PFS3 is soon to become FREE and opensource

[wawa]

gulliver, what is this version of moovid again? the author has confirmed on the a1k forum that it isnt free and the development will be continuued as soon he has his 4000er up and running again.

[Bloodwych]

This will be great for the ClassicWB packs.

[killergorilla]

It certainly will be

[Zetr0]

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

This will be great for the ClassicWB packs.

could this be installed by default ?

i.e. the HDF itself ?

[prowler]

Originally Posted by alexh

Can I recommend that he send floppy disks to someone in his own country for recovery? I thought that international Parcels are routinely x-ray'd these days. Dunno but I heard stories this can wipe disks?

bLAZER sent me a disk from Sweden to the UK for imaging and there were no problems with it when it arrived here!

[whiteb]

How are we doing on this front ?

[gulliver]

No news from the author. I will email him today, to see where he is at.

[whiteb]

Originally Posted by gulliver

No news from the author. I will email him today, to see where he is at.

Cool, thanks for that, I was more aiming at what do we do with PFS in the time being ?

The non registered version nags at you, is there a version we can use or is that why we are waiting on the source ?

Just wondering which version I can use right now on my CF card.

[cosmicfrog]

still twiddling my er twiddley bits here

any news

[gulliver]

No replies from the author yet

[rare_j]

We've been after this for years
Couple more week wont hurt...

[gulliver]

I got a progress report. Email follows. But before posting it, he mentions that he needs a working 100MB zip drive to recover some files. Does anybody have one to send him for free (he lives in Holland)?
_______________________________________________________________

From:
"Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com>
Hi Ignacio,

First thing is the binary release on aminet. You can expect that soon
enough. Source code release just needs some time. I do have the
sources. But you should realize PFS3 is a complex piece of software
and this includes the build. I cannot throw it in the public domain
just as it is, it has to be bundled in a nice package with clear
instructions.

To do that I first have to create a working build environment myself,
and I am not quite there yet. I have the sources. I have a licensed
copy of WinUAE. The compiler, SAS C, I had on original floppy disk,
but I downloaded it already (I do have a license).

I appreciate the help offered and I might need some. I am not sure
about the license to use. All I really want is credit whenever someone
uses any of it - that is I have to be mentioned and I want to be
informed about it.

Also, do you know someone in the possession of a working 100MB zip
drive? I have some pfs-formatted zip disks that may have some useful
stuff on it.

Best regards,

Michiel Pelt
_______________________________________________________________

So anyone has a zip drive to give away for free To Michiel?

[mihcael]

I have zip drive i dont use, but im in Australia! I'll be a last resort for providing drive?

[ma693541]

I have a SCSI 250 MB Zip drive if that would help. I live in Norway.

[gulliver]

Thank you guys!
There is already a user at amiga.org that lives in the Netherlands, he is already contacting Michiel to send him a zip drive.

[cosmicfrog]

Great News

Now where do I get a licensed copy of WinUAE

hehehehhehehe

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

Great News

Now where do I get a licensed copy of WinUAE

hehehehhehehe

He probably meant he got Amiga Forever.

[Shadowfire]

Excellent. I think I'll do a few tests once we have confirmation and it gets posted to FTP. I've been able to boot into a single 55GB partition on my hard disk controller on the 68030, but have had to skip 68000 testing since SFS didn't handle that too well.

[HenryCase]

Originally Posted by gulliver

I appreciate the help offered and I might need some. I am not sure
about the license to use. All I really want is credit whenever someone
uses any of it - that is I have to be mentioned and I want to be
informed about it.

A BSD license is the closest I can think of to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses

I think many people would be interested in seeing the plans for PFS4, even just from a historical perspective. If these plans were released too, where would be a good place to host them?

[gulliver]

Originally Posted by HenryCase

A BSD license is the closest I can think of to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses

I think many people would be interested in seeing the plans for PFS4, even just from a historical perspective. If these plans were released too, where would be a good place to host them?

Thank you, I will send Michiel that license suggestion. I will also ask him about PFS4 (I have no problems to host files and information on my website).

[gulliver]

Okay, here is an email from Michiel I have just received regarding PFS4

__________________________________________________________________


From:
"Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com>
> On the other hand, many people are intrigued by your PFS4. Do you have at least a draft of what was supposed to feature? It will be interesting to have any information regarding this filesystem.

PFS3 was a very modern and advanced filesystem for its time, not only
looking at the Amiga market, but at filesystems in general. Over the
years many of the ideas found in PFS3 have been incorporated in other
filesystems. PFS3 was one of the first to be atomic, now more have
this feature. Rollover files still seem to be unique to PFS3.

PFS3 was based on the original shareware PFS which was designed as a
floppy filesystem. A lot of changes have been made to make PFS work on
ever larger harddisks and the result was PFS3 which works pretty well.
The most recent Linux filesystems like Reiser4 surpass it though, but
there is one area where PFS3 remains king: the floppy or other
relatively small removable disks like ZIP, what it was originally
designed to work on.

PFS4 is a new design from the ground up. It takes the good things from
PFS3 and adds new ideas inspired by scientific papers and open source
filesystems like Reiser. Most notable improvements compared to PFS3
are
- B+ tree for directory structure which improves scalability and
handling of large directories.
- Redesign of the atomic commit feature.
- Automatic grouping of small files which results in both more
storagespace and better performance.
- Builtin automatic defragmentation and improved fragmentation prevention.

Note that PFS4 only exists on paper.

Best regards,

Michiel Pelt
________________________________________________________________

[alexh]

Are we any closer to a PFS3 binary release (with key if necessary) via Aminet?

Source code is nice 'n' all but most of us just want to try this with our 68000 based A600's

[gulliver]

..."First thing is the binary release on aminet. You can expect that soon
enough."... By Michiel Pelt on the 4th May 2010

How soon is "soon enough", I dont know

[Charlie]

'Two more weeks...'

Yes, naugthy but I couldn't resist.

On a more sensible note:
If Michiel Pelt is happy to release PFS3 in any form at any time, however long it takes to do so, that's really generous of him and I appreciate his kindness.

[cosmicfrog]

yep we all appreciate the generosity that Michiel is giveing us

but waiting sucks

[th4t1guy]

Anyone know if PFS3 is readable in linux?

[Npl]

Originally Posted by th4t1guy

Anyone know if PFS3 is readable in linux?

no, maybe you can access it through an "Amiga" within UAE, atleast I could read my (PSF3) HDDs under WinUAE that way. if its opensourced that could change.

And regarding license again, zlib fits closely, just edit the first statement to read "required" instead of "appreciated".

[gulliver]

Thanks. I already forwarded your suggestion to Michiel Pelt.

[gulliver]

Just to keep you all updated. AndreasM, the guy in charge of the Amiga Future magazine, asked me for the email of Michiel Pelt, which I gladly gave him.

What follows is a brief email update from Michiel:


From:
"Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com>

Ignacio,

The full PFS3 will be available on the Amiga Future cover disk as is.
This will consist of the files directly taken from the original CD.

Best regards

Michiel Pelt
author of PFS3

[killergorilla]

So is this the only release of it?

[whiteb]

Originally Posted by gulliver

Just to keep you all updated. AndreasM, the guy in charge of the Amiga Future magazine, asked me for the email of Michiel Pelt, which I gladly gave him.

What follows is a brief email update from Michiel:


From:
"Michiel Pelt" <xxx@gmail.com>
Add sender to Contacts
To:
"Ignacio" <xxx@yahoo.com>

Ignacio,

The full PFS3 will be available on the Amiga Future cover disk as is.
This will consist of the files directly taken from the original CD.

Best regards

Michiel Pelt
author of PFS3

YOU GOT TO BE JOKING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!

A cover disk of a Magazine I cant get (Here in Australia), who's website is ONLY in German ????????.

Let me tell you this, Amiga's exist outside of Germany you know ! (ARE YOU LISTENING A1K.org ????).

Wanders off swearing in as many languages as I remember........

And to say more........, We have been (Well you have been) pushing for the open release to the COMMUNITY, and the first person to come along, Andreas, get it for the Magazine Coverdisk.........

Swears a lot more.

[alexh]

I think Michiel previous words are a sign it is ok to make backups. Anyone got said PS3 CD? I seem to have misplaced mine

[T_hairy_bootson]

So Gulliver did all the legwork and now AndreasM swoops in and is going to make a profit from it.

Wow... I am just speechless...

[mihcael]

THB signature seems somehow relevant??

Surely?? it will be freely distrubutable once people get it off the coverdisks? (coverdisk... isnt that one of those things you have to extract out to 3 floppies usings DMS that was all the rage back ion the 90's)

[whiteb]

Originally Posted by mihcael

THB signature seems somehow relevant??

Surely?? it will be freely distrubutable once people get it off the coverdisks? (coverdisk... isnt that one of those things you have to extract out to 3 floppies usings DMS that was all the rage back ion the 90's)

Well I thought the author wanted the CD structure preserved (The CD you can buy, of PFS3).

In any event, the emails to Gulliver said he "Intends to release the binary to Aminet first", Then Gulliver says "AndreasM emailed me for the Author's Email address, So I gave it", and lastly "The Author emailed me back, its going to appear on AF coverdisk"

Gulliver you PLONKER !!!!!!!!!!!, You could have waited till Pelt released the binary to Aminet, now we have to wait for someone to BUY the magazine and sneak it out to the rest of us. (Unless it is a SIMULTANEOUS Aminet/AF release), I wonder if PELT even knows that AF is a COMMERCIAL enterprise, Also makes you wonder if AndreasM falsely told him it was a FREE magazine to get the OK (Going by his history). Infact, its AU$20 an issue, or (Around AU$100 for a year sub for me)

[cosmicfrog]

indeed it`s sad that a certain person has got his grub fingers in the pie

poor gulliver sometimes when you try to do the right thing it can all go pear shape

[daxb]

Originally Posted by whiteb

A cover disk of a Magazine I cant get (Here in Australia), who's website is ONLY in German ????????.

In worst case. The mag is available in german and english. It is possible to order a single one over their websites.

[killergorilla]

If it seriously is only available by AF then that is utter dogshit.

[rare_j]

I can't believe that scumbag has got involved.

[TheCyberDruid]

Bwahahahahahaha AndreasM strikes again! Nice one
Seriously that made my day guys gulliver credulously handed the email over and now you all get an Amiga Future exclusive release