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Old 14 November 2010, 04:46   #1
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Video: CDTV-CR in action

[ Show youtube player ] showing my CDTV-CR in action. This was supposed to be the replacement for the CDTV to lower costs. It is based on the Amiga 600 and even has an PCMCIA slot. Anyway, I guess there are less than 10 of these floating around and I am not sure how many actually work.
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Old 14 November 2010, 05:23   #2
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Old 14 November 2010, 08:31   #3
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So what exactly was cost reduced in this version compared to the original CDTV. From the video I can see a no. of improvements over the original...so what gives?
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So what exactly was cost reduced in this version compared to the original CDTV. From the video I can see a no. of improvements over the original...so what gives?
It is what is inside that was supposed to provide the cost reduction. If you compare the two, the CR has a lot of room inside and is a lot less "busy." I guess Commodore was hoping for a very large cost reduction, but the CR did not manage to deliver enough of a savings to make it worth producing so they scrapped the program.
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Old 14 November 2010, 09:58   #5
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Well it's a very interesting device...I guess it can run OS2.x +? At least they got rid of the awful CD caddy and an improved lcd display - it actually tells you the track no. which the orig. CDTV didn't. Is it noisy like the orig. CDTV psu?
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Old 14 November 2010, 19:41   #6
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You can put an A600 accelerator in these.
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Didn't all CDTV-CR have built in floppydrives? I've seen another one and it had a floppydrive.
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Didn't all CDTV-CR have built in floppydrives? I've seen another one and it had a floppydrive.
it has a floppy tray, floppy and power connector but no actual drive. It looks like there is a cover over the port where it goes but I don't know how to take it off as I don't want to break it.
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it has a floppy tray, floppy and power connector but no actual drive. It looks like there is a cover over the port where it goes but I don't know how to take it off as I don't want to break it.
I would'nt want to break it either, . Let it be, lol.
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Old 15 November 2010, 16:35   #11
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Could you post a pic of the innards? edit: sorry, googled and found one


One thing I love about the CDTV is how "hacky" it seems - they've taken a 500 and hacked stuff onto it, making as few changes as possible. I'd guess there's a lot of optimisation possible on the CDTV-CR...
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Old 15 November 2010, 17:10   #12
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Very interesting indeed =)
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One thing I love about the CDTV is how "hacky" it seems - they've taken a 500 and hacked stuff onto it, making as few changes as possible.
It was a special projects "demo" which was stoopidly put into production.

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I'd guess there's a lot of optimisation possible on the CDTV-CR...
You've just got to wonder what the feck they were thinking? The CDTV wasn't selling at all. The A500/A600 sales were dogged because of the release of more modern consoles such as the SNES and rumours of AA+ chipset... just madness to be playing with such things. Even given our hindsight it seems madness. Ubery high risks for little or no return. No market, no applications. Non of this would have been allowed through P1 (the idea stage) in our company.
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It was a special projects "demo" which was stoopidly put into production.


You've just got to wonder what the feck they were thinking? The CDTV wasn't selling at all. The A500/A600 sales were dogged because of the release of more modern consoles such as the SNES and rumours of AA+ chipset... just madness to be playing with such things. Even given our hindsight it seems madness. Ubery high risks for little or no return. No market, no applications. Non of this would have been allowed through P1 (the idea stage) in our company.
Oh Alex! If only you were in charge of Commodore! I m sure they d be in a better position and still be around today!
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That photo is correct. What you see in that picture is everything save for the video card. I will post pics of the PAL and NTSC cards I have in this thread later.

I don't see a place for a hard disk or an A600 style accelerator on this motherboard.
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The harddrive goes on the bottom of the floppy drive cradle, there is a simm module with the IDE interface and flash roms on it.
The CPU is front left above the kickstart rom and I havent tried my A630 on my CDTV CR, the CPU may be facing the wrong way.
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Old 18 November 2010, 21:21   #17
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It's a nice piece of history but I prefer the original (because it's not built to a low budget and is extremely well made).

I love the CDTV, more than any Amiga I've ever owned... ok, so maybe my original 500 wins that spot...
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I wouldnt say the CDTV CR was a low budget machine (Although CR does mean Cost Reduced) as they totally redesigned the Amiga's custom chipset for just that one prototype.
Also its kinda cool to be able to play MP2 video full screen on a 7Mhz 16bit computer hehe.
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Old 19 November 2010, 14:51   #19
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Ermmm.. was this MP2 playback ever proven? If it is correct, then this is really an outstanding piece of hw. Can't recall if I ever saw this as a fact written anywhere, albeit I know it doesn't means that it can't be true :P
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The FMV card was even more rare than the CDTV CR but yes from what I have been told they did actually prototype the card.
Its not really outstanding tbh, you could stick an mpeg decoder in anything, same as the MAS player letting an A500 decode MP3's
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