Did I make a stupid purchase?

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 15:32

I bought this item on ebay (Amiga 1200/30 32 meg ram board+40mhz) last night thinking that it was an 030 acellerator as it has 32Mb RAM where the 1200 can only address 8Mb with the 020, also why would a RAM board have a 40Mhz crystal?.. Was I right - or have I just made a foolish purchase? (I was very drunk at the time)

Peter · 06 June 2009, 15:37

It must be an 030 accelerator card... see if you can find out any other details from the seller about the card...a model number for example... it could be an Elbox card.

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 15:42

I hope so... It was a good price if it is

meega · 06 June 2009, 15:59

What is on the other side of the board?

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 16:02

I honestly don't know! I only bought it yesterday on impulse.. It will arrive by the end of the week I think!

Photon · 06 June 2009, 16:12

And he asks us? Just ask the seller!?? hehe

It looks to me as if you have a 68030 on the underside, see solderpattern. Or at least a socket for one

Looks like an accelerator board to me.

DJBase · 06 June 2009, 16:15

Its an Apollo 1230 Turbo Mk3 so yes, its a 68030 accelerator. http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/apollo1230mk3

fc.studio · 06 June 2009, 16:17

In my opinion it's the Elbox 1230-II:

http://www.amiga-resistance.info/bbo...944&artlang=de

Crystal is for speed of optional FPU.

Zetr0 · 06 June 2009, 16:20

@Rabbit80

Its an Apollo 030 Mk3, your safe.... it can handle upto 64MB of ram over the two Simm Ports

heres a hot linkie

A damn fine card and easly over-clockable to 50mhz

for just over £80 including delivery i would say thats a bargain at todays prices

alas i noted theres no FPU (not that this is a whole loss) but for £10 + a couple of quid postage heres an 68882

see.... i am just to good to you

congrats on your drunken purchase.

[edit]
DJBase beat me too it... lol good show sir.... btw the card you bought is the 40mhz version *there is a 50mhz version that has a PGA 030*

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 16:26

Many thanks for your help

I'm pretty happy with my drunken purchase

fc.studio · 06 June 2009, 16:35

@DJBase, @Zetro
You are right about the Apollo... it seems exactly the Winner 1230 version, coming from Act/Apollo/Elbox family.

Zetr0 · 06 June 2009, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit80

Many thanks for your help

I'm pretty happy with my drunken purchase

you should be, and for about £5 on Amigakit you can add the second simm port so you can have 64MB of ram, also Amigakit sell 50mhz Osc (14pin DIL) for about £5 too so whoot

if you are taking the QFP030 upto 50 though, I would suggest a cooling heatsink, one from those chipset or memory heatsinks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc.studio

@DJBase, @Zetro
You are right about the Apollo... it seems exactly the Winner 1230 version, coming from Act/Apollo/Elbox family.

indeed, it would seem that ACT / Elbox kinda got it on me thinks LOL

Rabbit80 · 06 June 2009, 16:52

Alas - I have no more money to spend on Amiga this month... So all upgrades like FPU, Osc, etc can now wait till payday

Still - it is by far the cheapest I have seen one of these boards go for recently!

DH · 06 June 2009, 16:55

Maybe all your purchases should be done whilst intoxicated. Looks like you can find the bargain of the month that way. Nice purchase mate! You make me feel jealous

Think I'll try that tonight, I may be able to purchase a fully working A1200 for 10p

Bloodwych · 06 June 2009, 17:00

It clearly says 1200/30 upgrade in the description, plus shows an accelerator in the pics so I'm not sure why you were confused.

Great purchase.

Will be even better with a ClassicWB.

mr.vince · 06 June 2009, 21:31

I know the seller - Tony - and have bought several games from him. Always well wrapped, good stuff. I think you made a good purchase.

AmigaFriend · 06 June 2009, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Great purchase.

Will be even better with a ClassicWB.

Of course it will!

prowler · 06 June 2009, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Maybe all your purchases should be done whilst intoxicated. Looks like you can find the bargain of the month that way. Nice purchase mate!

Think I'll try that tonight, I may be able to purchase a fully working A1200 for 10p

Why so pessimistic, mate?

You'll probably get it for free!

dkovacs · 13 June 2009, 15:30

I don't think you made a stupid purchase - it will definitely speed up your Amiga. I bought a DKB Cobra (68030) and love the thing - I have a 64MB SIMM on it, works like a charm. It maps it properly so you can still use PCMCIA (I have an ethernet card connected to mine). And remember, all the best ebay purchases ever made have been made after a few pints of beer.

Rabbit80 · 13 June 2009, 18:35

As it turns out - it WAS a good purchase.. I am more than happy with it, and the price was good too!

I had to short the WAIT jumper to make it work correctly - I gather that this slows the RAM access down a touch - how much performance am I losing due to this? I'm also going to put a 50MHz crystal on it to replace the 40MHz one - but not for a week or two yet!

exoticaga · 13 June 2009, 20:14

Had one many moons ago, on a 1200. I found this helped any problems.

Mine had also scsi bit, which was connected to a squirrel. That with memory was a tight fit on the board. Card seemed heavy i remember when fully loaded.

Trapdoor would never shut, and would be very bent if it did. Had to use rubber feet on the board to the desk top keep it aligned and in position for the amiga. And small surface rubber feet on the amiga to stop both from sliding. With the trapdoor always off let the heat escape, the card did get hot.

Maybe you can offer a service here, where others pay for you to get drunk. then you bid on their behalf for what they need.

Rabbit80 · 13 June 2009, 22:30

exoticaga · 14 June 2009, 17:07

Actualy it may not been attached to a squirrel, i forget many moons ago. Maybe squirrel connected to the pcmia and i used direct scsi conection to scsi cdrw and scsi 3.5" hd, actualy that sounds more like it

alexh · 14 June 2009, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabbit80

the price was good too!

Good value for money. Not overly expensive, not dirt cheap.

Other 030 accelerators can be found cheaper but they tend to be 24-bit version (which have a maximum of 8Mbytes RAM and conflict with PCMCIA)

exoticaga · 16 June 2009, 00:09

btw Rabbit are you a one drink-drunk person, would help if you are.

06 June 2009, 15:32	#1
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 32 Posts: 637	Did I make a stupid purchase? I bought this item on ebay (Amiga 1200/30 32 meg ram board+40mhz) last night thinking that it was an 030 acellerator as it has 32Mb RAM where the 1200 can only address 8Mb with the 020, also why would a RAM board have a 40Mhz crystal?.. Was I right - or have I just made a foolish purchase? (I was very drunk at the time) __________________ "The indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced ... at the English Court on Friday last ... It is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs, and close compressure of the bodies ... to see that it is far indeed removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females." - The Times of London, 1816 __________________________________________ My websites: www.easyeyeball.co.uk; www.scanners-gb.co.uk

06 June 2009, 15:37	#2
Peter Unemployed & Lovin' it Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Garden of England Age: 44 Posts: 2,493	It must be an 030 accelerator card... see if you can find out any other details from the seller about the card...a model number for example... it could be an Elbox card. __________________ Help me find the Amiga game called "Scavenge" Last edited by Peter; 06 June 2009 at 15:44.

06 June 2009, 15:42	#3
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 32 Posts: 637	I hope so... It was a good price if it is __________________ "The indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced ... at the English Court on Friday last ... It is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs, and close compressure of the bodies ... to see that it is far indeed removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females." - The Times of London, 1816 __________________________________________ My websites: www.easyeyeball.co.uk; www.scanners-gb.co.uk

06 June 2009, 16:02	#5
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 32 Posts: 637	I honestly don't know! I only bought it yesterday on impulse.. It will arrive by the end of the week I think! __________________ "The indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced ... at the English Court on Friday last ... It is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs, and close compressure of the bodies ... to see that it is far indeed removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females." - The Times of London, 1816 __________________________________________ My websites: www.easyeyeball.co.uk; www.scanners-gb.co.uk

06 June 2009, 16:12	#6
Photon Oldskool Demo Coder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hult / Sweden Age: 41 Posts: 3,674	And he asks us? Just ask the seller!?? hehe It looks to me as if you have a 68030 on the underside, see solderpattern. Or at least a socket for one Looks like an accelerator board to me. __________________ Henrik. Programs Amiga demos, iPhone apps, websites, etc. A1000/512k - A500 2.0/040@28/4M/.5M slowmem/8M/SCSI/CF - A600 portable II 3.1/ACA630/WiFi/CF - 'A1700' 3.1/68060@80/64M/IDE-Fix Express/CF - etc."The difference between PC and Amiga is that 10yo PCs are worth $0. 20yo Amigas are worth a lot, and Amigas that are only 15yo cost a fortune!" If you like Portal 2, try my >> single player and cooperation maps <<

06 June 2009, 15:59	#4
meega Secret Lemonade Drinker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oooh what a feeling yeaaah dancing on the ceiling Posts: 313	What is on the other side of the board?

06 June 2009, 16:15	#7
DJBase Amiga is my Religion Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 446	Its an Apollo 1230 Turbo Mk3 so yes, its a 68030 accelerator. http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/apollo1230mk3 __________________ Commodore A1200HD/40 Blizzard 1260, 64 MB Ram, 32 GB SSD, Indivision AGA, Melody 1200 Pro, Subway USB, Clockport Expander, AmigaOS 3.1 with DOpus Magellan II

06 June 2009, 16:17	#8
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 43 Posts: 799	In my opinion it's the Elbox 1230-II: http://www.amiga-resistance.info/bbo...944&artlang=de Crystal is for speed of optional FPU.

06 June 2009, 16:20	#9
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	@Rabbit80 Its an Apollo 030 Mk3, your safe.... it can handle upto 64MB of ram over the two Simm Ports heres a hot linkie A damn fine card and easly over-clockable to 50mhz for just over £80 including delivery i would say thats a bargain at todays prices alas i noted theres no FPU (not that this is a whole loss) but for £10 + a couple of quid postage heres an 68882 see.... i am just to good to you congrats on your drunken purchase. [edit] DJBase beat me too it... lol good show sir.... btw the card you bought is the 40mhz version there is a 50mhz version that has a PGA 030 __________________ Luscious Linkie Time:- www.AmiBay.com Old Skooler

06 June 2009, 16:26	#10
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 32 Posts: 637	Many thanks for your help I'm pretty happy with my drunken purchase __________________ "The indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced ... at the English Court on Friday last ... It is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs, and close compressure of the bodies ... to see that it is far indeed removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females." - The Times of London, 1816 __________________________________________ My websites: www.easyeyeball.co.uk; www.scanners-gb.co.uk

06 June 2009, 16:35	#11
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 43 Posts: 799	@DJBase, @Zetro You are right about the Apollo... it seems exactly the Winner 1230 version, coming from Act/Apollo/Elbox family.

06 June 2009, 16:52	#13
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 32 Posts: 637	Alas - I have no more money to spend on Amiga this month... So all upgrades like FPU, Osc, etc can now wait till payday Still - it is by far the cheapest I have seen one of these boards go for recently! __________________ "The indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced ... at the English Court on Friday last ... It is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs, and close compressure of the bodies ... to see that it is far indeed removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females." - The Times of London, 1816 __________________________________________ My websites: www.easyeyeball.co.uk; www.scanners-gb.co.uk

06 June 2009, 16:55	#14
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 3,416	Maybe all your purchases should be done whilst intoxicated. Looks like you can find the bargain of the month that way. Nice purchase mate! You make me feel jealous Think I'll try that tonight, I may be able to purchase a fully working A1200 for 10p __________________ . . . . . . CiA FORUM . . . . . . Last edited by DH; 06 June 2009 at 17:16.

06 June 2009, 17:00	#15
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,699	It clearly says 1200/30 upgrade in the description, plus shows an accelerator in the pics so I'm not sure why you were confused. Great purchase. Will be even better with a ClassicWB. __________________ Live Long and Procrastinate A500 Batman Pack Classic Workbench

06 June 2009, 21:31	#16
mr.vince SPS Nose Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hawk's Creek Age: 37 Posts: 1,142	I know the seller - Tony - and have bought several games from him. Always well wrapped, good stuff. I think you made a good purchase.

13 June 2009, 15:30	#19
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 36 Posts: 64	I don't think you made a stupid purchase - it will definitely speed up your Amiga. I bought a DKB Cobra (68030) and love the thing - I have a 64MB SIMM on it, works like a charm. It maps it properly so you can still use PCMCIA (I have an ethernet card connected to mine). And remember, all the best ebay purchases ever made have been made after a few pints of beer.

13 June 2009, 18:35	#20
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 32 Posts: 637	As it turns out - it WAS a good purchase.. I am more than happy with it, and the price was good too! I had to short the WAIT jumper to make it work correctly - I gather that this slows the RAM access down a touch - how much performance am I losing due to this? I'm also going to put a 50MHz crystal on it to replace the 40MHz one - but not for a week or two yet! __________________ "The indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced ... at the English Court on Friday last ... It is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs, and close compressure of the bodies ... to see that it is far indeed removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females." - The Times of London, 1816 __________________________________________ My websites: www.easyeyeball.co.uk; www.scanners-gb.co.uk

13 June 2009, 20:14	#21
exoticaga Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 448	Had one many moons ago, on a 1200. I found this helped any problems. Mine had also scsi bit, which was connected to a squirrel. That with memory was a tight fit on the board. Card seemed heavy i remember when fully loaded. Trapdoor would never shut, and would be very bent if it did. Had to use rubber feet on the board to the desk top keep it aligned and in position for the amiga. And small surface rubber feet on the amiga to stop both from sliding. With the trapdoor always off let the heat escape, the card did get hot. Maybe you can offer a service here, where others pay for you to get drunk. then you bid on their behalf for what they need.

13 June 2009, 22:30	#22
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 32 Posts: 637	__________________ "The indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced ... at the English Court on Friday last ... It is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs, and close compressure of the bodies ... to see that it is far indeed removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females." - The Times of London, 1816 __________________________________________ My websites: www.easyeyeball.co.uk; www.scanners-gb.co.uk

14 June 2009, 17:07	#23
exoticaga Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 448	Actualy it may not been attached to a squirrel, i forget many moons ago. Maybe squirrel connected to the pcmia and i used direct scsi conection to scsi cdrw and scsi 3.5" hd, actualy that sounds more like it

16 June 2009, 00:09	#25
exoticaga Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK Posts: 448	btw Rabbit are you a one drink-drunk person, would help if you are.

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