Games supporting 2 (ie. independent) fire buttons?

SunChild · 01 February 2011, 00:56

(Note: thought a bit about posting this into /support.games/ at first, but since this is not exactly about asking help to fix/play a game, + involves some recollection (and therefore nostalgia, as with all things Amiga ^^), well I hope I made the right choice in posting here after all)

[DISCLAIMER]
To make things clear after reading the latest entries (page 4/5 of the thread): the point intended here is to list as _exhaustively_ as possible! ie. NOT limiting to any specific 2 (or MORE!!?) buttons support, nor excluding anything like eg. games natively not supporting more than one button (late/unofficial added support like WHDload is of equal interest), or games offering that support in particular conditions or on specific configs (like only for CD32, or only when using Sega gamepads, etc.).
To put it short: The point is not about historical accuracy or anything like this but to list what Amiga-related games can be played with MORE than one button TODAY. Therefore EVERY game title fitting the theme of this thread in any way can (should!) be contributed, and if by ANY existing means (through any kind of patch, using any kind of Amiga config, joystick/pad controller, etc.) it proves possible to play an Amiga game using more than ONE button, then it is of interest to this list, and you're then more than welcome to contribute its entry --hopefully to get a comprehensive list eventually. (Whenever known, details about the origin/conditions of use of the >1 button support will be given -- don't forget to tell if you know any details about).
[/DISCLAIMER]

So, as a follow-up of sorts to this thread, it seemed like an interesting idea (to me anyways) to come ask your help in listing as many Amiga games as possible that feature support for a 2nd fire button on the joystick.

I kinda reckon the list may prove pretty short [EDIT: not so short anymore after your many contributions, thank you all guys!] but that should only make the job easier (or would it?).

So here we go people, if you remember any particular game(s) supporting 2 or more fire buttons, please share your valuable knowledge about it below...

[EDIT]
Up to date list collecting all the names submitted in this thread so far (2nd of August 2017 -- 5 months till last update):

1943 (WHDLoad)
ADoom
After the War [Dinamic] (WHDload - 2nd button=Kick)
Agony (WHDLoad/original?)
Aladdin
Alien 3
Alien Bash 2
Alien Breed 2
Alien Breed - Tower Assault (CD32 joypad support)
Alien Breed 3D (CD32 only?)
Alien Breed 3D2 - The Killing Grounds (CD32 joypad support)
Apidya
Arabian Nights (CD32 only - 3 Assignable buttons: Attack, Inventory On/Off, Jump)
Astro Marine Corps (WHDLoad)
Badlands (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Fire Bullets/Missiles)
Banshee
Base Jumpers (_except_ CD32 - 2nd button=Bonus points — when pressed a few times)
Battle Squadron (WHDLoad)
BC Kid
Black Viper
Blastar [Core] (2nd button=Smart bomb)
Brutal Sports Football
Bubba'n'Stix
Bubble and Squeak
Cabal (WHDLoad - 2nd/Blue button=Grenades (remap); CD32 joypad - Play button=Pause)
Capital Punishment
Chaos Engine (CD32 only)
Cool Spot
Deluxe Galaga
Dennis
D/Generation (CD32 only)
Desert Strike
Dragonstone
Exile AGA (CD32 joypad support)
F1GP
Fifa International Soccer
Fightin' Spirit
Fire and Ice
Fire Force
Flashback
Football Glory
Ghost 'n' Goblins (WHDLoad)
Giana Sisters Special Edition (WHDLoad - 2nd/Blue button=Jump)
Gloom Deluxe
Golden Axe
The Great Giana Sisters (2nd button=Jump)
Hybris (WHDLoad)
Joe & Mac: Caveman Ninja
John Madden American Football
Jungle Strike
Keen Dreams
Kick Off 3 (2nd button _required_ to play)
Kick Off 3: European Challenge
Leander
Legends
Lionheart
Lollypop
The Lost Vikings
Marvin's Marvellous Adventure (_requires_ CD32 joypad)
Mean Arenas (CD32 only - 2nd button=Bomb)
Mega Typhoon
Mercs
Mega Twins (WHDLoad)
Miami Chase (WHDLoad - CD32 joypad support: Play button=Pause, Green=Escape, Blue/2nd button=Show Map)
Midnight Resistance (WHDLoad)
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat 2
Mr Nuts
Nigel Mansell's World Championship
NightBreed (2nd button=Run)
Ninja Mission [Arcadia]
Ninja Warriors (WHDLoad - /2 buttons joystick modes/: 1st button=Use Knife, 2nd=Throw 1 shuriken)
North & South (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Select Unit; CD32 joypad/joystick control for both players)
Payback (CD32 and PSX — with special interface — joypad support)
Pegasus (WHDLoad)
Powder
Primal Rage (2 buttons Option: 1st button=Normal Moves, 2nd=Special Moves)
Project X
Puggsy
R-Type
R-Type 2
Rainbow Islands (WHDLoad)
Roadkill
Ruff'n'Tumble (WHDLoad)
RVF Honda (WHDLoad - 2nd Joypad/Blue button=Accelerate)
Sarcophaser (WHDLoad)
Shadow Fighter (CD32 only)
Shadow of the Beast 3 (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Weapon Change)
Shaq Fu
Shinobi (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Trigger "Banzai")
Skeleton Krew
Snow Bros
Soccer Kid (CD32 only - 2nd button=Jump)
Solomon's Key
Solomon's Key 2 (2nd button=Retry Level / Level Selection Options)
The Speris Legacy
Treasure Trap (WHDLoad - CD32 joypad=Pickup/Drop, Map, Smartfish)
Spherical Worlds (WHDLoad)
Stormlord (WHDLoad)
Street Fighter 2
Super Obliteration
Super Skidmarks
Super Stardust (WHDLoad - CD32 joypad support on standard/floppy version)
Super Street Fighter II
Super Street Fighter II Turbo (CD32 joypad support)
Superfrog (CD32 only - 2nd button=Jump)
SVIW (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Jump Buggy)
Tiger's Bane (CD32 joypad support)
Toki (WHDLoad)
Tony & Friends In Kellogg's Land
Top Gear 2 (CD32 only)
Total Football
Turrican
Turrican II
Turrican 3
Uropa 2 (CD32 joypad support)
Virocop
Whizz
Wing Commander (CD32 only)
Wipeout 2097 (CD32 joypad support)
Worms: Director's Cut (CD32 joypad support)
X-Out
XP8
Xtreme Racing
Yo! Joe!
Z-Out
Ziriax (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Weapon Selection)

[/EDIT]

PS. This page uses the above list (or at least an old and very incomplete version thereof) -- very interesting wiki tuto to mod your classic digital joystick(s) into a 2 independant buttons one!

Retro-Nerd · 01 February 2011, 01:24

Turrican 1-3
Lionheart
Banshee
Aladdin
Bubble and Squeak
Lollypop
Apidya
Fire and Ice
BC Kid

SunChild · 01 February 2011, 01:41

Nice list for a start (all are pretty excellent games too!).

Was never aware that any of the Turrican games did propose the support!!! (Even though I owned a couple of 2 button sticks back in the days). I'll try that ASAP in WinUAE!! thx for the tip R-N!

(EDIT: Ok, after trying it again with 2 buttons mapped in WUAE I realized I _was_ aware of the support in Turrican! ^^ I just forgot about it though...)

Any others, people?

frikilokooo · 01 February 2011, 01:57

ProjectX
Agony
Skeleton Krew
Powder
Alien Breed 2
Alien Breed Tower Assault
Flashback
ADoom
Bubba'n Stick
Dragonstone
(A lot of Core games)

SunChild · 01 February 2011, 02:59

I like Core. Twas always a favourite company of mine as I enjoyed many of their products and thought they often proved very well done in terms of production and gameplay. I never realized the 2 buttons support was a common feature of their games though.
Here's one more reason for me to praise them I guess! ^^

Retro1234 · 01 February 2011, 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by frikilokooo

Agony

Are we counting Patched WHDload installs or just out of the Box?

Mortal Kombat 1+2
Rtype 1+2
Leander
Cool Spot
Mercs

frikilokooo · 01 February 2011, 03:25

I can not remember if Agony originally used 2 buttons,very bad if Agony didn't do that.

SunChild · 01 February 2011, 04:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

Are we counting Patched WHDload installs or just out of the Box?

I suppose both (at least my interest in asking the question was more about ideas of what games to play than purely /historical/). Although if you can remember which is which you might as well put it as a sidenote...

Thanks for your contributing BTW! That the original R-Type did support this comes once again as a total surprise to me... I got my 2 separate buttons joysticks rather late and I guess I just skipped playing many among the older games of my collection using them.
Never too late to fix that though!

cosmicfrog · 01 February 2011, 13:26

Desert Strike

WHDLoad version dose, can`t remember if original dose too

Minuous · 02 February 2011, 00:18

Great Giana Sisters.

SunChild · 02 February 2011, 09:07

Giana sisters, really?
Could you be more specific? I can't even start to figure out what the 2nd button could be used for...

TCD · 02 February 2011, 09:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunChild

Could you be more specific?

Quote:

- 2nd button supported (to jump)

http://www.whdload.de/games/GianaSisters.html

SunChild · 03 February 2011, 00:08

Right, Thx CyberDruid. That refered to the WHDLoad version again (I still don't have the reflex to try these, ha ha).

Mmmh, technically this is 2nd button support indeed, albeit not a very exciting one (AFAI'm concerned) since it maps an action (jump) already available anyway with the UP direction on the stick.
That may be of interest for console gamers. I've personally always hated using a button to jump in any game (and invariably remap this function to UP direction where available), it just doesn't feel as much natural as merely pushing the stick up to perform.

SunChild · 15 February 2011, 13:51

Found another...

Apparently Puggsy (platformer from Psygnosis) not only supports 2 buttons but they are indeed required to play it properly.

frikilokooo · 15 February 2011, 18:39

A few more: Football Glory,Virocop,Xtreme Racing,Mega Typhoon,Battle Scuadron.

Lion · 15 February 2011, 23:41

Another question: What Amiga-compatible joysticks have two independent mouse buttons?

slk486 · 16 February 2011, 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lion

Another question: What Amiga-compatible joysticks have two independent mouse buttons?

This one http://segaretro.org/File:QS128F.jpg

But any Master, Mega Drive, or CD32 controller would do as well.

Cammy · 16 February 2011, 08:27

The one I use here is switchable between 1 and 2 button modes.

It's the QuickShot Python and it has a turbo-fire switch too. There's a love/hate thread about them here on EAB, but I can't see anything wrong with the ones I have, I own four of them and they all work perfectly and feel great to handle.

Here's the thread about them: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=37133

frikilokooo · 16 February 2011, 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by slk486

But any Master, Mega Drive, or CD32 controller would do as well.

All don't work with two buttons,those that I have none works with two buttons.

CD32 controller works of course.

slk486 · 17 February 2011, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by frikilokooo

All don't work with two buttons,those that I have none works with two buttons.

CD32 controller works of course.

Oh, my bad. I remember using my Mega Drive Arcade stick with a few Amiga games, that supported 2 buttons, but was probably more luck, than anything else, then

01 February 2011, 00:56	#1
SunChild EAB Noobie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Natori-shi, JAPAN Age: 43 Posts: 116	Games supporting 2 (ie. independent) fire buttons? (Note: thought a bit about posting this into /support.games/ at first, but since this is not exactly about asking help to fix/play a game, + involves some recollection (and therefore nostalgia, as with all things Amiga ^^), well I hope I made the right choice in posting here after all) [DISCLAIMER] To make things clear after reading the latest entries (page 4/5 of the thread): the point intended here is to list as _exhaustively_ as possible! ie. NOT limiting to any specific 2 (or MORE!!?) buttons support, nor excluding anything like eg. games natively not supporting more than one button (late/unofficial added support like WHDload is of equal interest), or games offering that support in particular conditions or on specific configs (like only for CD32, or only when using Sega gamepads, etc.). To put it short: The point is not about historical accuracy or anything like this but to list what Amiga-related games can be played with MORE than one button TODAY. Therefore EVERY game title fitting the theme of this thread in any way can (should!) be contributed, and if by ANY existing means (through any kind of patch, using any kind of Amiga config, joystick/pad controller, etc.) it proves possible to play an Amiga game using more than ONE button, then it is of interest to this list, and you're then more than welcome to contribute its entry --hopefully to get a comprehensive list eventually. (Whenever known, details about the origin/conditions of use of the >1 button support will be given -- don't forget to tell if you know any details about). [/DISCLAIMER] So, as a follow-up of sorts to this thread, it seemed like an interesting idea (to me anyways) to come ask your help in listing as many Amiga games as possible that feature support for a 2nd fire button on the joystick. I kinda reckon the list may prove pretty short [EDIT: not so short anymore after your many contributions, thank you all guys!] but that should only make the job easier (or would it?). So here we go people, if you remember any particular game(s) supporting 2 or more fire buttons, please share your valuable knowledge about it below... [EDIT] Up to date list collecting all the names submitted in this thread so far (2nd of August 2017 -- 5 months till last update): 1943 (WHDLoad) ADoom After the War [Dinamic] (WHDload - 2nd button=Kick) Agony (WHDLoad/original?) Aladdin Alien 3 Alien Bash 2 Alien Breed 2 Alien Breed - Tower Assault (CD32 joypad support) Alien Breed 3D (CD32 only?) Alien Breed 3D2 - The Killing Grounds (CD32 joypad support) Apidya Arabian Nights (CD32 only - 3 Assignable buttons: Attack, Inventory On/Off, Jump) Astro Marine Corps (WHDLoad) Badlands (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Fire Bullets/Missiles) Banshee Base Jumpers (_except_ CD32 - 2nd button=Bonus points — when pressed a few times) Battle Squadron (WHDLoad) BC Kid Black Viper Blastar [Core] (2nd button=Smart bomb) Brutal Sports Football Bubba'n'Stix Bubble and Squeak Cabal (WHDLoad - 2nd/Blue button=Grenades (remap); CD32 joypad - Play button=Pause) Capital Punishment Chaos Engine (CD32 only) Cool Spot Deluxe Galaga Dennis D/Generation (CD32 only) Desert Strike Dragonstone Exile AGA (CD32 joypad support) F1GP Fifa International Soccer Fightin' Spirit Fire and Ice Fire Force Flashback Football Glory Ghost 'n' Goblins (WHDLoad) Giana Sisters Special Edition (WHDLoad - 2nd/Blue button=Jump) Gloom Deluxe Golden Axe The Great Giana Sisters (2nd button=Jump) Hybris (WHDLoad) Joe & Mac: Caveman Ninja John Madden American Football Jungle Strike Keen Dreams Kick Off 3 (2nd button _required_ to play) Kick Off 3: European Challenge Leander Legends Lionheart Lollypop The Lost Vikings Marvin's Marvellous Adventure (_requires_ CD32 joypad) Mean Arenas (CD32 only - 2nd button=Bomb) Mega Typhoon Mercs Mega Twins (WHDLoad) Miami Chase (WHDLoad - CD32 joypad support: Play button=Pause, Green=Escape, Blue/2nd button=Show Map) Midnight Resistance (WHDLoad) Mortal Kombat Mortal Kombat 2 Mr Nuts Nigel Mansell's World Championship NightBreed (2nd button=Run) Ninja Mission [Arcadia] Ninja Warriors (WHDLoad - /2 buttons joystick modes/: 1st button=Use Knife, 2nd=Throw 1 shuriken) North & South (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Select Unit; CD32 joypad/joystick control for both players) Payback (CD32 and PSX — with special interface — joypad support) Pegasus (WHDLoad) Powder Primal Rage (2 buttons Option: 1st button=Normal Moves, 2nd=Special Moves) Project X Puggsy R-Type R-Type 2 Rainbow Islands (WHDLoad) Roadkill Ruff'n'Tumble (WHDLoad) RVF Honda (WHDLoad - 2nd Joypad/Blue button=Accelerate) Sarcophaser (WHDLoad) Shadow Fighter (CD32 only) Shadow of the Beast 3 (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Weapon Change) Shaq Fu Shinobi (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Trigger "Banzai") Skeleton Krew Snow Bros Soccer Kid (CD32 only - 2nd button=Jump) Solomon's Key Solomon's Key 2 (2nd button=Retry Level / Level Selection Options) The Speris Legacy Treasure Trap (WHDLoad - CD32 joypad=Pickup/Drop, Map, Smartfish) Spherical Worlds (WHDLoad) Stormlord (WHDLoad) Street Fighter 2 Super Obliteration Super Skidmarks Super Stardust (WHDLoad - CD32 joypad support on standard/floppy version) Super Street Fighter II Super Street Fighter II Turbo (CD32 joypad support) Superfrog (CD32 only - 2nd button=Jump) SVIW (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Jump Buggy) Tiger's Bane (CD32 joypad support) Toki (WHDLoad) Tony & Friends In Kellogg's Land Top Gear 2 (CD32 only) Total Football Turrican Turrican II Turrican 3 Uropa 2 (CD32 joypad support) Virocop Whizz Wing Commander (CD32 only) Wipeout 2097 (CD32 joypad support) Worms: Director's Cut (CD32 joypad support) X-Out XP8 Xtreme Racing Yo! Joe! Z-Out Ziriax (WHDLoad - 2nd button=Weapon Selection) [/EDIT] PS. This page uses the above list (or at least an old and very incomplete version thereof) -- very interesting wiki tuto to mod your classic digital joystick(s) into a 2 independant buttons one! Last edited by SunChild; 02 August 2017 at 09:56. Reason: List update...

01 February 2011, 01:24	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 11,030	Turrican 1-3 Lionheart Banshee Aladdin Bubble and Squeak Lollypop Apidya Fire and Ice BC Kid Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 01 February 2011 at 01:32.

01 February 2011, 01:41	#3
SunChild EAB Noobie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Natori-shi, JAPAN Age: 43 Posts: 116	Nice list for a start (all are pretty excellent games too!). Was never aware that any of the Turrican games did propose the support!!! (Even though I owned a couple of 2 button sticks back in the days). I'll try that ASAP in WinUAE!! thx for the tip R-N! (EDIT: Ok, after trying it again with 2 buttons mapped in WUAE I realized I _was_ aware of the support in Turrican! ^^ I just forgot about it though...) Any others, people? Last edited by SunChild; 01 February 2011 at 02:47.

16 February 2011, 08:27	#18
Cammy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Age: 33 Posts: 1,134	The one I use here is switchable between 1 and 2 button modes. It's the QuickShot Python and it has a turbo-fire switch too. There's a love/hate thread about them here on EAB, but I can't see anything wrong with the ones I have, I own four of them and they all work perfectly and feel great to handle. Here's the thread about them: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=37133 Last edited by Cammy; 17 February 2011 at 01:34.

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01 February 2011, 01:57	#4
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 38 Posts: 1,119	ProjectX Agony Skeleton Krew Powder Alien Breed 2 Alien Breed Tower Assault Flashback ADoom Bubba'n Stick Dragonstone (A lot of Core games)

01 February 2011, 02:59	#5
SunChild EAB Noobie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Natori-shi, JAPAN Age: 43 Posts: 116	I like Core. Twas always a favourite company of mine as I enjoyed many of their products and thought they often proved very well done in terms of production and gameplay. I never realized the 2 buttons support was a common feature of their games though. Here's one more reason for me to praise them I guess! ^^

01 February 2011, 03:25	#7
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 38 Posts: 1,119	I can not remember if Agony originally used 2 buttons,very bad if Agony didn't do that.

01 February 2011, 13:26	#9
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 50 Posts: 3,555	Desert Strike WHDLoad version dose, can`t remember if original dose too

02 February 2011, 00:18	#10
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 1,726	Great Giana Sisters.

02 February 2011, 09:07	#11
SunChild EAB Noobie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Natori-shi, JAPAN Age: 43 Posts: 116	Giana sisters, really? Could you be more specific? I can't even start to figure out what the 2nd button could be used for...

03 February 2011, 00:08	#13
SunChild EAB Noobie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Natori-shi, JAPAN Age: 43 Posts: 116	Right, Thx CyberDruid. That refered to the WHDLoad version again (I still don't have the reflex to try these, ha ha). Mmmh, technically this is 2nd button support indeed, albeit not a very exciting one (AFAI'm concerned) since it maps an action (jump) already available anyway with the UP direction on the stick. That may be of interest for console gamers. I've personally always hated using a button to jump in any game (and invariably remap this function to UP direction where available), it just doesn't feel as much natural as merely pushing the stick up to perform.

15 February 2011, 13:51	#14
SunChild EAB Noobie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Natori-shi, JAPAN Age: 43 Posts: 116	Found another... Apparently Puggsy (platformer from Psygnosis) not only supports 2 buttons but they are indeed required to play it properly.

15 February 2011, 18:39	#15
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 38 Posts: 1,119	A few more: Football Glory,Virocop,Xtreme Racing,Mega Typhoon,Battle Scuadron.

15 February 2011, 23:41	#16
Lion Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rainbow Islands Posts: 19	Another question: What Amiga-compatible joysticks have two independent mouse buttons?

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