Choices - Indivision with Pal or NTSC A1200

kipper2k · 08 March 2009, 20:21

Hi all,

is there any benefits between using either a Pal or NTSC A1200 with the indivision (assuming your monitor can correctly display the VGA input ?

Will NTSC and Pal games display correctly on the monitor (centred) and showing the full picture.

Does the A1200 need to bestarted in either Pal/NTSC mode in order to get the desired results ?

Thanks

rkauer · 10 March 2009, 02:30

Not if you are using WHDload. Even on a NTSC Amiga, it's just a matter of edit every game icon and the "PAL" tooltype on it.

Or add the PAL tooltype in the global WHDload prefs.

Akira · 10 March 2009, 04:09

I like native PAL machines, so I'd recommend that.
Sometimes I found no matter what tooltype I put in WHDLoad, some games don't work if I don't boot in the mode they need. Or just override my settings (you can't force NTSC on every game, for example)

NovaCoder · 12 March 2009, 01:52

I guess what he's asking is if the Indivsion will convert both the PAL and NTSC television signals to a common VGA signal in which case it doesn't matter if the game is running in PAL or NTSC.

Akira · 12 March 2009, 04:04

His first question is if one is more recommended than the other

And the answer is simple: no. Choose whichever one you want. Indivision runs with both and converts both modes correctly!

gklinger · 12 March 2009, 05:37

Yet another reason I love my Indivision.

kipper2k · 18 March 2009, 14:57

I settled for the Pal motherboard with the Indivision. it seems that there are more native Pal games (WHDload/floppies) available than NTSC so why not use the same board i am assuming the Indivision was basically built and tested on. The display is awesome on my Samsung T245.

One bad thing is the HP chip Lisa, it does not give a definate snap when fitted and twice it has popped. I'm in the process of finding some double sided sticky spongy tape to try to keep it down.

What are other people using who have this problem ?

NovaCoder · 19 March 2009, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper2k

I settled for the Pal motherboard with the Indivision. it seems that there are more native Pal games (WHDload/floppies) available than NTSC so why not use the same board i am assuming the Indivision was basically built and tested on. The display is awesome on my Samsung T245.

One bad thing is the HP chip Lisa, it does not give a definate snap when fitted and twice it has popped. I'm in the process of finding some double sided sticky spongy tape to try to keep it down.

What are other people using who have this problem ?

This issue has been well documented, see this thread for more details.

kipper2k · 19 March 2009, 03:32

Hi there,

yup, it was actually pre-sanded when i got it, (a week ago) it has been sanded almost down to the pins and it still pops off, so it isnt a 100% fix. Thats why i'm curious to see what other people are doing, whether glueing or some other mens to prevent the popoffs

NovaCoder · 19 March 2009, 05:04

I've actually used super-glue to hold mine down but that was only because it had become a bit loose (caused by repeatedly taking it on and off which seems to push the pins back a little). The first one that I fitted to a different MB stayed put with just a bit of silicon at a couple of fixing points.

08 March 2009, 20:21	#1
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay/Churchill Canada Posts: 1,921	Choices - Indivision with Pal or NTSC A1200 Hi all, is there any benefits between using either a Pal or NTSC A1200 with the indivision (assuming your monitor can correctly display the VGA input ? Will NTSC and Pal games display correctly on the monitor (centred) and showing the full picture. Does the A1200 need to bestarted in either Pal/NTSC mode in order to get the desired results ? Thanks

10 March 2009, 02:30	#2
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 47 Posts: 3,477	Not if you are using WHDload. Even on a NTSC Amiga, it's just a matter of edit every game icon and the "PAL" tooltype on it. Or add the PAL tooltype in the global WHDload prefs. __________________ Amigan since 1989 Known drunk since 1982 (don't know quite well, I was drunk) 13 Amigas at home Finally a Z3 one! I'll stick with 'Cachaça do Inter' for this week: Chivas gives headaches! :D

12 March 2009, 05:37	#6
gklinger Vegetable Lasagna Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto, CANADA Age: 43 Posts: 711	Yet another reason I love my Indivision. __________________ Call me Golan; my parents did.

19 March 2009, 05:04	#10
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 2,335	I've actually used super-glue to hold mine down but that was only because it had become a bit loose (caused by repeatedly taking it on and off which seems to push the pins back a little). The first one that I fitted to a different MB stayed put with just a bit of silicon at a couple of fixing points. Last edited by NovaCoder; 23 March 2009 at 02:50.

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10 March 2009, 04:09	#3
Akira Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: # Posts: 12,584	I like native PAL machines, so I'd recommend that. Sometimes I found no matter what tooltype I put in WHDLoad, some games don't work if I don't boot in the mode they need. Or just override my settings (you can't force NTSC on every game, for example)

12 March 2009, 01:52	#4
NovaCoder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 2,335	I guess what he's asking is if the Indivsion will convert both the PAL and NTSC television signals to a common VGA signal in which case it doesn't matter if the game is running in PAL or NTSC.

12 March 2009, 04:04	#5
Akira Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: # Posts: 12,584	His first question is if one is more recommended than the other And the answer is simple: no. Choose whichever one you want. Indivision runs with both and converts both modes correctly!

18 March 2009, 14:57	#7
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay/Churchill Canada Posts: 1,921	I settled for the Pal motherboard with the Indivision. it seems that there are more native Pal games (WHDload/floppies) available than NTSC so why not use the same board i am assuming the Indivision was basically built and tested on. The display is awesome on my Samsung T245. One bad thing is the HP chip Lisa, it does not give a definate snap when fitted and twice it has popped. I'm in the process of finding some double sided sticky spongy tape to try to keep it down. What are other people using who have this problem ?

19 March 2009, 03:32	#9
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay/Churchill Canada Posts: 1,921	Hi there, yup, it was actually pre-sanded when i got it, (a week ago) it has been sanded almost down to the pins and it still pops off, so it isnt a 100% fix. Thats why i'm curious to see what other people are doing, whether glueing or some other mens to prevent the popoffs

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