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Old 07 February 2009, 17:03   #1
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Lemmings (ADF) sound problems

A basic game, very well known.
I am trying to play it in WinUAE 1.5.3, and I've tried three different releases, but they all have music problems in the music of the second level (FUN - "only floaters can survive this").
Is this common to every ADF release? Pre-installed WHD version does not have any music problems. It doesn't seem to be a sound config isuue: my sound is synced to a perfect 50Hz display and all other games sound file, and the whdload lemmings version sounds great, too.

What could be the cause? Thanks!
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Old 07 February 2009, 20:00   #2
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All cracked Lemmings versions have one or more errors on Disk 2.
Please test my repaired Disk. (in the zone)

Sorry for my bad english!
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Old 08 February 2009, 20:23   #3
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Is that artifact a 'scratching' sound in place of the samples, gaula? After thinking that it used to be fine many years ago, returning to Lemmings now and again brought that with every version that I had. I eventually sorted it by running through the versions that a friend had and trying a couple of SPS/IPF versions.

I don't know if any of these ADFs work correctly, but will try what I have when I have a few moments. I know that I now have one that plays the music okay on all the levels that I have tried so far - just not which it is or whether or not it is only the IPF images! From what JonnyB says, it looks like it is only the IPFs... I will check, though.

Jonny, what is/are the error(s) on the second disk?
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Old 08 February 2009, 20:32   #4
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@JonnyB
Man I don't know how you fixed it, but hank you very much However I think the pitch of the sample is too high, but at least the annoying scratch sound is gone
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Old 09 February 2009, 20:53   #5
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Hi,

i used the Lemmings HD-Installer by Jean-Francois Fabre to make real files from the diskimages.
http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/jff_loaders/lemmingshd.lzx
http://jffabre.free.fr/amiga/bintools/LATEST/jst.lha

Lemmings IPF images can be installed with -> 2 disk version (PAL/NTSC)
Lemmings ADF images can be installed with -> ohno more lemmings (dos track)

I installed the original CAPS Lemmings into one folder and the cracked Lemmings into another folder, then i compared the files.
On the Lemmings Disk2 [cracked by Chain/Semtex - t+10 Goonies] is only the soundfile "strings2" different. (defect?)
Then, i used a HEX-Editor and wrote the good "strings2" soundfile over the old. (on the diskimage)


comparison:
Lemmings (1991)(Psygnosis)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr Chain - Semtex][t +10 Goonies].adf -> 1 different file
strings2

Lemmings (1991)(Psygnosis)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr SKR][b errdms].adf -> 5 different files
msnr
mspeedup
mtp1
mtp2
strings2

Lemmings (1991)(Psygnosis)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr SKR][v Lamer Exterminator 2].adf -> virus on bootblock and 2 different files
special3
strings2
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Old 13 February 2009, 16:55   #6
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@JonnyB: Thanks A LOT for that disk!!! Now I AM PLAYING LEMMINGS WITH SUPER POWER! :P
This community is just great. Back to green-haired rodent saving, hehehe!
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Old 17 March 2009, 18:30   #7
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I just registered myself because I HAD the same problem and found a much easier and better solution.

Just download the ORIGINAL disk images in IPF-format. As far as I understand these are the original disks with their original copy protection still intact. IDEAL for the REAL experience! No more sound issues, just 100% Psygnosis.

Download the IPF-images here:
[Link deleted - Graham]

Site is somewhat slow... I recommend to grab it while you can.

Get the IPF-plugin and put it where your WinUAE.exe is located:
http://www.softpres.org/download

Get the Windows-Version.

I am really glad something like the SPS (Software Preservation Society) exists. Imagine those really sweet tunes from Lemmings would be lost.

Just 30 minutes ago I listened to the Level2-Music... for the first time in about 15 years I heard those tunes unaltered and 100% clean and error-free.

The weird thing is that back then when I had the A500 I also had the SkidRow-Release of Lemmings. I cannot recall I had any sound problems whatsoever... anyways... grab the above stuff and ENJOY!

Best regards,

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Old 17 March 2009, 19:28   #8
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Hello LeChuck and welcome to EAB.

Sorry but I had to remove the IPFs link in your post - the forum rules state that such files must not be linked on or uploaded to EAB at the request of the SPS team themselves.
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Old 22 September 2009, 23:24   #9
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JonnyB, could you upload your fixed lemmings disks to the zone again please, thanks in advance ;o)
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Back in the zone Kitty
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Old 22 September 2009, 23:50   #11
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Awesome thankyou so much
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Old 23 September 2009, 00:05   #12
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No problem Kitty
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Old 02 October 2009, 20:35   #13
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There seems to be another problem with the IPF versions (unless it's with the WHDLoad slave) - they crashed after I'd been playing them for 5/6 minutes on a whdload install (screen freezes, the number in the bottom left corrupts, but music carries on, F10 still quits). My real disks on the same install don't do this.
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Old 03 October 2009, 11:22   #14
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i have previously reported a similar problem with the WHDload slave, which does not occur with the JST installer;

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=34651

bug report on mantis bug tracker; 0001840
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Old 14 June 2010, 19:31   #15
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Can someone please upload the corrected ADFs to the zone again, please?
I had a massive HD crash and lost'em... sorry

thanks in advance
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Old 14 June 2010, 19:40   #16
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Repaired disk 2 is back in the zone
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Old 15 June 2010, 11:35   #17
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Thanks a lot!

Now it's on my backup HD as well as in my Minimig, for daily playing
I won't lose them again!
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Old 15 June 2010, 12:42   #18
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Wow! Lemmings is all about finding your way in each level... haven't thou ever been in school as a kid, changing Lemmings knowledge with friends during History class?

No, seriously, I suppose you should look in Gamefaqs. If there's a walkthrought for a game, it's to be found there
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Old 16 January 2011, 15:23   #19
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I've searched everywhere for a fixed version of these disks but no luck. Could someone put repaired disk 2 back in the zone or on the game archives maybe pleeese.

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Hi Asd and welcome to EAB!

Should have done this back in June, but you can find the fixed disk on the EAB file server in the folder 'Game/Disk' now
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