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Old 17 January 2009, 01:44   #1
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Sam440 ep-flex revision1 (TBA)


  • FlexATX Form Factor (21.6 x 17 cm)
  • CPU SoC AMCC 440ep (400, 533 or 667 Mhz)
    • Integrated DDR 266 mhz memory controller
    • Integrated PCI controller
    • Integrated Flash memory devices controller
    • Integrated USB 1.1 Host and 2.0 Device controller
    • 2x integrated Ethernet 10/100 ports
    • Up to 4 serial ports
    • 2x I2C interfaces
    • SPI interface
    • 64 pin for I/O General Purpose
  • 2x DDR DIMM 100 slots, max 1 GB RAM
  • USB 2.0 OHCI/EHCI NEC PCI controller (2x external ports, 2x internal ports)
  • Audio Cirrus Logic CS4281 and Realtek ALC655 Codec
  • Silicon Image 4x Serial ATA ports
  • Pericom 8150B PCI Bridge
  • FPGA Lattice XP with 80 pin I/O expansion connector
  • 1x PCI Slot - 32 bits, 66 Mhz
  • 2x PCI Slot - 32 bits, 33 Mhz
  • mini PCI Slot - 32 bits, 33 Mhz (optional)
  • RTC with backup battery
  • ZigBee module (optional)
  • UBoot 1.3.1
Main Board only with 667 Mhz cpu, (no Ram)
375,00 euro
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Old 17 January 2009, 01:55   #2
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  • FlexATX Form Factor (21.6 x 17 cm)
  • CPU SoC AMCC 440ep (400, 533 or 667 Mhz)
    • Integrated DDR 266 mhz memory controller
    • Integrated PCI controller
    • Integrated Flash memory devices controller
    • Integrated USB 1.1 Host and 2.0 Device controller
    • 2x integrated Ethernet 10/100 ports
    • Up to 4 serial ports
    • 2x I2C interfaces
    • SPI interface
    • 64 pin for I/O General Purpose
  • 2x DDR DIMM 100 slots, max 1 GB RAM
  • USB 2.0 OHCI/EHCI NEC PCI controller (2x external ports, 2x internal ports)
  • Audio Cirrus Logic CS4281 and Realtek ALC655 Codec
  • Silicon Image 4x Serial ATA ports
  • Pericom 8150B PCI Bridge
  • FPGA Lattice XP with 80 pin I/O expansion connector
  • 1x PCI Slot - 32 bits, 66 Mhz
  • 2x PCI Slot - 32 bits, 33 Mhz
  • mini PCI Slot - 32 bits, 33 Mhz (optional)
  • RTC with backup battery
  • ZigBee module (optional)
  • UBoot 1.3.1
Main Board only with 667 Mhz cpu, (no Ram)

375,00 euro
And for those that missed it, the 2 most important improvements are:

2x DDR DIMM 100 slots, max 1 GB RAM
1x PCI Slot - 32 bits, 66 Mhz



This should be a really good board by they time I can afford to buy one, let's hope nasty old AmigaInc don't kill it.
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Old 17 January 2009, 01:56   #3
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Old 17 January 2009, 02:06   #4
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looks crappy designed.... just look at the empty space between the back ports...
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Old 17 January 2009, 05:19   #7
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Hi Peter,

hey, 375 euros!!
Are they all crazyyyyy?

Given those specs, I would accept a maximum of - let's say - 180 euros!

EDIT: I didn't see it includes the PPC Cpu... Mmmm, however the price is way too high IMHO
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Old 17 January 2009, 06:55   #8
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hey, 375 euros!!
Are they all crazyyyyy?

Given those specs, I would accept a maximum of - let's say - 180 euros!

EDIT: I didn't see it includes the PPC Cpu... Mmmm, however the price is way too high IMHO
Amigas are not mainstream anymore so hardware capable of running AmigaOS 4 is expensive. Compared to my microA1 it is very cheap. Take it or leave it and continue enjoying UAE.
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Hi Peter,

hey, 375 euros!!
Are they all crazyyyyy?

Given those specs, I would accept a maximum of - let's say - 180 euros!

EDIT: I didn't see it includes the PPC Cpu... Mmmm, however the price is way too high IMHO
I will gladly contribute the difference to the Amiga community, especially where a real effort is being made to produce useful hardware.
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Amigas are not mainstream anymore so hardware capable of running AmigaOS 4 is expensive. Compared to my microA1 it is very cheap. Take it or leave it and continue enjoying UAE.
Exactly! Economies of scale - this is waaaay too expensive to sell well (certainly not to me), but for the likely size of the production run the price / performance is probably 'fair'.

The real problem is '...hardware capable of running AmigaOS 4...'. It's written to run on the wrong hardware.
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Old 17 January 2009, 13:13   #11
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Anyone read the Micromart writeup on this? not that positive tbh.
Also 100pin DDR, ick! Other than that it looks a nice board tbh.
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Anyone read the Micromart writeup on this? not that positive tbh.
Also 100pin DDR, ick! Other than that it looks a nice board tbh.
Yes, I've read the Micro Mart review of the Sam 440EP Flex - In fact I've got it right here in front of me. You've got to remember that Sven Harvey has to be very careful what he writes in a magazine where only a minority of readers are Amiga enthusiasts. He's often been flamed in the past for being unable to control his enthusiasm for the platform.

It's a nice change seeing him able to write about current developments instead of recalling events of long ago. I bet he ends up buying one!
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Old 17 January 2009, 15:58   #13
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  • FlexATX Form Factor (21.6 x 17 cm)
  • CPU SoC AMCC 440ep (400, 533 or 667 Mhz)
    • Integrated DDR 266 mhz memory controller
    • Integrated PCI controller
    • Integrated Flash memory devices controller
    • Integrated USB 1.1 Host and 2.0 Device controller
    • 2x integrated Ethernet 10/100 ports
    • Up to 4 serial ports
    • 2x I2C interfaces
    • SPI interface
    • 64 pin for I/O General Purpose
  • 2x DDR DIMM 100 slots, max 1 GB RAM
  • USB 2.0 OHCI/EHCI NEC PCI controller (2x external ports, 2x internal ports)
  • Audio Cirrus Logic CS4281 and Realtek ALC655 Codec
  • Silicon Image 4x Serial ATA ports
  • Pericom 8150B PCI Bridge
  • FPGA Lattice XP with 80 pin I/O expansion connector
  • 1x PCI Slot - 32 bits, 66 Mhz
  • 2x PCI Slot - 32 bits, 33 Mhz
  • mini PCI Slot - 32 bits, 33 Mhz (optional)
  • RTC with backup battery
  • ZigBee module (optional)
  • UBoot 1.3.1
Main Board only with 667 Mhz cpu, (no Ram)

375,00 euro
When I can will buy one for sure, my prevision is during March
It is the only way I have to upgrade to OS4 with some future in terms of hardware speaking
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Old 18 January 2009, 01:17   #14
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I believe its a good investment, this MB is a valuepack imho. And Amiga hardware prices are pretty much stable so its not a bad long time investment.
I´m just not sure about its compability with WHDLoad and OS 3.9. ( I like OS 3.9 )...
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Amigas are not mainstream anymore so hardware capable of running AmigaOS 4 is expensive. Compared to my microA1 it is very cheap. Take it or leave it and continue enjoying UAE.
Sorry, I didn't want to hurt anyone.
What I'm wondering about is: why woudn't be possible to run AmigaOS on a more common/compatible mainboard? Ok, it needs PPC, but aren't there some PPC mainboards to be used? Perhaps it would be possible to adapt some "old" Mac PPC Mainboards? I know this is a "hazardous" question
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I believe its a good investment, this MB is a valuepack imho. And Amiga hardware prices are pretty much stable so its not a bad long time investment.
I´m just not sure about its compability with WHDLoad and OS 3.9. ( I like OS 3.9 )...
Hi Yotoxionomai,

I'm pretty sure it won't run Amiga OS 3.9; I don't think it'll even run Amigas OS 4.0!

However, I think that if you like OS 3.9, then you'll also like OS 4.x.

But here we have yet another example of the usual Amiga catch-22 situation: The only way this can progress is if enough Sam440EP Flex and Amiga OS 4.1 packages are sold that it encourages development for the platform. But how many will really buy the package without a guarantee that software will be both developed for and ported to it?

This is the reason why the AmigaOne failed. It sold in so few numbers that it was doomed to become a white elephant.

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Sorry, I didn't want to hurt anyone.
What I'm wondering about is: why woudn't be possible to run AmigaOS on a more common/compatible mainboard? Ok, it needs PPC, but aren't there some PPC mainboards to be used? Perhaps it would be possible to adapt some "old" Mac PPC Mainboards? I know this is a "hazardous" question
Hi Supamax,

This thought has already been aired.

See this thread:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=41612

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Old 18 January 2009, 02:20   #20
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@ prowler

Thanks man! I was very unsure about that. Too bad though, i had a slight hope of running Os 3.9 and all my WHD games on this MB.

I believe this guys never learned with the mistakes made in the past, they keep trying "not" to work together, this Hardware would benefit more is they sold computers with the OS already installed like Apple ans MS do!
After all, most people dont value a stand alone MB, but if sold (as a computer box) along with an OS suited to most users needs it would be perfec!
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