Amiga Premium and Cloanto

[amiga_Forever]

Hi all..

Has anyone here had troubles with Cloanto emails? or lack of support ?

I've emailed them three or four times regarding my order of AF (premium) 2011 + C64, its been 4 weeks and have had no reply from them and no package(s) in the mail, even though its comes of my Credit card

[prowler]

Hi AF,

Is this the first time you have ordered from Cloanto?

I have bought from them on several occasions and each time a physical package (i.e. CD/DVD as distinct from a download) was involved, a long wait ensued before its arrival. The problem is always worse immediately following a new release. However, the package has always arrived eventually.

Emails suffer similarly, but if it turns out that you have had to wait for an extended period of time for delivery you may well find that a free gift has been enclosed for you when it arrives.

[gulliver]

And also, you need to understand that the italian Custom´s is extremely burocratic and slow.

As an example, see on ebay how many international sellers refuse to ship to Italy.

[antonvaltaz]

I've heard of a few occasions where people have had to wait, but as Prowler says, they often try to compensate if they have caused real inconvenience.

You might want to try them at their Facebook page too: http://www.facebook.com/AmigaForever - they seem to respond there too.

[amiga_Forever]

ok thanks..

I just hope i get it before xmas , as my birthdays just gone.

Might just use the downloaded version for now.

[kipper2k]

Originally Posted by gulliver

And also, you need to understand that the italian Custom´s is extremely burocratic and slow.

As an example, see on ebay how many international sellers refuse to ship to Italy.

I thought people refuse to ship there due to massive theft of mail

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by kipper2k

I thought people refuse to ship there due to massive theft of mail

Yes, indeed that is another valid reason.

I have a friend in Italy, and whenever we send things back and forth, we get a delay of about two months on the italian side (confirmed being the italian side the problematic, using tracked mail). And yes, we had one or two packages "lost"

[mcb]

Originally Posted by amiga_Forever

I've emailed them three or four times

Did you receive the reply a couple of days ago? I wasn't sure it was you.

It explains what happened and what we are doing to try solve the problem at the root.

Mike

I also recently ordered Amiga Forever Premium + and had I known it could take 2 months or more to get the product, I might have looked at other options.

They really should warn consumers about the potential delay in shipping. My question is, why do they even use this company to ship if they have such a terrible track record?

Btw sorry hello to all, old time amiga fan new amiga forever user!

[mcb]

Originally Posted by Aria

My question is, why do they even use this company to ship if they have such a terrible track record?

First of all, apologies for the delay you described.

It's probably 3 or 4 years now that we've been considering and reconsidering options for fulfillment. Some service providers only ship by courier, and that would be too expensive, often costing more than the product ordered. Other providers need some minimum quantities, and the volumes we have are too small for them. Some providers ship by air mail, but then add $xx on top of that, so it ends up almost as expensive as an international courier. In other scenarios there are international billing and customs complications.

Overwhelmingly, shipments are delivered fine, and even when you order the physical package you get an instant download with the installer, so there are no delays for that. But we too suffer when hearing stories such as these. It's not what I would want the customer experience to be, and I am grateful for reports like these.

Delays can happen for many reasons, not only on the service, postal or customs side. Occasionally a payment isn't completed or notified properly, yet it looked like the order was complete on the e-commerce site. So we keep providing feedback to the e-commerce provider too. When we hear of a delay we ship directly, also on Saturdays. If you look at the postage, it is usually subsidized (more expensive than what was billed). But still, it would be done best by a company specializing in that, and shipping real time at good rates.

A number of new providers have emerged recently, with on-demand manufacturing and warehouses in the US, Europe and Asia. We started setting up the products with one of them last year, and it's being tested, so I hope that this will result in some great changes soon. Any alternatives you would like to recommend, feel free to drop a message!

Thanks,

Mike

[dcms61]

I received my package in five to six weeks after I ordered it and I live in the USA on the East coast.

[dirkies]

I once ordered with Cloanto (to Luxembourg), never had an issue, only took 2 weeks or so.