English Amiga Board

Go Back   English Amiga Board > Support > support.WinUAE

Thread Tools
Old 01 August 2002, 22:37   #1
Posts: n/a
Arrow OS3.9 SetPatch and WinUAE

Is possible to use the the rom updates that came with SetPatch of OS3.9 ? When I use it without NONSD and NOROMUPDATE switches I get some guru-meditations.


A ROM compiled for 020 (3.5) can be used, or only a 3.1 rom?
Old 02 August 2002, 09:12   #2
Registered User
thomas's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Germany
Posts: 5,681
There is no 3.5 ROM, so put it into the trash box. The 3.5 ROM that can be downloaded somewhere is a fake and might be virus infected. You need a 3.1 ROM for OS3.5 and OS3.9.

OS3.9 runs well with all ROM Updates and without any options for SetPatch. Be sure to set up a 68020 or better processor in WinUAE. OS3.5/3.9 need that (any part, not only SetPatch).
thomas is offline  
Old 02 August 2002, 15:40   #3
Registered User
LordBug's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Someplace
Posts: 88
You sure about that? I seem to remember ROM 3.5 being sold when OS 3.5 came out.
LordBug is offline  
Old 02 August 2002, 15:44   #4
blackcornflake's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cereal box
Posts: 759
3.5 ROM chips? Nope. Uh-uh. Nein.

3.1 is as far as KS ROM chips have gone so far.
blackcornflake is offline  
Old 02 August 2002, 15:52   #5
RIP Friends
Paul's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 2,157
Copied from...

The "Kickstart 3.5" ROM image that has been floating around the Internet (named by TOSEC as "Kickstart 3.5 (40.071) (OS3.5) (Commodore) (1996)") is not only a fake, but a rather poorly done one. It would appear that the source of the author's work was most likely yet another altered ROM (named by TOSEC as "Kickstart 3.1 (40.070) (A4000T) (Commodore) (1993)"), which in and of itself is neither from an A4000T (as it contains workbench.library) or original (as the Workbench titlebar reads "AmigaOS 3.1" instead of "Amiga Workbench"). Further, it is entirely possible that the original base work of both efforts wasn't even revision 40.070, although I have not confirmed this.

The checksum of the fake 3.5 Kickstart ROM is 5AE7AE2A (easily seen from 0x7FFE8-0x7FFEB, starting 24 bytes from the end of the ROM data) and has been altered from the "original" (see disclaimer above) in the following manner (offsets provided):

0000000F: Changed minor revision from 70 to 71
0000001A-0000001D: Changed "AMIGA" to "Amiga"
00000020: Changed "ROM" to "RAM"
00000056: Changed "1993" to "1996"
00000059-0000006D: Changed "Commodore-Amiga, Inc." to "Amiga Technologies "
00000087: Changed "3.1" to "3.5"
000000A4: Changed minor revision from 10 to 11 (exec.library)
000000A8: Changed day from 15 to 11
000000AA: Changed month from 7 to 1
000000AD: Changed year from 93 to 96
00003740-0000374F: Changed "Software Failure" to "Guru Meditation "
00003755-0000375F: Changed "Recoverable" to "Small Sins "
0000376B-00003777: Changed "Press left mouse" to "Meditate and use"
00018CF1: Changed "AmigaDOS" to "Amiga OS"
0007FFE8-0007FFEB: Changed ROM checksum to 5AE7AE2A

Not only is this a ROM hack, it's not even a clever one -- it is merely a simple exercise in text replacement. While I am mildly amused by the use of "Small Sins Alert" and directing the user to meditate on software failures, I am greatly disappointed that the Amiga community at large has managed to be so taken in by this for so long. To me, the general Amiga community has always stood for pride and integrity. The fact that people who should know better (who did not create the hack) continue to perpetuate this folly as genuine strikes a deep nerve with me. Regardless, the "ugly truth" is now out and obvious for all to see.

I will no longer respond to any claims of legitimacy of a post-3.1 Kickstart ROM. I am aware of exactly one such actual ROM, based on Kickstart 3.1 and used in the Walker prototypes, that has been dumped but is in absolutely no case publicly available in any form. It can be clearly distinguished by the rather unique Kickstart screen that differs greatly from any Commodore-Amiga release. I can virtually guarantee that you don't have it, and even if you did, you wouldn't be able to use it, as it will only operate in the Walker environment (so there is no point in hoping that it may someday work in an Amiga emulator such as UAE).

Please don't waste your time and mine by trying to "un-hack" parts of the text in any Kickstart ROM image and pass it off as the "real" 40.071 (or any other revision, for that matter).

Permission is expressly granted for this article to be republished in any medium, electronic or print, as long as it remains unaltered in its entirety and credit is given to me.

Rodney Hester
Paul is offline  
Old 02 August 2002, 18:56   #6
Posts: n/a
Thumbs up Wow, what a trap!

A fake ROM, I dont knew. A very thanks for all the help I got in this post. I think these posts can help other users, that like me, are using this fake.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OS3.9 Won't See CD in WinUAE... Claw22000 project.ClassicWB 5 21 April 2011 11:31
Configure OS3.1 in WinUAE HDF and transfer to real HD protek support.WinUAE 3 10 November 2009 15:32
RAM problem with WinUAE and OS3.9 lelezetec support.WinUAE 10 21 October 2009 15:53
OS3.5 or 3.9 for WinUAE? RabidRabbit support.WinUAE 5 12 April 2009 00:53
Picasso IV problem with SetPatch OS3.1 Calgor support.Hardware 0 11 June 2007 16:22

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:59.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Page generated in 0.06140 seconds with 12 queries