OT Moderators' Announcement

prowler · 11 February 2010, 22:42

The OT moderators, DemonHellraiser and prowler, wish to express our thanks and congratulations to EAB members on creating a varied and interesting set of topics for discussion in these forums during the four months since we were appointed. A group of members recently collaborating on the EAB Gaming Server was particularly successful.

It has been a pleasure to see how the forums have developed since their reorganization and the increasing number of members who are becoming regularly involved. We'd like to ensure that OT remains an enlightening and entertaining section of EAB and that everyone (remember: membership of this board includes children as well) has the opportunity to build on that achievement.

With this in mind, we would like to point out that we have no objection to good, clean fun, but there are still indications that some members wish to participate in discussion of topics which were thought to have been eradicated when the OT-Stupidity forum was closed, and those threads affected have been and will be moderated accordingly.

Other subjects that have arisen, but which are not considered suitable for general discussion here include moderation ethos, sexual perversion and positive aspects of piracy.

Unresolved argument and the use of gratuitous innuendo of a kind which is desrespectful or alludes to sexual orientation will always be removed if it escalates to the point where it diverts the thread from the topic under discussion. Thoughts of a more personal nature should be confined to PMs.

Finally, it has to be said that the good aspects of the OT forums have by far outweighed the bad in these last four months, so we would like to say a huge "Well Done!" to everyone who has participated.

Demonhellraiser and prowler

gimbal · 12 February 2010, 09:37

okay okay, I'll drop the cross-dressing jokes.

Paul_s · 12 February 2010, 10:26

The EAB massive, which includes a varied selection of cross-dressers & sexually perverted individuals (both in hardware and software), wish to express our thanks and congratulations to EAB moderators on annoucing that Gimbal will be reformed using the latest psychological methods to curb his cross dressing fetish.

It has been a pleasure to see him wearing a dress and the forums have developed since their reorganization and the increasing number of members who are becoming regularly involved. We'd like to ensure that OT remains an enlightening and entertaining section of EAB and that everyone has the opportunity to build on that achievement of causing mayhem (ok I'm joking!)

With this in mind, we would like to point out that we have no objection to moderation. Anyone who discusses the Atari ST for instance should be nuked on sight.

Perverted thoughts of a more personal nature should be confined to your partner or Gimbal.

The EAB collective.

gimbal · 12 February 2010, 11:39

is it still allowed to express love for a fellow forum member? If so: Paul_s, you are too kind

cosmicfrog · 12 February 2010, 15:17

so if I was to ask what the moderation ethos of this fourm is I`d me shot down in flames ??

prowler · 12 February 2010, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfrog

so if I was to ask what the moderation ethos of this fourm is I`d me shot down in flames ??

No, you'd just be referred here and then back here.

@gimbal and paul_s:
Your posts will be allowed to stand for a while to give everyone a chance to see them, and then they will be deleted to prevent this thread becoming bloated.

gimbal · 13 February 2010, 13:59

It will not become bloated, most of the people who could cause bloat are already scared away and/or banned. Leave Paul_s and me alone, we're a dying breed of tongue-in-cheek posters that actually obey the rules in stead of harping on about it.

skateblind · 13 February 2010, 16:15

Some people just love to argue the point. :/

13 February 2010, 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by skateblind

Some people just love to argue the point. :/

some peoples love to lick mods asses
kill seals kill and putin forever

xoen elite the cunt stop bitchin

skateblind · 13 February 2010, 16:42

Like a moth to a flame.

killergorilla · 13 February 2010, 17:11

Burnt by desire.

cosmicfrog · 13 February 2010, 19:09

just playing devil`s advocate but how are we sposed to find out if your morals are ok if we cannot talk about them ?

I personally get a tingly feeling when the mods all close ranks and we arn`t allowed to talk about them

Mick_AKA · 15 February 2010, 00:57

What the hell has happened to EAB

gimbal · 15 February 2010, 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick_AKA

What the hell has happened to EAB

that's whay Dizzy thought too, and he ain't coming back this time

Smiley · 03 June 2010, 01:33

To be honest, all the posts concerning sexual orientation were becoming a little too much. Obviously it was intended as light hearted humour but I find it hard to believe people of 30+ years of age were constantly posting images of transgendered peoples trying to make some crap jokes about them and others.

It was infantile, pointless, humourless and possibly insulting to certain people. Then when moderators stepped in to clean it all up, members of the forum cried and wailed like babies. It is strange to think these are adult men with families etc.

I really didn't see the appeal of it all. Thanks to the mods for creating a normal OT section

gimbal · 03 June 2010, 13:49

Adults are allowed to be light minded, giddy and infantile. There is a place for everyone in this world, you shouldn't be put into a cubicle because of what you do, believe or how you behave. In fact it is quite the opposite of adult behavior to do so, IMO. It is more the realm of teens.

Nostalgeek · 03 June 2010, 14:08

While I can agree it may have been "too much" at times, I'm with Gimby, grown-ups should be able to let other people enjoy their way of having fun without feeling the need to judge them. There was an OT-Stupidity section, the name said it all, but people felt the need to impose their own definition of stupidity to the people that actually enjoyed that area of the board.

The conclusion of this whole situation for me is:

- Loss of many interesting, friendly and funny members
- An OT section that is basically dead compared to what it used to be. Not even 1/10th the activity, nor 1/10th the fun.

But hey, let's not make this start all over again. Some mods did what they thought they had to do, some people that didn't agree left, and some other stayed and accepted the new deal, and I'm one of them.

Muzkat · 03 June 2010, 14:16

What annoyed me more was that one small group of individuals decided what was best for all of the EAB. That was more offensive than anything that was ever posted in OTS.

killergorilla · 03 June 2010, 14:21

The moderators decided what was best for EAB.

It's what they do.

NewDeli · 03 June 2010, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

It's what they do.

Do you mean :
It's what they do best ?
I would go with :
They did as well as they could, with a not so perfect timing may be, but hey, now that it's done...

killergorilla · 03 June 2010, 14:50

No, I meant:

It's their job.
They are there to do their job.
They did it.

TCD · 03 June 2010, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewDeli

They did as well as they could, with a not so perfect timing may be, but hey, now that it's done...

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

The moderators decided what was best for EAB.

It's what they do.

They decide what's best for EAB. All the time. As they did when they closed OTS. That's what he meant.

Muzkat · 03 June 2010, 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

The moderators decided what was best for EAB.

It's what they do.

No, a small group of individuals - some mods, and some not - decided they didn't like OTS, and they took matters into their own hands.

They thought that, just because the humour there didn't suit them, they'd bring the entire place down. It was pathetic and infantile.

The mods then had to react.

killergorilla · 03 June 2010, 15:23

I'm sure the mods who make decisions around here are big enough to make their own choices.

They aren't going to do something that, as a group, they don't want to do.

A group decision was made, they acted on it.

And in their own admission, it had been a long time coming.

bippym · 03 June 2010, 16:34

WHy has this risen it's ugly head again!

Let me simplify this. If you don't like the lack of a more varied OTS section.. Well you know where the "log-out" button is.

The decision has been made, we are sticking by it and there are plenty of forums out there that allow this!

Enough said!

DH · 03 June 2010, 16:40

I am sure everyone here has an understanding of common sense and common decency, although even then, there is always going to be differences in how people perceive what is right and what is wrong. After all, we are catering for a global audience with many different cultures and attitudes.

This argument is ongoing and is something that will never end tbh, however, mods and GM's are in place to make decisions for the majority, that's what we are here for, similar to your supervisor at work, to make educated decisions based on any given situations. Whether a decision is right or wrong, the decision has been made in the best interests of EAB and that should be enough to keep everybody happy. Next step, the boss (RCK), makes the final decision based on everything, his decision is final and is not arguable.

At the end of the day, the decision was made to eliminate OTS altogether and replace it with something a little more decent and welcoming to EAB's established members and to some of the newer members that have joined since.

Don't condemn EAB's OT for a past decision, let's make it what it is now, and stop reliving the past.

NewDeli · 03 June 2010, 17:11

That would make a pretty geeky insult if you think about it :
"Why don't you just log off !"

DH · 03 June 2010, 17:24

The purpose of this thread was to praise our members for their continual support of the new OT section, not to argue the toss about why, when and what happened to the old OT. Anyone who wishes to do that should start their own disapproval and non-appreciation society thread in OT-General.....

And on that note, thread closed!!!

11 February 2010, 22:42	#1
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 8,723	OT Moderators' Announcement The OT moderators, DemonHellraiser and prowler, wish to express our thanks and congratulations to EAB members on creating a varied and interesting set of topics for discussion in these forums during the four months since we were appointed. A group of members recently collaborating on the EAB Gaming Server was particularly successful. It has been a pleasure to see how the forums have developed since their reorganization and the increasing number of members who are becoming regularly involved. We'd like to ensure that OT remains an enlightening and entertaining section of EAB and that everyone (remember: membership of this board includes children as well) has the opportunity to build on that achievement. With this in mind, we would like to point out that we have no objection to good, clean fun, but there are still indications that some members wish to participate in discussion of topics which were thought to have been eradicated when the OT-Stupidity forum was closed, and those threads affected have been and will be moderated accordingly. Other subjects that have arisen, but which are not considered suitable for general discussion here include moderation ethos, sexual perversion and positive aspects of piracy. Unresolved argument and the use of gratuitous innuendo of a kind which is desrespectful or alludes to sexual orientation will always be removed if it escalates to the point where it diverts the thread from the topic under discussion. Thoughts of a more personal nature should be confined to PMs. Finally, it has to be said that the good aspects of the OT forums have by far outweighed the bad in these last four months, so we would like to say a huge "Well Done!" to everyone who has participated. Demonhellraiser and prowler Last edited by DH; 05 December 2012 at 14:46. Reason: Updated Our Avatars

12 February 2010, 09:37	#2
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 31 Posts: 2,216	okay okay, I'll drop the cross-dressing jokes. __________________ Error: signature could not be parsed.

12 February 2010, 10:26	#3
Paul_s Stuck in 1985 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 35 Posts: 2,842	The EAB massive, which includes a varied selection of cross-dressers & sexually perverted individuals (both in hardware and software), wish to express our thanks and congratulations to EAB moderators on annoucing that Gimbal will be reformed using the latest psychological methods to curb his cross dressing fetish. It has been a pleasure to see him wearing a dress and the forums have developed since their reorganization and the increasing number of members who are becoming regularly involved. We'd like to ensure that OT remains an enlightening and entertaining section of EAB and that everyone has the opportunity to build on that achievement of causing mayhem (ok I'm joking!) With this in mind, we would like to point out that we have no objection to moderation. Anyone who discusses the Atari ST for instance should be nuked on sight. Perverted thoughts of a more personal nature should be confined to your partner or Gimbal. The EAB collective. __________________ Memotech MX512 with optional Kelly LeBrock barbie doll generator...

12 February 2010, 11:39	#4
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 31 Posts: 2,216	is it still allowed to express love for a fellow forum member? If so: Paul_s, you are too kind __________________ Error: signature could not be parsed.

12 February 2010, 15:17	#5
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 45 Posts: 3,552	so if I was to ask what the moderation ethos of this fourm is I`d me shot down in flames ?? __________________ When in dought RIBBIT .... If it dos`t work hit it with a hammer, if that dos`t work get a bigger hammer.......... Have U scen my sanity Pill`s . . . . . . . . . . . . . . // *This Years Software on Last Years Hardware \\//-- Amiga* --**

13 February 2010, 13:59	#7
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 31 Posts: 2,216	It will not become bloated, most of the people who could cause bloat are already scared away and/or banned. Leave Paul_s and me alone, we're a dying breed of tongue-in-cheek posters that actually obey the rules in stead of harping on about it. __________________ Error: signature could not be parsed.

13 February 2010, 16:15	#8
skateblind Village Idiot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK, England Age: 27 Posts: 578	Some people just love to argue the point. :/ __________________ http://www.ultimateamiga.com/ - Bring cake or beer. http://amos.pspuae.com Amos Factory, for all your Amos needs!

13 February 2010, 16:42	#10
skateblind Village Idiot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK, England Age: 27 Posts: 578	Like a moth to a flame. __________________ http://www.ultimateamiga.com/ - Bring cake or beer. http://amos.pspuae.com Amos Factory, for all your Amos needs!

13 February 2010, 17:11	#11
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Burnt by desire. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

13 February 2010, 19:09	#12
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 45 Posts: 3,552	just playing devil`s advocate but how are we sposed to find out if your morals are ok if we cannot talk about them ? I personally get a tingly feeling when the mods all close ranks and we arn`t allowed to talk about them __________________ When in dought RIBBIT .... If it dos`t work hit it with a hammer, if that dos`t work get a bigger hammer.......... Have U scen my sanity Pill`s . . . . . . . . . . . . . . // *This Years Software on Last Years Hardware \\//-- Amiga* --**

15 February 2010, 00:57	#13
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,086	What the hell has happened to EAB

03 June 2010, 01:33	#15
Smiley Amiga-less! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,346	To be honest, all the posts concerning sexual orientation were becoming a little too much. Obviously it was intended as light hearted humour but I find it hard to believe people of 30+ years of age were constantly posting images of transgendered peoples trying to make some crap jokes about them and others. It was infantile, pointless, humourless and possibly insulting to certain people. Then when moderators stepped in to clean it all up, members of the forum cried and wailed like babies. It is strange to think these are adult men with families etc. I really didn't see the appeal of it all. Thanks to the mods for creating a normal OT section

03 June 2010, 13:49	#16
gimbal cheeky scoundrel Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Spijkenisse/Netherlands Age: 31 Posts: 2,216	Adults are allowed to be light minded, giddy and infantile. There is a place for everyone in this world, you shouldn't be put into a cubicle because of what you do, believe or how you behave. In fact it is quite the opposite of adult behavior to do so, IMO. It is more the realm of teens. __________________ Error: signature could not be parsed.

03 June 2010, 14:08	#17
Nostalgeek OT Whore Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Switzerland Age: 30 Posts: 279	While I can agree it may have been "too much" at times, I'm with Gimby, grown-ups should be able to let other people enjoy their way of having fun without feeling the need to judge them. There was an OT-Stupidity section, the name said it all, but people felt the need to impose their own definition of stupidity to the people that actually enjoyed that area of the board. The conclusion of this whole situation for me is: - Loss of many interesting, friendly and funny members - An OT section that is basically dead compared to what it used to be. Not even 1/10th the activity, nor 1/10th the fun. But hey, let's not make this start all over again. Some mods did what they thought they had to do, some people that didn't agree left, and some other stayed and accepted the new deal, and I'm one of them.

03 June 2010, 14:16	#18
Muzkat Into the Wonderful Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Delta Quadrant Age: 31 Posts: 1,138	What annoyed me more was that one small group of individuals decided what was best for all of the EAB. That was more offensive than anything that was ever posted in OTS.

03 June 2010, 14:21	#19
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	The moderators decided what was best for EAB. It's what they do. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

03 June 2010, 14:50	#21
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	No, I meant: It's their job. They are there to do their job. They did it. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

03 June 2010, 15:23	#24
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	I'm sure the mods who make decisions around here are big enough to make their own choices. They aren't going to do something that, as a group, they don't want to do. A group decision was made, they acted on it. And in their own admission, it had been a long time coming. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

03 June 2010, 16:34	#25
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,141	WHy has this risen it's ugly head again! Let me simplify this. If you don't like the lack of a more varied OTS section.. Well you know where the "log-out" button is. The decision has been made, we are sticking by it and there are plenty of forums out there that allow this! Enough said! __________________ Little Puddings Cakes - My fiancées hobby

03 June 2010, 16:40	#26
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 3,416	I am sure everyone here has an understanding of common sense and common decency, although even then, there is always going to be differences in how people perceive what is right and what is wrong. After all, we are catering for a global audience with many different cultures and attitudes. This argument is ongoing and is something that will never end tbh, however, mods and GM's are in place to make decisions for the majority, that's what we are here for, similar to your supervisor at work, to make educated decisions based on any given situations. Whether a decision is right or wrong, the decision has been made in the best interests of EAB and that should be enough to keep everybody happy. Next step, the boss (RCK), makes the final decision based on everything, his decision is final and is not arguable. At the end of the day, the decision was made to eliminate OTS altogether and replace it with something a little more decent and welcoming to EAB's established members and to some of the newer members that have joined since. Don't condemn EAB's OT for a past decision, let's make it what it is now, and stop reliving the past. __________________ . . . . . . CiA FORUM . . . . . .

03 June 2010, 17:11	#27
NewDeli Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paris / FRANCE Age: 39 Posts: 1,248	That would make a pretty geeky insult if you think about it : "Why don't you just log off !"

03 June 2010, 17:24	#28
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 3,416	The purpose of this thread was to praise our members for their continual support of the new OT section, not to argue the toss about why, when and what happened to the old OT. Anyone who wishes to do that should start their own disapproval and non-appreciation society thread in OT-General..... And on that note, thread closed!!! __________________ . . . . . . CiA FORUM . . . . . .

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