Apidya not working properly...

Predabot · 23 January 2009, 23:23

Yeah... here comes the obligatory Predabot n00bish whining-thread. So, I'm trying a new game, and a new crack. And as always, there's something I don't quite seem to understand about how to get the game working.

I'm using the Apidya (1992)(Kaiko - Play Byte)[cr QTX][t +40 ATX](Disk 1 of 2)[a] 2-disc crack.

I say Nae to all of the hacks at the beginning and press start games. Then I come to a screen called "game keys" who lists a bunch of stuff, and then... nothing.

Nothing at all... The list seems to mention F1-F4 in the top, maybe as controls of shifting weapons? Thing is tho, I've reconfigured the input so F2 and F4 is used for quicksave and load respectively.

Would this affect me running the game? A little help here guys... This Amiga-stuff is kind of hard and complicated.

Retro-Nerd · 23 January 2009, 23:30

Press both mouse buttons at once in the trainer menu to start the game. I assume you mean the Quartex +40 crack.

Predabot · 23 January 2009, 23:54

Yes sorry, I pasted the wrong file-name. oops!

And that did it!!

Thanks Retro! You're always looking out for the new guys, and helping them on in the hobby.

Retro-Nerd · 23 January 2009, 23:56

No problem. Have fun with this true classic.

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 00:13

It would appear as if I have a new problem however... I reconfigured Configuration #1, and now it seems like I can't use the standard controls of Alt and Ctrl+space and cursor-keys for the actual controls. How so?

sun68 · 24 January 2009, 01:54

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FOL · 24 January 2009, 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

It would appear as if I have a new problem however... I reconfigured Configuration #1, and now it seems like I can't use the standard controls of Alt and Ctrl+space and cursor-keys for the actual controls. How so?

I have wondered the same thing for ages, just stick it to compatability.

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 12:38

Yeah, that's the first thing I figured, but if I do that, I won't have any quick-save and load keys.

A 3-button combo to save, is a no-no, in such intense fire-fights as you get into in a shoot-em-up like Apidya.

TCD · 24 January 2009, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

A 3-button combo to save, is a no-no, in such intense fire-fights as you get into in a shoot-em-up like Apidya.

Well if you already have discovered the input window, why not map quicksave and quickload to different keys?

Retro-Nerd · 24 January 2009, 15:44

You can't configure the controls in "compatibility mode".

TCD · 24 January 2009, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

It would appear as if I have a new problem however... I reconfigured Configuration #1, and now it seems like I can't use the standard controls of Alt and Ctrl+space and cursor-keys for the actual controls. How so?

Yup, but in Configuration #1 you can

Retro-Nerd · 24 January 2009, 15:45

Have you really read the last few posts?

TCD · 24 January 2009, 15:51

Oh, that's what FOL meant with 'just stick it to compatability'

Okay, so you can't use the cursor keys for the joystick movement or does it simply not work? Guess I'll have a look now

Edit : Found a solution

You can edit the cursor keys and alt for the Joy2 functions in the input window and choose any keyboard layout for the game port. Works a treat (tested with Apidya

)

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 17:41

Hmm... you can? I've only got a keyboard. Where do I find this input? It would appear as if I can assign Joy1 functions to the mouse, but I can't find Joy2..

TCD · 24 January 2009, 18:02

You need to select 'Keyboard *' from the upper right combobox. Then choose the key you want to remap (cursor up for example). Then select the function form the combobox at the bottom of the window. Have a look at this screenshot. I hope it is clear enough (though maybe not

)

Note that my keyboard is German therefore the keys have different names

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 18:53

I think I've got it.

How many joy-buttons does Apidya use btw? Is it 3 or only 2?

And do I need to map one of the keys so I can use pause? I just tried the config, and controls have been restored, but there doesn't seem to be a pause-button?

TCD · 24 January 2009, 18:57

IIRC it's only one button

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 19:04

Ok. I mapped button 3 to space, should cut it. I just realized something rather disheartening however... the game crashes into graphic gibberish if I use the quick-load key...

A bug in the crack or WINUAE?

TCD · 24 January 2009, 19:10

Which WinUAE version do you use Predabot? There was an update regarding savestates recently, so maybe it's worth to use the latest stable version (or even the beta). I just tried it here with the normal save and load state and it works properly. If the newest version doesn't fix it i'll try it with quicksave and load too

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 19:16

I'm using 1.5.2

TCD · 24 January 2009, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

I'm using 1.5.2

Then please try it with 1.5.3

Edit : Here is the post with the fix for savestates that was implemented in 1.5.3
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=470945&postcount=33

Retro-Nerd · 24 January 2009, 19:43

Apidya supports 2 buttons, the second is for weapon/speed selection.

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 20:01

Interesting. But is version 1.5.3 really stable? I see there's a 1.6 now.

Retro: Good to know. =)

Retro-Nerd · 24 January 2009, 20:06

1.5.3 is the last full release, it's stable. The second button is the same like space, you enable the collected speed, weapons, shield extras.

TCD · 24 January 2009, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

Interesting. But is version 1.5.3 really stable? I see there's a 1.6 now.

You can also use the 1.6.0 beta, but 1.5.3 is the last officical release and should help you with your problem

Predabot · 24 January 2009, 20:22

All right, I'm giving it a go. I'll be using Beta 5, should I chose beta 8 instead?

EDIT: Save-states are working like a charm,

but it does say that it's an obsolete beta at the beginning.

EDIT2: Just wanted to say THANKS everyone!

I'm thinking this save-state bug was probably what messed up the turrican-games for me as well.

And huge cudos to helping me set up the controls, with quicksave-keys. They're a life-saver... literally!

TCD · 24 January 2009, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predabot

EDIT2: Just wanted to say THANKS everyone!

I'm thinking this save-state bug was probably what messed up the turrican-games for me as well.

And huge cudos to helping me set up the controls, with quicksave-keys. They're a life-saver... literally!

Ah cool

Glad to hear you got it sorted mate

Now have fun playing the games the way you want it

Predabot · 27 January 2009, 16:17

All right, I've had a bit of fun, playing this game. I've just completed the robotic level, and then I run into a strange problem...

The screen starts flickering from black to white, and I get this message:

"Software Failure. Press left mouse-button to continue. Guru Meditation #00000003.B03C0001"

Did I make some kind of mistake with the disk-swapping? What?

TCD · 27 January 2009, 18:47

Ah drats

Can you make a savestate before it happens? I would like to have a look (but not really to play through the game to that point to be honest

)

Predabot · 27 January 2009, 20:29

The save-state is actually just prior to the failure. How do I add files to a post?

TCD · 27 January 2009, 20:31

You could upload it to the zone

Have a look here : http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=vb_...ezone_faq_item

Retro-Nerd · 27 January 2009, 20:33

Or zip it and use the paperclip icon for attachments.

Predabot · 27 January 2009, 23:02

Here we go. It's the quartex-crack of course.

TCD · 27 January 2009, 23:09

Hmm, this is right before the crash as it seems

Sorry for not pointing it out more precise, but a savestate ingame (before the level ends) would be more useful

I've seen that your savestate has 1 MB chip and no slow ram. Which quickstart did you choose for Apidya?

Retro-Nerd · 27 January 2009, 23:11

Use A500 most common. You used 1 MB Chip + ECS Agnus. I guess you have to play again. Your savestate loads automatically these settings.

Predabot · 28 January 2009, 00:45

I used Kickstart 1.3 with Apidya, and indeed the 1mb Ram and ECS Agnus chipset.

Should I be using some slow and Fast Ram as well? It's a regular 68k CPU of course.

TCD · 28 January 2009, 00:48

Go to the quickstart window and select '1.3 ROM, OCS, 512 kB Chip + 512 kB Slow RAM (most common)'. You should also insert both disks (first in DF0: and second in DF1

.

Predabot · 28 January 2009, 01:34

All right, settings optimized. I'd like to give it another go, but would this new config work with the old save-state...? :|

TCD · 28 January 2009, 01:35

Sorry, but no

The savestate will overwrite the new config. Like Retro said : You have to play from the beginning...

Predabot · 28 January 2009, 01:42

That sucks ass...

Hmm... Well, there seems to be something called levelskip in the quartex-crack. Seems a bit needlessly complicated tho... why not just let the user select the level by clicking, like in the Turrican-cracks?

I think I'll have a look at the one Sun68 posted, maybe there's a more logical level-selector in that one.

Too bad I'll lose all my kick-ass powerups now... I had virtually everything. I was pretty bad-ass.

EDIT: That's the same release... I'll have to try another one. One that lets me select which level to start at.

23 January 2009, 23:54	#3
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	Yes sorry, I pasted the wrong file-name. oops! And that did it!! Thanks Retro! You're always looking out for the new guys, and helping them on in the hobby. Last edited by Predabot; 24 January 2009 at 00:13.

24 January 2009, 01:54	#6
sun68 Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 68	Apidya 100% @OK, here is It Cracked by QUARTEX, Trained by ANTHROX, Imported by DPAD Download Here Its Cracked .... Its Trained .... Its Imported ... P. S. Press RMB to Save as ... P. S. 2. i love east german releases ... P. S. 3. error free ... @:sun68 speaking here :@

24 January 2009, 15:51	#13
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	Oh, that's what FOL meant with 'just stick it to compatability' Okay, so you can't use the cursor keys for the joystick movement or does it simply not work? Guess I'll have a look now Edit : Found a solution You can edit the cursor keys and alt for the Joy2 functions in the input window and choose any keyboard layout for the game port. Works a treat (tested with Apidya ) __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013 Last edited by TCD; 24 January 2009 at 16:00.

24 January 2009, 18:02	#15
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	You need to select 'Keyboard *' from the upper right combobox. Then choose the key you want to remap (cursor up for example). Then select the function form the combobox at the bottom of the window. Have a look at this screenshot. I hope it is clear enough (though maybe not ) Note that my keyboard is German therefore the keys have different names __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

24 January 2009, 18:57	#17
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	IIRC it's only one button __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

23 January 2009, 23:23	#1
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	Apidya not working properly... Yeah... here comes the obligatory Predabot n00bish whining-thread. So, I'm trying a new game, and a new crack. And as always, there's something I don't quite seem to understand about how to get the game working. I'm using the Apidya (1992)(Kaiko - Play Byte)[cr QTX][t +40 ATX](Disk 1 of 2)[a] 2-disc crack. I say Nae to all of the hacks at the beginning and press start games. Then I come to a screen called "game keys" who lists a bunch of stuff, and then... nothing. Nothing at all... The list seems to mention F1-F4 in the top, maybe as controls of shifting weapons? Thing is tho, I've reconfigured the input so F2 and F4 is used for quicksave and load respectively. Would this affect me running the game? A little help here guys... This Amiga-stuff is kind of hard and complicated. Last edited by Predabot; 23 January 2009 at 23:30.

23 January 2009, 23:30	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Press both mouse buttons at once in the trainer menu to start the game. I assume you mean the Quartex +40 crack.

23 January 2009, 23:56	#4
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	No problem. Have fun with this true classic.

24 January 2009, 00:13	#5
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	It would appear as if I have a new problem however... I reconfigured Configuration #1, and now it seems like I can't use the standard controls of Alt and Ctrl+space and cursor-keys for the actual controls. How so?

24 January 2009, 12:38	#8
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	Yeah, that's the first thing I figured, but if I do that, I won't have any quick-save and load keys. A 3-button combo to save, is a no-no, in such intense fire-fights as you get into in a shoot-em-up like Apidya.

24 January 2009, 15:44	#10
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	You can't configure the controls in "compatibility mode".

24 January 2009, 15:45	#12
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Have you really read the last few posts?

24 January 2009, 17:41	#14
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	Hmm... you can? I've only got a keyboard. Where do I find this input? It would appear as if I can assign Joy1 functions to the mouse, but I can't find Joy2..

24 January 2009, 18:53	#16
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	I think I've got it. How many joy-buttons does Apidya use btw? Is it 3 or only 2? And do I need to map one of the keys so I can use pause? I just tried the config, and controls have been restored, but there doesn't seem to be a pause-button?

24 January 2009, 19:04	#18
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	Ok. I mapped button 3 to space, should cut it. I just realized something rather disheartening however... the game crashes into graphic gibberish if I use the quick-load key... A bug in the crack or WINUAE?

24 January 2009, 19:10	#19
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	Which WinUAE version do you use Predabot? There was an update regarding savestates recently, so maybe it's worth to use the latest stable version (or even the beta). I just tried it here with the normal save and load state and it works properly. If the newest version doesn't fix it i'll try it with quicksave and load too __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

24 January 2009, 19:16	#20
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	I'm using 1.5.2

24 January 2009, 19:43	#22
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Apidya supports 2 buttons, the second is for weapon/speed selection.

24 January 2009, 20:01	#23
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	Interesting. But is version 1.5.3 really stable? I see there's a 1.6 now. Retro: Good to know. =)

24 January 2009, 20:06	#24
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	1.5.3 is the last full release, it's stable. The second button is the same like space, you enable the collected speed, weapons, shield extras.

24 January 2009, 20:22	#26
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	All right, I'm giving it a go. I'll be using Beta 5, should I chose beta 8 instead? EDIT: Save-states are working like a charm, but it does say that it's an obsolete beta at the beginning. EDIT2: Just wanted to say THANKS everyone! I'm thinking this save-state bug was probably what messed up the turrican-games for me as well. And huge cudos to helping me set up the controls, with quicksave-keys. They're a life-saver... literally! Last edited by Predabot; 24 January 2009 at 22:49.

27 January 2009, 16:17	#28
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	All right, I've had a bit of fun, playing this game. I've just completed the robotic level, and then I run into a strange problem... The screen starts flickering from black to white, and I get this message: "Software Failure. Press left mouse-button to continue. Guru Meditation #00000003.B03C0001" Did I make some kind of mistake with the disk-swapping? What?

27 January 2009, 18:47	#29
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	Ah drats Can you make a savestate before it happens? I would like to have a look (but not really to play through the game to that point to be honest ) __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

27 January 2009, 20:29	#30
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	The save-state is actually just prior to the failure. How do I add files to a post?

27 January 2009, 20:31	#31
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	You could upload it to the zone Have a look here : http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=vb_...ezone_faq_item __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

27 January 2009, 20:33	#32
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Or zip it and use the paperclip icon for attachments.

27 January 2009, 23:09	#34
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	Hmm, this is right before the crash as it seems Sorry for not pointing it out more precise, but a savestate ingame (before the level ends) would be more useful I've seen that your savestate has 1 MB chip and no slow ram. Which quickstart did you choose for Apidya? __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

27 January 2009, 23:11	#35
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 41 Posts: 8,380	Use A500 most common. You used 1 MB Chip + ECS Agnus. I guess you have to play again. Your savestate loads automatically these settings. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 27 January 2009 at 23:17.

28 January 2009, 00:45	#36
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	I used Kickstart 1.3 with Apidya, and indeed the 1mb Ram and ECS Agnus chipset. Should I be using some slow and Fast Ram as well? It's a regular 68k CPU of course.

28 January 2009, 00:48	#37
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	Go to the quickstart window and select '1.3 ROM, OCS, 512 kB Chip + 512 kB Slow RAM (most common)'. You should also insert both disks (first in DF0: and second in DF1. __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

28 January 2009, 01:34	#38
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	All right, settings optimized. I'd like to give it another go, but would this new config work with the old save-state...? :\|

28 January 2009, 01:35	#39
TCD Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 22,484	Sorry, but no The savestate will overwrite the new config. Like Retro said : You have to play from the beginning... __________________ "I am Polka and that's why I don't like accordions" - CrazyOne, April 2013

28 January 2009, 01:42	#40
Predabot Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Swedun' Posts: 394	That sucks ass... Hmm... Well, there seems to be something called levelskip in the quartex-crack. Seems a bit needlessly complicated tho... why not just let the user select the level by clicking, like in the Turrican-cracks? I think I'll have a look at the one Sun68 posted, maybe there's a more logical level-selector in that one. Too bad I'll lose all my kick-ass powerups now... I had virtually everything. I was pretty bad-ass. EDIT: That's the same release... I'll have to try another one. One that lets me select which level to start at. Last edited by Predabot; 28 January 2009 at 01:56.

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