Details for the next generation of Flickerfixers from Individual Computers

[BarryB]

Originally Posted by amigakit.com

We received the stock a few hours before we closed today and it will take us a few days of hard work to pack and despatch the Indivision 1200 pre orders.

Take your time, rather they get packed and dispatched correctly than rushed and sent to the wrong address

[Akiko]

Where can I buy the recommended VGA adapter?

[Schoenfeld]

Originally Posted by Akiko

Where can I buy the recommended VGA adapter?

That's a standard thing - if you don't find it at your favourite Amiga reseller, you can surely find it in your local PC store. There are these small dongle-type adapters for 1-2 EUR, and (a little harder-to-find) simple cables that have DVI on one end, and VGA on the other end.

Jens

[TreacleWench]

My Indi is now showing as "Awaiting Dispatch". Thanks AmigaKitters!

[johnim]

mines waiting dispatch too woo hoo

[roberthazelby]

Mine's just arrived!!!

[diablothe2nd]

Originally Posted by roberthazelby

Mine's just arrived!!!

omg not fair!!!

mines still out for delivery

[FOL]

Originally Posted by roberthazelby

Mine's just arrived!!!

Whats the saying, "no pictures, it didnt happen", lol.

[diablothe2nd]

Mines just arrived!

shall post pics when i get it working

[diablothe2nd]

ok folks, i have some bad news

those of us with FastATA Mk4's will need two sets of rom sockets to rise the ata off the Indivision, which means..... yup you guessed it! the keyboard will no longer fit ...


argh! :cries

[roberthazelby]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

Mines just arrived!

shall post pics when i get it working

Fantastic. Let me know how you get on.

I've spent the last month or so without a fully working 1200 tower, and only got it back up and running last weekend. I intend to spend this weekend actually using the thing, so will wait until next week or even next weekend before I get the Indivision installed.

[kipper2k]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

ok folks, i have some bad news

those of us with FastATA Mk4's will need two sets of rom sockets to rise the ata off the Indivision, which means..... yup you guessed it! the keyboard will no longer fit ...


argh! :cries

Take some pics, i'm thinking an offset socket adapter will fix the problem

[mfilos]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

ok folks, i have some bad news

those of us with FastATA Mk4's will need two sets of rom sockets to rise the ata off the Indivision, which means..... yup you guessed it! the keyboard will no longer fit ...


argh! :cries

Kipper2k to the rescue

Back then with Indivision mk1 and FastATA mk3 I had the same issue so i cut a small part of my keyboard's metal backplate and it worked just fine
It's kinda hardcore solution but it works.

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=651310&postcount=3

[diablothe2nd]

i'm not so sure it will.

the problem is the connector you plug into the Indi. it's really, really thick and the cable comes out topside, worsening the problem.

i took the connector to bits and shaved a little off the clamp on the cable out side, so the cable runs straight out to the right now rather than up.

i flattened the pins on the underside of the fastata just where that connector goes and i reckon..... if i had a rom socket that's about 1.5 times the height of two i could *just* squeeze it in with those modifications.

[diablothe2nd]

Originally Posted by mfilos

Kipper2k to the rescue

Back then with Indivision mk1 and FastATA mk3 I had the same issue so i cut a small part of my keyboard's metal backplate and it worked just fine
It's kinda hardcore solution but it works.

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=651310&postcount=3

yeah i thought about that... but i'm not sure that'd be enough, you're only using one set of risers on yours right?

[fitzsteve]

Mine's here & installed

I just need to find the Indi MkII config tool so I can get the image centered, can't locate it on icompe.de











The Image adjustment on the Monitor is disabled via DVI

[diablothe2nd]

@fitzsteve you got a manual??? i didn't

also, and i'm trying not to sound like an idiot here LOL... did you try the screenmode settings thing that allows you to move/stretch your desktop?

[kipper2k]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

yeah i thought about that... but i'm not sure that'd be enough, you're only using one set of risers on yours right?

I dont have the Fast ATA, thats why i'd need to see pictures, but i was thinking that the adapter boaard would sit on the header and then traces would relocate the actual fastata itself. I'd need to see pictures to get a better idea of what exactly the issues are.

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

...the problem is the connector you plug into the Indi. it's really, really thick and the cable comes out topside, worsening the problem..

@kipper2k have you made that connector yet? It seems it should be as thin as possible. I'm going to install a Fast Ata too.

Edit: Oh, you posted 1min before...

[diablothe2nd]

Originally Posted by kipper2k

I dont have the Fast ATA, thats why i'd need to see pictures, but i was thinking that the adapter boaard would sit on the header and then traces would relocate the actual fastata itself. I'd need to see pictures to get a better idea of what exactly the issues are.

i'm tryna figure out something with the lighting, it's a dull day and dark in my "Retro Room" so my phone camera wont produce anything of use.

i'm also waiting on the mrs to swing by maplins on her way back from work to pick up some bits i'll need to get it all running (forgot to ask amigakit to send me a dvi-hdmi adapter)

[kipper2k]

Due to the fact that the 20 pin connector coming off the MKII is an edge type connector they are fatter than a regular floppy/HDD cable due to the friction springs that have to bite both top and bottom of the board so i am not sure what options are available yet

[fitzsteve]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

@fitzsteve you got a manual??? i didn't

also, and i'm trying not to sound like an idiot here LOL... did you try the screenmode settings thing that allows you to move/stretch your desktop?

Yeah you're thinking of the Overscan settings, that's not going to help since the whole display area is off the screen.

I might try another Monitor later, but ideally I wanted to use that once since it lives on the same desk as my A1200

Works perfect in 1024x768 HighGFX though







(these are 16 col backdrops in 16col mode)

[diablothe2nd]

gah i'm itching to see if mine works

i'm gunna shut off my pc that i'm typing on and swipe the DVI-hdmi lead i have one this to try it out. without the fastata though for the time being.

[fishyfish]

Congrats to everyone who's receiving their Indi MK2's. Im pretty envious
I understand that its impossible to predict the future, but does anyone have any idea of how likely it'll be they'll still be available in a month or so? Ive been waiting for over a year, but money happens to be tight to coincide with the actual release. Im going to be devestated if I miss out again.

[clebin]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

gah i'm itching to see if mine works

i'm gunna shut off my pc that i'm typing on and swipe the DVI-hdmi lead i have one this to try it out. without the fastata though for the time being.

Are you using it with the upper RF shield? From the manual:

"We recommend to put the upper RF shield back on. This is of course only possible with modifications. Please cut a hole into the RF shield with an appropriate tool, so there will be no shorts with the Indivision AGA MK2. Operating the computer without the upper RF shield is possible, but might result in EM noise and probably even in random computer crashes."

Chris

[diablothe2nd]

Originally Posted by clebin

From the manual....

I didn't get one!

Although Amigakit are on the case and sending me one via email

No i'm running without upper rf shielding... the amount of work i'd need to put in to get ALL my mods to fit would probably have so many holes and gaps that it'd be pointless.

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Now I have a problem, but this maybe answered by the manual i'm waiting to recieve... none of the screenmodes are playing nice with my tv via hdmi... the TV complains "out of range".

I'm guessing i need to set up a new screenmode specifically for all indi resolutions? but what about gaming, where i wont be able to do such a thing when playing from floppies? it's no problem though as i can flick the tv over to the input i have from the RGB-scart lead.

[fitzsteve]

I tested on another TV, I still get the black bar in PAL/NTSC modes but HD720 is working great

I'm using DVI-HDMI adapter on this set.

[diablothe2nd]

Steve, did yours just work out of the box? or did you need to set a screenmode? i'm getting nothing from mine but it could be my cheap and nasty tv.

[clebin]

@fitzsteve

I don't think the config tool has been released yet. The Picture looks fantastic in HD720 though!

@diablothe2nd

That's what I wanted to hear about the RF shield. There isn't much detail in the manual on your problem, but it looks like you'll have to wait for the config tool as well. Here's some bits from the manual you're missing:

"You do not nee a drier to operate Indivision AGA, therefore we haven't included a disk. For adjustments, general configuration and possible flash-updates, we'll be providing programs and documentation on our website www.icomp.de under "support" starting May/June 2012
....
There may be monitors - especially DVI monitors - that can't handle these frequencies as they are slightly non-standard. In this case, we're asking you to use a DVI->VGA adapter and use an analogue VGA monitor until we can provide the config-tool that lets you make the required adjustments to generate exact frequencies and screen sizes that your DVI monitor requires.

... Without the config-tool, you may only get a picture on a very good multisync-monitor for all screenmodes."

Hope this helps.

Chris

[Retrofan]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

I tested on another TV, I still get the black bar in PAL/NTSC modes but HD720 is working great

I'm using DVI-HDMI adapter on this set.

Beeing photos they look pretty clear

[diablothe2nd]

Thanks chris.

I just tried the DVI-HDMI lead on a Sony LCD tv we have, says the same "out of range" message as the cheapo little one.

not working through DVI-vga connector either!

WTF. I seem to have the most rotten luck!

EDIT:
something must be working though if it says "out of range" through hdmi though, otherwise it'd just say nothing like there's nothing plugged in.

Question: The DVI-HDMI lead i'm using is a really expensive one for DVI-D... it has all pins on the connector (unlike my DVI-VGA cable that has a dozen or so pins) . you don't suppose it's simply a matter of the choice of DVI-hdmi cable do you? do i need a simple passthrough rather than these expensive 30 quid(ish) do-hickeys with all the gold trimmings?

[fitzsteve]

@diablo

Try the high gfx driver and see if you get an output with that, put in devs/monitors and set it as you screen mode but don't save!

[Nipedley]

Is there any way to tell if it is working? I've just fitted mine but not getting a picture or any messages (out of range etc.) over HDMI->DVI cable or VGA :/

I understand the TV may not support it but I can't actually tell if the indivision is working at all or not.

[duga]

I think it's a good idea to avoid HDMI input (on your TV) until you've got DVI or VGA working.

[diablothe2nd]

Originally Posted by duga

I think it's a good idea to avoid HDMI input (on your TV) until you've got DVI or VGA working.

hmmm.

i could hook it up to a DVI monitor i have... just means relocating it which will be a PITA as it's hardmounted.

but then, as per the manual it's possible even a DVI monitor wont work either! and all three of my DVI monitors are the exact same make and model (triple screen eyefinity setup)

[Retrofan]

Nipedley I think the best you can do is to try it with a Pc monitor.

EDIT: It isn't any surprise, is it? We all knew it wasn't going to work with all monitors/Tv's, with all of those that there are. It is just a matter of time.

[duga]

Originally Posted by diablothe2nd

hmmm.

i could hook it up to a DVI monitor i have... just means relocating it which will be a PITA as it's hardmounted.

but then, as per the manual it's possible even a DVI monitor wont work either! and all three of my DVI monitors are the exact same make and model (triple screen eyefinity setup)

I'm sure at least one of your monitors supports VGA too? Try connect Indivision MK2 to a VGA cable with the help of a DVI->VGA-adapter.

[diablothe2nd]

as i said they are all the same exact monitor, so it's either all or nothing :/

yeah they have vga inputs too. *sigh* i'm gunna have to lug all the amiga bits downstairs to test though. i'll do it tomorrow lol

[Nipedley]

Just saw fitzsteve's suggestion of using HighGFX driver and it's working over VGA (HDMI/DVI still blank)

I can't load any games and the picture is far too big for my screen, but the picture that is there looks great! It works and that's all that matters - I'm quite happy to wait for the config tool.

The picture really is fantastic. Thanks Jens

[BarryB]

My order has been dispatched or despatched (take your pick), thanks Amigakit

Will I get tomorrow so I can try it out over the weekend? Probably not as it's 'Royal Fail' who's delivering it