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Old 05 September 2010, 17:54   #61
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I think there is enough what-if's already. Amiga has had its run and as things usually turn out something else came along and took its place, much like the Amiga did marketwise to C64. I couldn't care less about the future of Amiga anyway, I wanna use my A500 simply because that's the machine I have (and have had) the most fun with. If there's any future to speak about it is that of the scene/community and not new ridiculously expensive machinery.
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Old 05 September 2010, 18:04   #62
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A Wintel in an Amiga No thanks Intel outside, please.
unless there was some super motorola that could compare... although saying that the Amiga could've kept with the PPC and offloaded the rest via the custom chips (super versions of course ) as before...
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Old 05 September 2010, 18:34   #63
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Yip, me too, but then, I am Slayer :-)

Perhaps if everyone was like me and never actually stopped using an Amiga they'd feel a similair way... Most of you who say it isn't even an Amiga anymore, I can ask, what exactly should it be for you to support it as an Amiga? If it had continued on evolving what components do you think would be in it? I'd assume it would use some type of current development...

I will never understand humans, they are so, fickle,,, LOL

I went from a A4000 to a SAM, then I brought a SAM Flex... I will buy the X1000, hell, I don't even have to think about it... later on I'll get the SAM460 too...

You's enjoy your older Amiga Systems... but then again, I have SH*TLOADs of that gear too
Simple. If the following code makes the background white it's an Amiga.

move.w #$fff,$dff180

By that definition UAE is more of an Amiga than the X1000.

X1000 == Sad parody built out of obsolete off the shelf parts.
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Old 05 September 2010, 19:03   #64
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Ok, X1000 is way too expensive. But at least they built an unconventional (i.e. non-Wintel) machine.
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Old 05 September 2010, 19:08   #65
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...much like the Amiga did marketwise to C64.
Actually it was quite the other way around and that was a big part of the problem with the Amiga. If the C64 sales weren't that high during the start years of the Amiga, Commodore might have acted different regarding advertisement and development of the Amiga. Buy yeah, enough of the what-ifs.

Btw : You guys know that using 'Wintel' makes very little sense here
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Old 05 September 2010, 19:20   #66
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Actually it was quite the other way around and that was a big part of the problem with the Amiga. If the C64 sales weren't that high during the start years of the Amiga, Commodore might have acted different regarding advertisement and development of the Amiga. Buy yeah, enough of the what-ifs.
Hrm yeah you've got a point there, it was a bad example but I trust you know where I was going with it.
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Old 05 September 2010, 19:23   #67
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Yep, "He's dead Jim, he's dead..."
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Old 05 September 2010, 19:30   #68
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Btw : You guys know that using 'Wintel' makes very little sense here
It was about one of those 'what if' scenarios
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You mean an Amiga running Windows? I think I skip that idea then
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There were plans of running NT on Hombre, weren't there?
(What I wanted to point out was that A-EON shouldn't be compared to CommodoreUSA and such.)
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A Wintel in an Amiga No thanks Intel outside, please.
Out of interest, why?

Apple switched to x86 chips and the only difference it made was that they were several orders of magnitude faster than their PPC Macs. They even continued charging the same painful amounts of money so no perception of premiumness was lost

AROS has the right idea. Very very few people want to shell out £650+ (sam440 systems et al) to play with an experimental OS with almost zero apps or to emulate something from 1993.
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I won't buy it either. The Natami seems alot more like "real Amiga" so I hope it will get released.
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Old 06 September 2010, 11:13   #73
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It seems there's a market, but it's limited to people who really like AmigaOS. For games you can get an old Amiga, and for occasional AmigaOS you can use WinUAE. It used to be that you could only emulate a low-spec Amiga, but nowadays, a modern PC running WinUAE beats any 68060 Amiga by over 100 times in most benchmark tests.
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Out of interest, why?

Apple switched to x86 chips and the only difference it made was that they were several orders of magnitude faster than their PPC Macs. They even continued charging the same painful amounts of money so no perception of premiumness was lost

AROS has the right idea. Very very few people want to shell out £650+ (sam440 systems et al) to play with an experimental OS with almost zero apps or to emulate something from 1993.
Orders of magnitude? Not quite. Not by a long shot! They are faster but not 10 or 100 times faster.
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Old 08 September 2010, 16:46   #75
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If there's ever going to be something as innovative as Amiga with as much impact on people's lives, it'll be a mobile device, not a desktop computer.


Nope, it will be a Quantum Computer with a Yottabyte of RAM. Now we are talkin baby!

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Orders of magnitude? Not quite. Not by a long shot! They are faster but not 10 or 100 times faster.
I've been told a million times not to exaggerate

Well quite a bit faster anyway, twice at least!
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Even I'm a PPC fan (I only use PPC Macs, for example) I prefer to continue using a "X86 Amiga" using a fast AMD PC + Icaros Destktop than buying this expensive machine.
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See for example the "Ares 2010" system from Vesalia:

http://www.vesalia.de/?V02b0f1354544...27873777879790
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I've been told a million times not to exaggerate

Well quite a bit faster anyway, twice at least!
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