Worst Amiga model ever

[Skope]

Snatched this poll from over at Amibay, thought it was a fun initiative by mjnurney.

So which is your least favourite Amiga model, and why?

Like I said over there I have trouble choosing between A500+ and A600, but atleast the 500+ has a full set of keys so the 600 it is for me.

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Skope

Like I said over there I have trouble choosing between A500+ and A600, but atleast the 500+ has a full set of keys so the 600 it is for me.

Second that evaluation

[FOL]

Originally Posted by Skope

Snatched this poll from over at Amibay, thought it was a fun initiative by mjnurney.

So which is your least favourite Amiga model, and why?

Like I said over there I have trouble choosing between A500+ and A600, but atleast the 500+ has a full set of keys so the 600 it is for me.

Have to say none, I like every single Amiga model.

Theres no "none" option, .

[Gordon]

Amiga CDTV. Lovely looking but no HD controller on stock machine puts it bottom of the ladder.

[cosmicfrog]

cant vote over there, still can`t vote here

wheres the broken amiga option ???

[Skope]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

cant vote over there, still can`t vote here

wheres the broken amiga option ???

Assuming they're all working ofcourse

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Second that evaluation

I'm not surprised. We usually think the same way regarding these things

[Leffmann]

I'm gonna go with the A1000 and its 256K RAM and Kickstart 1.2.

Runner up will be the A600 due poor expandability, can't even put some fastmem in it, though I like its case size and design more than any other Amiga. I wish the A1200 looked like that.

[Lord Aga]

I think you can put fast ram in A600 via PCMCIA slot.
Anyways... I like them all, so I can't vote

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Leffmann

I'm gonna go with the A1000 and its 256K RAM and Kickstart 1.2.

Imo they were almost there with the A1000 and perfected it with the A500. But yeah, the 1000 seem a bit awkward to use indeed. There's KS1.3 for it though.

Originally Posted by Leffmann

Runner up will be the A600 due poor expandability, can't even put some fastmem in it, though I like its case size and design more than any other Amiga. I wish the A1200 looked like that.

I may interest you in the following thread then: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=570

Sooo cool hack!

[Leffmann]

I've always thought the PCMCIA shared the same bus as the chipmem, and that any RAM there would effectively turn into slowmem.

Originally Posted by Skope

Imo they were almost there with the A1000 and perfected it with the A500. But yeah, the 1000 seem a bit awkward to use indeed. There's KS1.3 for it though.

I may interest you in the following thread then: http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?t=570

Sooo cool hack!

Yeah I've seen that one crazy mod job.

[Skope]

The A600 is getting the least amount of lovin' so far. Interresting.

[FOL]

Still waiting for the "none" option to be added to the poll.
*Looks around for TCD*

[TCD]

... hmm?
Oh, added just for you FOL

[LuMan]

Heh, clicked on the 'none' option.

WRT the A600; while I can see the annoyance of not having a numpad, I still love the machine for its compactness. I've labelled my floppy collection accordingly, so I know which will work in what machine and can flit between A500, A600 or A1200 depending on what mood I'm in.

It's an interesting poll, though

[mikele]

I can see a lot of A600 haters without a cause... I would choose cute little A600 over those outdated, large, ugly models (like A500/2000/2500) anytime, not just for esthetic reasons. It's easy to hook up to internet, install CF disk, optical drives etc. Try that on those "glorious" oldies or CDTV, it won't be hassle free as you will need dedicated pieces of hardware. Besides A600 was fun to carry, could fit in small backpack.
AFAIR there were some external cases for A600 which allowed you to use DIN keyboard.

[AmigaFriend]

There are no worst Amiga models. They are all beige and awesome! They all have custom chips, noisy floppy drives and all play State Of The Art. So... next poll please!

[Pyromania]

I voted 500+ because the model confused people with its game incompatibilities and hurt Amiga sales. Many voted A600 but that machine was small and cute. It should have kept its original name A300 and cost 100 or 200 pounds. Then it would have sold a ton!

[duga]

At release: A600 (shouldn't have been released at all, instead they should have released the A1200 with 1 MB chip ram option).

Today, A600 is nice as it's the smallest model and quite easy to expand.

[deicidal]

I also voted a600, though it was a tough call between it and the 500+.

[TCD]

Welcome to the club Andy

[cosmicfrog]

Perfection may be over rated but at least I get to vote here

[Mr Creosote]

CD32, that was cheap, ugly shit. Of the usable ones, I'd go with the 500+: Completely useless 'upgrade'.

[Paul_s]

As I said over on Amibay - CD32.

Good To Bad list - 3000, 2000, 500, 1000, CDTV, 1200, 600, 4000, CD32.

[desiv]

The thought that anyone could think that about the A1000???
There's no hope for society... It's just a sign of the decay of civilization....

..
OK, to be fair, maybe I'm overreacting...
It is just an opinion about an aging computer system...

The first Amiga... Jay's computer..

No.. we're doomed..

;-)

desiv

[StingRay]

A600, hands-down. For me that is not even an Amiga.

[Dreedo]

How dare you dis my A600! It was my first (well nearly) Amiga, and its worked perfect since!

My A500+ on the other hand had a leaking battery and a broken floppy drive...

If anything isn't an Amiga it's a CD32 or a CDTV. :P

[Gordon]

Originally Posted by StingRay

A600, hands-down. For me that is not even an Amiga.

Becuase of the look? or becuase you blame it for being the start of the commodore downfall?

[Photon]

Part of C='s troubles was that they made too many models instead of [developing and] releasing their new tech. This poll makes that abundantly clear. The silly little Odd Numbers get my vote, therefore.

[Dreedo]

True, in the 10 years or so Amiga was active, it didn't really upgrade much, the AGA was probably the biggest change.

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by Dreedo

How dare you dis my A600!

Because it looks like a toy. Amiga w/o numeric keypad = bah! :P

Originally Posted by Gordon

Becuase of the look? or becuase you blame it for being the start of the commodore downfall?

See above. C='s downfall started long before the A600 was released, so no, that's not the reason.

[Galahad/FLT]

I picked the A500+, and that was inspite of the A600's shortcomings.

The A600 is actually one machine I wouldn't mind underneath the TV in the lounge, next to the PS3. Small and compact.

The A500+ irritated me quite an enourmous amount. Other than the Kickstart 2 and 1 meg of chip ram and fat agnus, Amiga owners deserved better than that, they deserved a REAL update, one that could and should have helped re-establish the Amiga a the #1 machine again.

It was a marketing gimmick and a way for Commodore to get people to adopt their software so it would work on the A600.

So for that reason, I despise the A500+ because it wasn't the machine we needed, there was no compelling reason to own it.

[Jope]

Tied between the A2000 and the CDTV. :-)

[spyros_s]

they are all perfect for me...(1200 is the best of course...)

[Skope]

Speaking of C= and updated machinery, wonder why they never stepped up their game on the sound capabilities while they where updating the graphics. AGA machines sound should atleast have matched the Falcons.

[Leffmann]

The Amiga should've had no less than 8 channels and free stereo panning right from the start IMO.

I don't know much about sound and electronics, but the above can't be that costly to implement. It's a mystery why it was never upgraded.

[AmigaFriend]

Originally Posted by Leffmann

The Amiga should've had no less than 8 channels and free stereo panning right from the start IMO.

I don't know much about sound and electronics, but the above can't be that costly to implement. It's a mystery why it was never upgraded.

In 1984 would be quite costly to develop and manufacture such a thing. But by 1991 should have been the standard. Even Dave Haynie had already 8 channel audio in his designs I think in the A3000+ with a full Motorola DSP, but has anything else C= killed it.

[desiv]

Originally Posted by Leffmann

The Amiga should've had no less than 8 channels and free stereo panning right from the start IMO.

I was going to say "That much in 1985? Preposterous!!".
But I remembered the IIGS...
It used the esonique sound chip in 1986, and it was the same chip used in the mirage synth in 1985..

AND.... one of the designers of that chip????

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Robert "Bob" Yannes (designer of the MOS Technology SID chip for the Commodore 64 home computer)

So, yeah, probably should have been better..
But to be fair, the Amiga sound was pretty great! :-)

desiv
p.s. And from the IIGS Wikipage - sound section:
The chip allowed for 32 separate channels of sound, though most software paired them into 16 stereo voices!!

[abraXXious]

Not sure why everyone hates the A500+ so much. I guess it was a disappointment at the time, but to me it is an improved (though only slightly) a500.

I personally dislike the a500 and can see no reason to own one (although I have several ). Why?

Well I guess I feel that all the Amiga models have something to offer, but the a500 has nothing that is not present in other models which also have other benefits.

For instance, even though when it was released I hated the a600 (as it sent the message that Amigas were cheap, low powered gaming machines) I now think it has its merits. Now I find the a600 is small and compact, has an internal IDE interface, a minimum of KS 2 as default, pcm cia slot for easy transfer of files form pc to miggy, and ecs chipset. The Agnus can also support 2mb chip out of the box.

The a1200 was also fairly compact, had built in ide, aga chipset, pcmcia, minimum of KS 3, 2mb chip etc etc.

The a2000 was built like a tank, has heaps of zorro slots (zorro 2 is fine with graphics cards if you keep the resolution under 1024x768), a nice keyboard and is very expandible internally (I HATE external bolt on expansions).

The a3000 had a lovely case, zorro 3, minimum of 16mhz 030 (although most had a 25mhz 030), built in scan doubler, ecs built in scsi and is quite expandible (although 5.25" devices have to be external) and supports 2mb chip ram.

The a4000 had zorro 3 slots, aga, minimum of ks 3, 2mb chip, minimum of 030/25, 4 onboard simm sockets for 16 mb fast ram, built in ide interface etc.

The CDTV looks funky and is a novelty.

The CD32 is a console version of the A1200 and can take a keyboard and mouse out of the box. It also has hardware C2p.... but I have never found a single game that uses the Akiko!

The A1000 has a nice case design, has the prestige of being the original and has collecting value.

But the a500 has no ecs as standard, only ks 1.x, no zorro slots, all expansions have to be external (and untidy) and it is already a large desk covering wedge of beige. It has no ide or scsi as standard, no pcm cia... it does not even have the nice case design or collectability of the a1000.

Just my opinion, but back in the day I would have said the a600 was the worst Amiga ever, now I firmly believe the a500 is.

[abraXXious]

Originally Posted by Jope

Tied between the A2000 and the CDTV. :-)

Seriously? I can understand the CDTV (overpriced, not much original software, a pig to upgrade etc)... but the a2000? That was THE flagship bigbox Amiga from 86 to 90.

[rare_j]

Voted for cd32. Looked rubbish, tired and irrelevent from day 1.
Dont like to put the boot into any amiga... But this was Horrible!
Puts me in mind of the amstrad gx4000.