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Old 24 May 2010, 22:59   #1
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Working Natami Prototype

Some impressions of the last Natami developer meeting with a running prototype. Looks promising.

http://www.a1k.org/forum/showpost.ph...38&postcount=1
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Old 24 May 2010, 23:04   #2
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I will be impressed once they activate some of the special features they have been designing above and beyond MiniMig.
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Old 24 May 2010, 23:06   #3
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Thanks for the link, gilgamesh!

Looks promising indeed!
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Old 24 May 2010, 23:19   #4
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However you look at it..

That's a crap cake
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Old 24 May 2010, 23:23   #5
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I like Amiga classic, i like Natami!
i hate PPC,s sorry..
Good luck to Natami.

Edit: http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1&note=20767
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Old 24 May 2010, 23:38   #6
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A party, yet no women. I'm waiting for the hidden Amiga 1200 to pop out
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Old 25 May 2010, 00:02   #7
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womans in to party like this , perhaps ill be destroy all the project
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Old 25 May 2010, 08:43   #8
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Looks promising, indeed. Perhaps this NatAmi project will go somewhere after all.
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However you look at it..

That's a crap cake
Not if it tastes delicious
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Old 25 May 2010, 18:58   #9
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I will be impressed once they activate some of the special features they have been designing above and beyond MiniMig.
I will be impressed is alexh is ever actually impressed with Natami...

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Old 25 May 2010, 23:26   #10
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I've always been impressed with their lead coder Thomas.

I am impressed that they actually made something.

But you have to admit that an FPGA Amiga is not new, MiniMig has been out for a long time now and they have had full access to the source code during this time period.

The MiniMig core now has AGA now, thanks to Jakub, so once again it is catch-up for the NatAmi team.

I don't think their demo was running AGA was it? It certainly wasn't running their 3D core they have been banging on about for years.
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I've always been impressed with their lead coder Thomas.
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Take all the fun out of it with logic and being reasonable!!

Personally, I impress easily.. Just because FPGA has already been done, I'm still impressed that they have done it as well, even tho they aren't first.

Now, just based on price and direction, I don't see myself as a Natami customer.
I'm guessing it will be pretty spendy, and I'm not a huge 3D fan...
I think I'll be much more likely to be in the Minimig AGA group...

But I'm still impressed by Natami's progress, even if it's not done (and even if it never gets there).

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I agree with alexh.

/me turns on his skeptic mode.

Until I see a video, or something showing all the features promised by Gunner, I am not interested.
There was a lot of interesting looking circuit boards though.

There is nothing that shows that they were not running a minimig anyway, hehe.

The AGA minimig does seem exciting though.
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here is a video...

[ Show youtube player ]
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I don't think their demo was running AGA was it? It certainly wasn't running their 3D core they have been banging on about for years.
Showing HAM8 isn't AGA?

NatAmi has a promise of beeing the most powerful Amiga yet.
minimig AGA .. is the only 68000 with AGA? As much as that sounds like a good idea, with tons of fast and chip ram. I still like "the most powerful".

I've been around to get excited by every project that never saw the light of day.. Walker, escom, gateway... (probably as most here). So I'm quite sober in my views. But I have to admit I'm a bit entusiastic about the NatAmi. If it end up in something production, I'll be buying first batch. if it ends up as a pipe dream I'll ultimatly give after and buy a a4000, accelerator and such.

But I'm extremly impressed with people spending so much efford in keeping the scene alive. Both minimig and natami is amazing projects by their own respects
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But I'm extremly impressed with people spending so much efford in keeping the scene alive.
Question is : Which scene? Also a reproduction of a 68060 A4000ish NatAmi isn't really a proof of a 'most powerful Amiga'. Release date was set to summer 2008 IIRC, so seeing a working 'something' now doesn't make me wet my pants tbh Yet most of the additional concepts are yet to be developed and it might easily take a few years till the full features NatAmi is available. Seems like there was a tad too much bragging about a 'Supe-Miggy' at the start of the project.
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I don't think their demo was running AGA was it?
Showing HAM8 isn't AGA?
It was a question not a statement. If they showed AGA then that's cool. They are not first but still cool.

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minimig AGA .. is the only 68000 with AGA?
You are confusing the MiniMig v1.1 PCB (which has a hard 68000) with the MiniMig core. Other PCB's could be made _today_ which could be programmed with MiniMig AGA and use any 680x0 CPU. MikeJ's Replay for example.

I'm not taking anything away from what the NatAmi guys have done. Just wondering where the extra stuff is

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@lolafg, Cheers for the video link.

Images may speak 1000 words, but video's have 1000's of images hehe.

Flashback seemed smooth, compared to Stunt car racer anyway.

Is more promising then the screenies!

I take my "could be minimig" comment back.
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Old 27 May 2010, 15:14   #18
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I will impressed when 060 games will run on it and when amigaos4.1 will run on it too... (why not a amiga os4.1 port for the natami)
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I will impressed when 060 games will run on it and when amigaos4.1 will run on it too...
OS 4.1 doesn't even run on a PPC equipped classic Amiga. Guess they aim at 3.9 for now? Maybe someone can point me to a OS discussion for NatAmi.
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OS 4.1 doesn't even run on a PPC equipped classic Amiga. Guess they aim at 3.9 for now? Maybe someone can point me to a OS discussion for NatAmi.
You'd really read it?
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