English Amiga Board


Go Back   English Amiga Board > Main > Amiga scene

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 18 February 2014, 02:03   #61
Reters
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Poland
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd View Post
Now all this nonsense talk should stop. Thanks for the dumped game. Oscar CD32 (if the dump is error free) preserved.
No problem
Reters is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:11   #62
MethodGit
Junior Member
MethodGit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Streets
Age: 33
Posts: 2,723
Hate to rain on this parade here, but a CloneCD image just isn't a CloneCD image without the associated subchannel (.SUB) file as well. In fact, the more recent versions of Daemon Tools won't even mount the image without it.

BTW, the folks at Redump.org may be interested in Oscar as well. Their dumping methods are notably different, but should assure 1:1 quality.
MethodGit is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:16   #63
Reters
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Poland
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by MethodGit View Post
Hate to rain on this parade here, but a CloneCD image just isn't a CloneCD image without the associated subchannel (.SUB) file as well. In fact, the more recent versions of Daemon Tools won't even mount the image without it.

BTW, the folks at Redump.org may be interested in Oscar as well. Their dumping methods are notably different, but should assure 1:1 quality.
MethoGit , I'm sorry but you just learn English. I can add a .SUB file?
Reters is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:18   #64
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion

Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 45
Posts: 10,745
1. sub channels are completely unimportant for CD32 games. There was no protection in CD32 games.

2. Magic Iso mounts the dumped Clone CD image perfectly.

3. Yes, a Bin/Cue or ISO+WAV would be nice. Latter for the "pefectionists".
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:21   #65
Reters
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Poland
Posts: 32
.SUB


This little scattered but I think you will make use of it
Reters is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:23   #66
MethodGit
Junior Member
MethodGit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Streets
Age: 33
Posts: 2,723
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd View Post
1. sub channels are completely unimportant for CD32 games. There was no protection in CD32 games.
But proper CD archivists keep all associated CloneCD dump files regardless. It's not about copy-protection, it's about ensuring that anyone can use it with any program of their choice.

Quote:
2. Magic Iso mounts the dump Clone CD perfectly.
And not everyone uses MagicISO as their virtual drive.

Quote:
3. Yes, a Bin/Cue or ISO+WAV would be nice. Latter for the "pefectionists".
IMGBurn is the best at making an instant, simple BIN/CUE dump. But the Redump way of doing things is dumping each track into seperate BIN files.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reters View Post
MethoGit , I'm sorry but you just learn English. I can add a .SUB file?
I'm assuming you used the CloneCD program to dump the disc, right? It always creates a .SUB file alongside the .CCD and .IMG files (and optionally .CUE as well if you ticked the cuesheet option).
MethodGit is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:27   #67
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion

Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 45
Posts: 10,745
Well, then a Bin/cue dump. It's good enough for all mounting and burning tools since it the most spreaded/supported image format. Though i don't mind an ISO+WAV rip with EAC for the WAV tracks. Just tested the CD image in WinUAE and it seems to work perfectly fine.
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:27   #68
Reters
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Poland
Posts: 32
Yes. CloneCD. I added all the files which I have set(IMG,SUB,CCD)
Reters is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 02:37   #69
Retro-Nerd
Missile Command Champion

Retro-Nerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Age: 45
Posts: 10,745
Quote:
But proper CD archivists keep all associated CloneCD dump files regardless. It's not about copy-protection, it's about ensuring that anyone can use it with any program of their choice.
Well in cases of Amiga emulators there is no need to use external tools. FS-UAE and WinUAE can start CD images directly. And this work without .sub channels too. It's quite pointless for Amiga CD32 games. You can also mount the Clone CD image and create a new Bin/CUE with ImgBurn.

Quote:
But the Redump way of doing things is dumping each track into seperate BIN files.
I always wondered why. There is no benefit over an ISO+WAV rip or a standard Bin/Cue.

Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 18 February 2014 at 03:01.
Retro-Nerd is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 12:01   #70
Reters
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Poland
Posts: 32
For information only,
Persons interested in purchasing the game, please proposal to the address:
gordi.klank@op.pl
Reters is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 12:36   #71
Reters
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Poland
Posts: 32
Added at the request of the last file:

.cue
Reters is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 23:45   #72
brolly
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Lost
Posts: 418
Thank you for preserving this game Reters, a lot of us here highly appreciate it as the game has been eluding us all since ages.

A cloneCD image is more than fine, actually unless the person dumping the CD owns an old plextor with support for the D8 read command (which I don't think is the case) the Redump method is far more prone to having errors than a cloneCD dump due to the fact that you'll have to do a bunch of manual calculations to determine the combined offset so it's easy to make a mistake in the process if you never did it before. Besides being much more complex of course.
brolly is offline  
Old 18 February 2014, 23:53   #73
Reters
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Poland
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by brolly View Post
Thank you for preserving this game Reters, a lot of us here highly appreciate it as the game has been eluding us all since ages.
No problem
Reters is offline  
Old 19 February 2014, 08:18   #74
brolly
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Lost
Posts: 418
Besides Oscar and Diggers are there any other known CD32 games that were only released in the USA?
brolly is offline  
Old 19 February 2014, 12:58   #75
sokolovic
Registered User

sokolovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Marseille / France
Posts: 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by brolly View Post
Besides Oscar and Diggers are there any other known CD32 games that were only released in the USA?
http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?..._ref_country=9

Seems that there isn't any CD32 games that was only released in the USA.
sokolovic is offline  
Old 19 February 2014, 13:33   #76
brolly
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Lost
Posts: 418
Well then that's wrong, Oscar and Diggers (the standalone releases) were never released in Europe.
Might be the case of the publisher having the rights to publish them worldwide, but it never happened at least for Oscar I'm sure about it.
brolly is offline  
Old 19 February 2014, 14:11   #77
lilalurl
T32
lilalurl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: France
Age: 38
Posts: 2,832
Send a message via ICQ to lilalurl
Quote:
Originally Posted by brolly View Post
Well then that's wrong, Oscar and Diggers (the standalone releases) were never released in Europe.
Are you really sure? The back box we have on HOL for Oscar:
http://hol.abime.net/2325/boxscan

is in English, German, French and Italian. That is the kind of thing which hints towards a European release.


Feel free to provide any info. that you would have. There can be some mistakes in HOL, so if you have anything relevant and verifiable it will be welcome.
lilalurl is offline  
Old 19 February 2014, 15:02   #78
turrican3
Moon 1969 = amiga 1985

turrican3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: belgium
Age: 41
Posts: 3,153
whizz cd32, do we have the iso now ?
because i have an image of this game on my hard disk.
If you need i could upload it tonight.
turrican3 is offline  
Old 19 February 2014, 16:31   #79
MethodGit
Junior Member
MethodGit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: The Streets
Age: 33
Posts: 2,723
Quote:
Originally Posted by brolly View Post
Besides Oscar and Diggers are there any other known CD32 games that were only released in the USA?
How can there be any U.S. games when the hardware itself was never released in the U.S.?
MethodGit is offline  
Old 19 February 2014, 16:43   #80
Sandro
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: spain
Posts: 897
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reters View Post
Added at the request of the last file:

.cue
but where is the full game to download?
Sandro is offline  
AdSense AdSense  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Amiga CD32 - WHizz jjEE Amiga scene 1 28 October 2012 04:58
A600 or CD32 For Trap Door Card To Put In A1200 for more ram spannernick Swapshop 6 21 May 2012 17:10
Is there a way to put amiga games onto the cd32? raditz669 New to Emulation or Amiga scene 20 12 June 2009 09:46
Able to buy a CD32..able to put in a tower? RabidRabbit Amiga scene 9 31 March 2009 01:11
Put a scart in your CD32 Dexther Hardware pics 32 12 February 2009 15:26

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:49.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Page generated in 0.46491 seconds with 12 queries