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Old 23 January 2009, 15:56   #41
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I have to ask, this Breathless that keeps getting bandied about, but also banded off often, how good is it?

I think it was supposed to be the Amiga's first 3D game, right? A competitor to Doom, yes?
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Old 23 January 2009, 16:03   #42
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I think it was supposed to be the Amiga's first 3D game, right? A competitor to Doom, yes?
That's wrong, there were Doom clones on Amiga before Breathless was released (Gloom, Alien Breed 3d, Fear to name but a few).
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Old 23 January 2009, 20:11   #43
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Lots of once Amiga-exclusive games have been ported to many platforms, because they were succesful, so I think this thread can only be filled with second-class games like Allo Allo.

A bunch of exceptions off the top of my head:

- Uridium 2
- Mr. Nutz (there are snes and genesis games with the same characterand name but absolutely different game)
- Ruff n Tumble
- Virocop
- Roadkill
- Brian the Lion
- Benefactor

Can;'t think of anything else for now!

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Old 23 January 2009, 20:18   #44
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Ambermoon, Hybris, Apidya etc. are second class games? I don't think so.
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Old 23 January 2009, 20:41   #45
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I said MOST TITLES got ported to other platforms exactly for being succesful and good, so games that were not ported anywhere else and are any good, are few and far between.

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Old 23 January 2009, 20:44   #46
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I can't remember that the 'exclusive' title thingy was important back in the 80's or 90's, so maybe it's really a bit pointless to search for those games. Like Akira and Damien said the Amiga original status is far more interesting
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Old 23 January 2009, 20:46   #47
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Totally agree Cyber and also usually the best version too
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Old 23 January 2009, 20:46   #48
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Next thread: Top 10 Amiga ORIGINAL games?
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Old 23 January 2009, 20:49   #49
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Totally agree Cyber and also usually the best version too
Exactly Guess that's the point why we still remember and play Amiga games today

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Next thread: Top 10 Amiga ORIGINAL games?
Maybe Damien can change the thread title and we show Predabot the real gems
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Old 23 January 2009, 21:40   #50
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Hmm, maybe..! But it is kind of cool to have a thread dedicated to just the special gems which you have no opportunity to find on any other system.

I guess Amiga is different in that regard, than other Game-platforms. For instance, a platform like PS3 is wholly driven by its unique content, in order for it to make a break-trough, which is why it had a LOT of problems early on. All the good games where already out for Xbox360 and PC. Or Wii, if you wanted some wholly unique, but less than cutting-edge games.

( This is why I own a PC and a Wii, gives me everything cool in this modern age)

But yeah, now that I think about it, an Amiga Original thread would probably be cool, but I think it should also be filled with a little bit of open debate, since some titles received improvements on other platforms.
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Old 23 January 2009, 21:42   #51
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I think the thread title is fair. As explained by Predabot, today, game exclusivity is a *key* player in a system's success.

Remember this started to happen when consoles appeared.
Mario exclusive to Nintendo
Sonic exclusive to Sega.

these machines had "killer games" released for it, with exclusivity, and this made people buy machines, just to play that game not available anywhere.

If Commodore would have seen this, and would have funded some money in getting exclusivity of certain titles for the Amiga (like Sensible Soccer or other Amiga best-sellers), I figure they would have done a lot better. As it was, a lot of the Amiga "killer games" were later ported to genesis, SNES, etc., usually with improvements and bugfixes, rendering the Amiga "useless".
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I'm sure we've had a thread(s) discussing Amiga originals before but for the life of me I can't find it.

Anyway a thread on exclusive Amiga games is interesting in itself I think.
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This thread has its value for sure. I just wanted to say that there was no emphasis on it in the Amiga days (or for the Amiga). So many really great games were later ported to another system, but have the 'roots' on the Amiga Anyway, let's try to find some more good Amiga 'exclusives'
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Old 18 June 2014, 17:49   #54
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I figured I'd ressurrect this old thread, with a small list of some of the titles mentioned as good Amiga -exclusives. =)

From what I gathered from this thread, back in the day, I would say this appears to be more or less a complete list, well, at least for the purpose of this thread, which is the GOOD games, that everybody should give a go. Bad games need not bother.

Now... for the hardest part of all... using HoL Lemon Amiga, and other rankings, to filter out the top games, getting rid of the also-rans from the list! We need a top 10, or at the least, a top 15.

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Old 23 June 2014, 22:25   #55
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I've compiled the list of the top 20! :-D

I was originally going to make it a top 10 and then top 15, but then I saw that Shadow of the Beast had a rather low score, so I had to go and make it a top 20, just to get that golden, GOLDEN nugget in there. ^

I was quite surprised at the no. 1 - so Wings is actually a more loved game than Worms: Directors Cut...? Really?! Most puzzling.

1. Wings 8,75
2. Worms: The Director's Cut 8,65
3. Ruff N Tumble 8,65
4. Ambermoon 8,59
5. Banshee 8,53
6. Benefactor 8,48
7. Lionheart 8,44
8. Napalm 8,41
9. Wasted Dreams 8,41
10. Genetic Species 8,39
11. Perihelion 8,38
12. Arabian Nights CD32 8,33
13. Twintris 8,33
14. F/A18 Interceptor 8,32
15. K240 8,32
16. Apidya 8,3
17. Hybris 8,28
18. Shadow Of The Beast 3 8,11
19. Road Kill 8,11

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Old 24 June 2014, 15:21   #56
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Deluxe Galaga isn't Amiga-only, it was ported to Windows. Citadel of Vras, Walker, Mindwalker are missing from the list.

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Old 03 July 2014, 00:17   #57
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Cheers for the correction, mate. I removed galaga from the list. Will check out the 3 you mentioned, if they can replace it.
( they gotta' have a Lemon Amiga -score higher than 8.)
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Old 03 July 2014, 08:43   #58
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Wings is a brilliant game and I'd certainly place it higher than the (personally) over rated Worms Directors Cut.

Problem is Wings was ported to Game Boy Advance. Does that invalidate it?
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I've put together a list of the better known exclusive Amiga games. The list is far from complete and misses out more obscure one-off Amiga games, unreleased titles and PD/shareware games. Let me know if I've missed something obvious!

ATR: All Terrain Racing
Abandoned Places 2
Agony
Akira
Alien Breed 3D
Alien Breed 3D II: The Killing Grounds
Alien Breed II: The Horror Continues
Ambermoon
Amnios
Antheads: It Came From The Desert II
Apidya
Apocalypse
Approach Trainer
Aqua
Aquaventura
Arabian Nights
Armour-Geddon II: Codename Hellfire
Arnie
Assassin
Banshee
Base Jumpers
Beavers
Behind the Iron Gate
Benefactor
Bill's Tomato Game
Black Crypt
Black Viper
Blade
Blob
Blockhead
Blockhead II
Bob's Bad Day
Body Blows Galactic
Breathless
Brian the Lion
Bump 'n' Burn
Capital Punishment
Carcharodon: White Sharks
Cardiaxx
Castle Kingdoms
Cavitas
Chaos Engine 2, The
Citadel
Combat Air Patrol
Crazy Seasons
Creature
Cyberpunks
Cytron
Darkmere
Death Mask
Deep Core
Disposable Hero
Dojo Dan
Donk! - The Samurai Duck!
Dragonstone
Elfmania
Enemy 2: Missing In Action
Enemy: Tempest Of Violence
Exile AGA (in its enhanced form)
Exodus 3010
F/A-18 Interceptor
F17 Challenge
Fatman: The Caped Consumer
Fears
Fightin' Spirit
Final Odyssey
Flyin' High
Foundation
Fuzzball
Genetic Species
Globdule
Globulus
Gloom
Gloom Deluxe
Gloom 3
Guardian
Gulp
HeroQuest II: Legacy Of Sorasil
Hillsea Lido
Hoi
Hybris
Hyperion
Impossible Mission 2025
Jet Pilot
K240
Kang Fu
Kargon
Kid Chaos
Kingdoms of England
Knights Of The Crystallion
Land of Genesis
Leading Lap
Liberation: Captive II
Lionheart
Mega Motion
Mind Walker
Monstrum
Mr. Nutz: Hoppin' Mad
Napalm
Nathan Never
Naughty Ones
Nebulus 2
Nemac IV
Nemac IV: Director's Cut
Odyssey
Overdrive (Infacto)
Overkill
Payback
P.O.W.
Perihelion
Phoenix Fighters
Pinkie
Piracy On The High Seas
Powder
Premiere
Project Battlefield
Project Intercalaris
Roadkill
Ruff 'n' Tumble
Second Samurai (the Mega Drive version is a different game)
Shadow Fighter
Shadow of the Beast III
Shadow of the Third Moon, The
Sideshow
Sixth Sense Investigations
Skidmarks
Sorceror's Apprentice
Speris Legacy, The
Statix
Strangers, The
Super Methane Bros
Super Tennis Champs
Sword
T-ZerO
Tales From Heaven
Tearaway Thomas
Testament
Tiny Troops
Tommy Gun
Traps 'n' Treasures
UBEK
Uridium 2
UropaČ: The Ulterior Colony
Venom Wing
Virocop
Virtual GP
Walker
Wasted Dreams
Wheelspin
Wild Cup Soccer
Woody's World
Worms: The Director's Cut
XP8
XTreme Racing
Zarathrusta
Zeewolf
Zeewolf 2: Wild Justice
Zombie Massacre

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Shadow Fighter
Alien Breed 3D II TKG
Alien Breed 3D
Shadow of the Third Moon
Shadow of the Beast III
Agony
Lionheart
Fightin' Spirit
Chaos Engine II
Virocop

It's awesome how most of those exclusives are of the highest quality, shows what proper Amiga programming can do! Ask me tomorrow and I'll have different list to show for sure!
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