The true end of Amiga

[Gordon]

I was reading the Amiga Inc thread and to me like others have said is dead but it still exists as a hobby for retro lovers. Similar to people who still listen to frank sinatra etc. But when do you think the Amiga scene will be completely dead? Once, we the amiga generation, die, will the Amiga scene with it? Or will there be people who never had an Amiga in the originals days keep the scene alive in say 40 years. Might have its plus sides, when most Amigans have died you may be able to pick up and sx-32 pro for a £10 and a blizzard for £5 when there grand children find it in the loft.

[TCD]

Given the Amiga scene is under 25 years old, it's really hard to tell how long it will be alive Don't know, but I would say let's have a look at it again in ten years

[s2325]

here is true end of Amiga: http://www.jerrygoulet.co.uk/amiga/p..._and_ports.JPG

[AmigaFriend]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Given the Amiga scene is under 25 years old, it's really hard to tell how long it will be alive Don't know, but I would say let's have a look at it again in ten years

Yes and emulators will all we can have by that time do fiddle with

[alexh]

Given the fact that my dad has a 75 yo car and a 300 yo clock I'd say probably never.

Originally Posted by gordonbennett

when most Amigans have died you may be able to pick up and sx-32 pro for a £10 and a blizzard for £5 when there grand children find it in the loft.

I've said many times the price of Amiga hardware goes in predictable cycles.

First it went down as everyone sold their Amiga's to buy PC's.
Then it creeps up as everyone got full time jobs / careers and had lots of disposable income and could afford to buy the Amiga they always wanted.
Then it goes down as people got married and their wives wouldn't let them keep all the "computer crap".
Then it goes really down as Amiga users have kids and their disposable income drops to zero.
Then there is a large peak as Amiga users buy back systems to show their kids what computers were like in the good old days.
Low again as kids go to University and disposable income drops to zero.
High again as Amiga users retire.
Low once more as Amiga users die

[killergorilla]

When I die.

I am the life and soul of everything.

Without me there is nothing.

[Paul_s]

The Amiga is like the Magna Carta.

It will never be forgotton as it was far ahead of its time and was a revalation in the infancy of the home computer era.

I reckon an Amiga 500 on the 2525 edition of Antiques Roadshow will be worth 40,000 groats

[alexh]

Originally Posted by Paul_s

I reckon an Amiga 500 on the 2525 edition of Antiques Roadshow will be worth 40,000 groats

Dont you know anything, the unit of currency in 2525 is the Google-second. A timebased unit of access to Google worth approx 1hrs manual labour.

[Thorham]

Originally Posted by alexh

Given the fact that my dad has a 75 yo car and a 300 yo clock I'd say probably never.

Although I really want to agree, I can't Old cars and clocks are easy: If a part fails, and can't be obtained anywhere, you can make a new part. But what if a chip fails? Chips are not so easy to make

[Eliotg]

Originally Posted by gordonbennett

I was reading the Amiga Inc thread and to me like others have said is dead but it still exists as a hobby for retro lovers. Similar to people who still listen to frank sinatra etc. But when do you think the Amiga scene will be completely dead? Once, we the amiga generation, die, will the Amiga scene with it? Or will there be people who never had an Amiga in the originals days keep the scene alive in say 40 years. Might have its plus sides, when most Amigans have died you may be able to pick up and sx-32 pro for a £10 and a blizzard for £5 when there grand children find it in the loft.

calculate that most of amiga fanatics have now 30-40 years
in the 2050 the average will be...70-80...almost all ppl will be dead or seriously old or blind or deaf....
most fanatics will be in the geriatric hospital

in the 2060 everybody will be dead...you,me,the amiga,the fanatics,...all
the amiga hardware will be totally damaged and useless
RIP

[blade002]

Damn i feel like cutting my wrists now. This thread is so depressing ... I don't want to die .. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh.... but so many people who are in there early 20's call me old now and just last week i was talking to a guy i know who is 22 and we were talking about music, so i mentioned a couple of musical artists from the 90's and then he says to me "fuck your old!" .... it really sucked hearing him say it.

[TCD]

Guess Windows XP fans will die out before us
I wouldn't worry about that really. When it happens it happens and most properly we're all dead by then anyway

[s2325]

what about end of the world in 2012?

[killergorilla]

Originally Posted by blade002

Damn i feel like cutting my wrists now. This thread is so depressing ... I don't want to die .. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh.... but so many people who are in there early 20's call me old now and just last week i was talking to a guy i know who is 22 and we were talking about music, so i mentioned a couple of musical artists from the 90's and then he says to me "fuck your old!" .... it really sucked hearing him say it.

Should have said "fuck you twat" right back

[r0jaws]

I'm taking mine with me.

[Eliotg]

amiga fanatics in his chairs (year 2050)




from left to right:killergorilla,Alexh,Blade002

[killergorilla]

I look a lot different...

[blade002]

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Should have said "fuck you twat" right back

LOL... ah its ok, the guy is about as bright as a burnt match and as sharp as a bowling ball, so what i lose in age (as in older than him) i make up for in intelligence over him

Actually us Amiga owners are a seasoned bunch with many experiences and we all mostly lived in the BEST times of computing and those were the 80's and 90's so i am happy that i was there to see it unlike some guys that are 20 years younger and missed out on all the great Atari 2600, CBS Colecovision, ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, Apple IIe 8 bit days & the glorious 16 bit era with the Amiga & ST(was fun to have the debates)... etc.

They really missed out BIG TIME, but us guys were THERE!

[Eliotg]

Originally Posted by killergorilla

I look a lot different...

sorry.... I Imagined that cause your old avatar

[Yoto]

When i go to the retirement house i will make a new mod to my miggy, im already thinking in the best way to plug it to a electric Wheel Chair, Hoooooo... i can hardly wait, Lotus 3 will be so much more fun...and when i die, i will be buried with it, i will have plenty of time to play retro games and to see leytond finally put his amiga together...

[asm1]

Jeez this should be renamed "manic depressives" thread. Personally I dont know what you are all worrying about. Want a "dead" platform, try Acorn/Risc OS.... I'm astonished by the ammount of Amiga software and (new ish) hardware like scandoublers and the like. I might be missing something but the Acorn segment is FAR smaller than the Amiga one... granted the machines are around the same age, but the hardware is still very much alive and kicking.

Lets see, the Amiga goes as far back as 1985... in 1985 Acorn had the BBC series. Can a BBC Master Run Risc OS ? erm nope....

Can an Amiga 1000 run os 3.9 ? I'm sure it could with some expansions...

So for a 24 year old system to still be relatively current in terms of what the platform can do.... I'd say its far from dead.

No I'm not bashing Risc OS either.... but I feel that the Amiga has far more resources available to it than the equivalent Acorn, or the Ealiest Archimedes....

USB (yes I know you can put USB on a Risc PC, but anything earlier and you're screwed)
it'll go on an A1200. The Equivalent Acorn (A3000 series/4000/5000 ?) Forget it.

More than 8MB ram ? yup, most, if not all Amigas. Most Arcs are limited to 4/8mb. The A540 can have 16 and the Risc PC up to 256 MB with a kinetic card.

Software, hmm web browsers etc all available for both platforms. Amiga has a Vast catalogue of Games (far more than the Arch)

This is not meant to be a "whose best" argument - I started with an Acorn and 'm getting an Amiga, I love them both. The Amiga may not be at the forefront of technology any more (and it hasn't been for a LONG time) but please... its not dead. It will only die when there's no one left to keep the community going. Hardware is only plastic/metal/PCB's and will wear out eventually. People can and do find ways of keeping old things working (Radios are a typical example)

Of course it will get harder, but hopefully not for a few years yet.

[Rebel-CD32]

It won't end, it's the computer that refuses to die. They'll eventually become self aware and instruct us on how to build their true successor, with the 3D and the magic-hands interface and the voice that can sing and immitate anyone.

[PWLM]

Originally Posted by s2325

what about end of the world in 2012?

Yeah, the pope was meant to be assassinated in 1998 too. Nostradamus lived 1/2 his life in a locked cellar full of opium smoke so he saw some pretty whacky stuff...

Wait - what was the topic?

Oh yeah. How many of us have MAME cabinets or at least the emu with Space Invader/Asteroids/Defender? Any time I have been to an arcade show they still have a cue. Amiga is the Alpha and the Omega (maybe it should have been spelt Amega )

[Boo Boo]

Originally Posted by Rebel-CD32

It won't end, it's the computer that refuses to die. They'll eventually become self aware and instruct us on how to build their true successor, with the 3D and the magic-hands interface and the voice that can sing and immitate anyone.

I think SkyNet will build such an Amiga

[PWLM]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

I think SkyNet will build such an Amiga

No way. The Amiga will be too smart to destroy most of the worlds population. Maybe just owners of Atari STs

[DH]

For me I'll be wired up and have the A1200 implanted inside my chest, so I'll live forever and never ever die. So the Amiga will live on for all of eternity

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

I think SkyNet will build such an Amiga

You mean they have build it... ah I hate this time travel paradoxes

[amiga]

Originally Posted by Paul_s

The Amiga is like the Magna Carta.

It will never be forgotton ...

Ask people around and hear 'em asking: Ammeega what ??
The truth of the matter is: the Amiga *has been* forgotten!

[wilshy]

I'll be in a mental home long before the death of other fans. Abuse of the brain

[Predabot]

Hrrm. I think there will continously be a small influx of new folks that never had an Amiga as a kid, drawn mostly to the games that came out on the Amiga, like me.

I never even knew the Amiga was meant to be a home-computer even, I just thought it was another console. Sort of. ( bit odd that a console had a keyboard...)

Basically, there are fans of 16-bit gaming, and sometimes they deplete games of interest on the Mame, Snes, and Genesis and then they sometimes find the Amiga, and then they've got a whole new platform to discover.

[killergorilla]

Originally Posted by Eliotg

sorry.... I Imagined that cause your old avatar

Ok, I'll let you off!

That was actually Nat King Cole

I am of white-british origins

[Ironclaw]

Meh, "the true end of amiga" "amiga is soon gone" "blablabla for how long will it last"...

why do people make these stupid threads asking when amiga will be no more??

NO ONE KNOWS!!.. it's that simple

[DDNI]

My eldest kid (10) is Amiga mad. He has his own a1200 with blizzard 030 and 4GB of WHDload goodness.... I wonder when he will lose interest...?

[musashi5150]

When his mates start taking the piss out of him for liking "old crap"

[killergorilla]

Or when he figures out there are better things to play with.

[Spectre]

I disagree. Modern games are balls, they have nicer graphics but most don't have the playability that was commonplace during the golden age of computing. I have an xbox360 here and online gaming is the only real innovation I've seen in the last 20 years. It doesn't matter how many bells and whilstles you put on it, playability is still what counts and that fact is something which the generation gap does not hide.

[Gordon]

Originally Posted by Spectre

I disagree. Modern games are balls, they have nicer graphics but most don't have the playability that was commonplace during the golden age of computing. I have an xbox360 here and online gaming is the only real innovation I've seen in the last 20 years. It doesn't matter how many bells and whilstles you put on it, playability is still what counts and that fact is something which the generation gap does not hide.

Totally agree with you there. I hardly ever play single player games on it. I got Fifa for example, its good once in a blue moon, but SWOS i could play forever.

Im sorry if this thread is morbid for some.

[pubzombie]

Originally Posted by Spectre

I disagree. Modern games are balls, they have nicer graphics but most don't have the playability that was commonplace during the golden age of computing. I have an xbox360 here and online gaming is the only real innovation I've seen in the last 20 years. It doesn't matter how many bells and whilstles you put on it, playability is still what counts and that fact is something which the generation gap does not hide.

I agree with Spectre,
there is more than nostalgia going on when I play old games. There was something lost I believe when things went from 2d to 3d madness. I miss the old 2d games where playability had to be an attractive selling point.
Pz

[asm1]

Well I've just got Street fighter 4 in the post... I'll compare it to SFII when I get my miggy shall I?

[Spectre]

Haha, touche, I have a copy on it's way from play.com myself