Other->Shell or SYS:Locale\Help\Shell):

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Filenotes
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Amiga filenotes are not normally stored in the zip archive. But the zip
format supports storing a one-line comment with each file, and Zip has
an option "-N" which causes any Amiga files with attached filenotes to
be stored with their filenote in this comment field. If "-N" is used
with the -c option, Zip will prompt for you to enter a comment line for
each file that does not have a filenote. The equivalent "-N" option of
UnZip 5.2 or newer will cause such comments to be attached to the expanded
files as filenotes. If desired the option "-N" can be specified in the
environment variable ZIPOPT so that filenotes are always stored.

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Old 23 July 2011, 12:17   #14
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There's certainly no reason to make things more complicated than they need to be.
I can live with the occasional lha file now and then.
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