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Old 10 September 2010, 14:10   #21
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Well, if I don't turn ''Wide Stereo'' on no tune plays correctly at all. Is this normal?
No.

I'm thinking that I was right and you've listened to tracks on the PC for too long

The Amiga was 4-channel. Two channels unique to left, two unique to right. With wide stereo & join stereo both OFF you get faithful representation of the real Amiga. If you are listening using headphones though this will sound strange with the channels separated (but just as strange as it would if you were listening to the real Amiga using headphones!)

Wide Stereo is a post-processing feature. I believe it mixes left and right together with delays intended to simulate the distance between wide speakers? Not sure it is 100% faithful to the Amiga sound but I like it though.

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''Join Stereo'' must be off or again the channels get messed up. This is with all formats, mod or exotic.
Join Stereo mixes the separate left and right channels together so you can listen to them using headphones without it sounding strange. You can control the amount of channel mixing in the Mixer Control.

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Setting ''Mix Quality'' to scaled doesn't do a thing for me.
Very strange. Play any chip tune and switch between "Scaled" and "Interpolated Quad" and if you cannot hear a change, a filtering, then your audio equipment (soundcard, amplifier, speakers, ears ) must be so poor the difference is lost.

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Right now I am playing Ron Klaren's BattleSquadron endtune
Endtune?? Do you mean hiscore or game_end?

http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Battl..._Barrax_Empire!

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and when the melody comes in in DeliPlayer it is just way too soft. The oldsk00l plug-in in WinAmp has no problem with it at all
Tell me which tune and I'll have a listen and see if I can notice the difference. Just to satisfy my curiosity.

You know what you like though. I don't think it really matters if it is faithful or not?

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Old 10 September 2010, 14:50   #22
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I'm thinking that I was right and you've listened to tracks on the PC for too long

The Amiga was 4-channel. Two channels unique to left, two unique to right. With wide stereo & join stereo both OFF you get faithful representation of the real Amiga. If you are listening using headphones though this will sound strange with the channels separated (but just as strange as it would if you were listening to the real Amiga using headphones!)
That must be it! Thank god for PC then

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Endtune?? Do you mean hiscore or game_end?
Uhm uhm, I don't have it properly named but I uploaded it for you. Simply one of the best tunes ever. http://www.sendspace.com/file/gmujhd

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If faithful = Amiga then goto PC
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Old 10 September 2010, 17:52   #23
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Uhm uhm, I don't have it properly named but I uploaded it for you. Simply one of the best tunes ever. http://www.sendspace.com/file/gmujhd
Hiscore. I'll have a listen in oldskool plugin in WinAMP & let you know.
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If you like this track then you have to listen to the MP3 Remix by Blazer

http://www.amigaremix.com/remixes/search/2231
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Old 10 September 2010, 21:00   #25
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To me, Deliplayer is better at playing even MP3's than most PC players.
You're not the only one.

It plays FLAC too.
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Old 11 September 2010, 03:47   #26
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Well I actually paid Florian the full price for my Deliplayer. I'm just sad they canned it.
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In my computer for stereo in Deliplayer to work I have to run it under Windows XP compatibility mode. I have Vista x64 & an old SB Audigy2.
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Old 12 September 2010, 13:38   #29
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If you like this track then you have to listen to the MP3 Remix by Blazer

http://www.amigaremix.com/remixes/search/2231
Thanks but I think that one didn't come out too well

Did you do the comparison btw?

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In my computer for stereo in Deliplayer to work I have to run it under Windows XP compatibility mode. I have Vista x64 & an old SB Audigy2.
This might be worth trying. Thanks for the tip.

If this doesn't work hopefully bLAZER will further develop his player and get more exotics to play. Any chance there? For now, I am pretty content with WinAmp oldsk00l plug-in. Not in the least case because that is my main player anyway.
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I think that one didn't come out too well
Awe, I liked it.

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Did you do the comparison btw?
Nope. Just an initial non scientific by ear test.

Windows XP SP3, 32-bit
Sound Blaster Live PCI card.
Deliplayer 2.50b (Stereo join @ 50%, oversampled, click filtering off, equaliser off)
WinAMP 5.58
SurfSmurf Oldskool plugin 0.88 (Stereo join @ 50%, emulated Amiga Filter)

I felt that playing cust.hiscore there was a slight perceptible difference starting at time 1.42 in the handling of volumes on the main instrument. Slight, but noticable. Need to record them, compare. Check against a real Amiga. Perhaps try the non-cust versions in Deliplayer with the right ron klaren driver.
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Thanks for feedback alexh.

Well, I went back to XP and and didn't hesitate to install Deliplayer1.3 again. Plays everything beautifully out of the box and is here to stay. It's 9am saturday morning, amiga music is playing so freak is ON

http://i56.tinypic.com/qoakpg.jpg

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Cool, must have been a Windows 7 thing?
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Old 07 October 2010, 18:38   #33
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Deliplayer doesn't work in Windows7, although I'm not sure why anyone would want it. The UI is so horribly unusable, you'd be better off just running WinUAE with a player loaded in there.
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Cool, must have been a Windows 7 thing?
Not sure but I have to say that it seems to sound better. There still is the typical Amiga seperation like you said: 2 channels left 2 channels right but somehow less annoying. I don't know if I am imagining things. Hopefully bLAZER will update his player to play all the formats DP does. (Hint hint!)

I am 99% sure that DP1.3 does work in Windows 7 btw.
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Anything apart from UADE absolutely sucks. Deliplayer is an ugly buggy piece of shit.
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Old 23 October 2010, 23:10   #36
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Haha, it definitely looks dodgy compared to what it could be. Actually I am starting to catch up on things and started using XMPlay for all music played. It does ASIO and it definitely sounds a lot different from DeliPlayer. A more laidback and realistic sound for Amiga tunes.
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Anything apart from UADE absolutely sucks. Deliplayer is an ugly buggy piece of shit.
Compared to what? The default skin is almost identical to the default WinAMP skin.

UADE on Win32 systems is command line only.

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Deliplayer doesn't work in Windows7, although I'm not sure why anyone would want it. The UI is so horribly unusable, you'd be better off just running WinUAE with a player loaded in there.
What? It works just fine on Windows 7 x64.
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