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Old 13 January 2009, 16:51   #1
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ORIGINAL WorkBench checksums

Hi,

prowler gave me a great idea regarding the different Workbench disks/versions.
Could anyone who owns an original unmodified (always kept write-protected since he bought it) WorkBench set of floppies, post here the floppies' CRC32 checksums?

This could end up as a very useful reference for all users, IMHO.

Massimo


Updated list (28 november 2010):

Code:
Disk                CRC32      P/N        Region           Release  Shipped with

WORKBENCH Beta 0.7

KICKSTART           $          ?          NTSC             v27.3    A1000
WORKBENCH           $          ?          NTSC             v27.5    A1000

WORKBENCH Beta 0.9

KICKSTART           $          ?          NTSC             v29.2    A1000

WORKBENCH 1.0

KICKSTART           $          327244-01  NTSC             v30.xx   A1000
WORKBENCH           $          327245-01  NTSC             v30.xx   A1000
EXTRAS              $          327246-01  NTSC             v30.xx   A1000

WORKBENCH 1.1

KICKSTART           $          327244-02  NTSC             v31.34   A1000
KICKSTART           $          327244-02  PAL              v32.34   A1000
KICKSTART           $70D0030A  327244-02  PAL              v??.??   A1000

WORKBENCH           $          327245-02  ?                v31.334  A1000
WORKBENCH           $0BE0603C  327245-02  ?                v??.???  A1000
WORKBENCH           $998B3FBA  327245-02  ?                v??.???  A1000
WORKBENCH           $34904C0E  ?          ?                v31.334  A1000

EXTRAS              $          316167-01  ?                v31.334  A1000
EXTRAS+BASIC+
AMIGA TUTOR         $3CBF918D  316167-01  ?                v??.???  A1000
EXTRAS              $A010B4C6  316167-01  ?                v??.???  A1000

WORKBENCH 1.2

KICKSTART           $          380663-01  ?                         A1000
KICKSTART           $9952865A  13546      Finland                   A1000

WORKBENCH           $5B47CA49  13547      Finland                   A1000
WORKBENCH           $9B0C3AF0  13547      Finland          v33.47   A1000
WORKBENCH           $          317612-01  France/Belgium            A500
WORKBENCH           $A3BB29C3  317610-03  Germany          v33.56   A500
WORKBENCH           $10E4AFA3  317608-03  International    v33.56   A500
WORKBENCH           $          380927-01  United Kingdom            A500
WORKBENCH           $          316391-01  ?                         A500/2000

WORKBENCH           $          380724-09  International             A2000
WORKBENCH           $          380724-10  Germany                   A2000
WORKBENCH           $ABF7A475  ?          ?                v33.56   A2000

EXTRAS1.2+BASIC1.2  $46383329  380706-09  International    v33.56   A500/2000
EXTRAS1.2+BASIC1.2  $EBE4A85C  380706-10  Germany          v33.56   A500/2000
EXTRAS1.2           $3CBF918D  13548      Finland                   A1000
EXTRAS1.2           $2327431C  13548      Finland                   A1000

AMIGA TUTOR         $C8A734AC  13549      Finland                   A1000
AMIGA TUTOR         $B57FD60F  13549      Finland                   A1000

THE VERY FIRST

ERSTE SCHRITTE      $946D9B2A  380921-01  Germany                   A500
THE VERY FIRST      $1AB58E91  380921-02  English Version           A500
PREMIERS PAS        $          380921-03  France                    A500
PRIMI PASSI         $C9E4C41B  ? (*)      Italy                     A500
PRIMI PASSI         $2DEEEF5D  380921-04  Italy                     A500
Lär-Dig-Själv                  380921-05  Sweden                    A500
EL PRIMER PASO      $          380921-06  Spain                     A500

(*) Not specified on the disk label

KICKSTART 1.2.1

KICKSTART           $          ?          ?                v34.4

WORKBENCH 1.3

KICKSTART           $          ?          ?                v34.5
KICKSTART           $F2486FD2  317747-01  ?                         A1000
WORKBENCH           $99F1D1FB  317746-01  ?                         A500/1000/2000
EXTRAS+BASIC        $72FD2A4E  317748-01  ?

WORKBENCH           $          315747-02  Germany
EXTRAS1.3+BASIC1.2  $          315746-02  Germany

WORKBENCH           $          317791-01  Germany          v34.21
EXTRAS1.3+BASIC1.2  $          317790-01  Germany

WORKBENCH           $          317789-01  United Kingdom            A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317787-01  International             A500/2000
EXTRAS1.3+BASIC1.2  $2F9CEA9F  317788-01  International             A500/2000
EXTRAS1.3+BASIC1.2  $          317788-02  International

WORKBENCH           $          317794-01  Spain
WORKBENCH           $          317794-04  Spain
WORKBENCH           $          317796-01  Sweden/Finland            A500

EXTRAS              $          2(?)67272-01  International             A3000
EXTRAS              $          367272-??  English Version           A3000

Commodore A2024 Monitor

2024 Jumpdisk WB1.3 $          317809-01  ?                v34.10 (*)
EXTRAS 1.3          $          ?          ?                       (*)

(*) This set of disks was shipped with A2024/Hedley monitors.
    The first disk (Jumpdisk) is built on WB 1.3 v34.20

WORKBENCH 1.3.1

WORKBENCH           $58363C46  317789-01  United Kingdom   v34.25
EXTRAS              $          ?          ?

WORKBENCH 1.3.2

WORKBENCH           $          317746-03  ?                v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317787-03  International    v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $C5692F06  317789-03  English Version  v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $C9A13FE7  317789-03  United Kingdom   v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $419D5197  317789-03  English Version  v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317791-03  Germany                   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317792-01  France/Belgium   v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317796-03  Sweden/Finland            A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317797-03  Italy            v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $B73033C0  ?          United Kingdom   v34.28   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $CCA80FD9  ?          ?                v34.28   A500/2000

WORKBENCH           $          367270-01  International             A3000

WORKBENCH 1.3.3

WORKBENCH           $          317746-??  ?                v34.34
WORKBENCH           $A7CF56D0  317789-04  English Version  v34.34   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317791-04  Germany          v34.34   A500/2000
WORKBENCH           $          317793-04  Norway
WORKBENCH           $          317796-04  Sweden/Finland   v34.34
WORKBENCH           $F676D4DB  ?          ?                v34.34

EXTRAS+BASIC        $          317790-02  Germany          v34.34   A500
EXTRAS+BASIC        $          317748-02  ?

EXTRAS              $E8EB34C4  367618-01  International    v34.34   A500/2000
EXTRAS              $1A4789C3  ?          ?                v34.34

WORKBENCH 1.3.4

WORKBENCH           $          ?          ?                v34.??
EXTRAS              $          ?          ?

WORKBENCH Beta 1.4

WORKBENCH 1.4 Alpha 15  $B532C6CD  USA  A1000
AUTODOCS  1.4 Alpha 15  $F6A12912  USA  A1000
KICKSTART 1.4 Alpha 15  $140E9D67  USA  A1000
SUPPORT   1.4 Alpha 15  $45A2E1E4  USA  A1000

WORKBENCH 1.4 Alpha 15A  $     ? (*)      ?                v36.1    A500/1000/2000
EXTRAS 1.4 B1            $     ? (*)      ?                v36.8    A500/1000/2000
KICKSTART 1.4 Alpha 15   $     ? (*)      ?                v36.15

(*) one of these disks is P/N 317951-01
    (see http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_b14.html)

WORKBENCH 2.0

KICKSTART           $          367245-02  ?                         A3000

INSTALL             $          335603-02  ?                         A3000
INSTALL             $          335603-03  ?                         A3000

WORKBENCH           $          317235-01  ?                         A3000
WORKBENCH           $          317954-02  ?                         A3000
WORKBENCH           $          317954-02  International             A3000
WORKBENCH           $          317954-03  ?                v36.69D  A3000

EXTRAS              $          317235-02  ?                         A3000
EXTRAS              $          317235-02  International             A3000
EXTRAS              $          317954-01  ?                         A3000

WORKBENCH 2.01/2.02/2.03

Used in early Amiga 3000 models as a “Superkickstart” (software-based ROM image file).

KICKSTART 2.01        $          367245-03  ?                         A3000

KICKSTART 2.02        $          367245-04  ?                         A3000
KICKSTART 2.02        $          367245-04  International             A3000

KICKSTART 2.03        $          367245-05  ?                         A3000
INSTALL 2.03 Rev.2.8  $          335603-04  International             A3000
WORKBENCH 2.03        $          317954-04  ?                         A3000
EXTRAS 2.03           $          317235-04  ?                         A3000

WORKBENCH 2.04

KICKSTART           $          367245-06  ?                         A3000

WORKBENCH           $57714D34  367813-01  ?                v37.67   A500+
EXTRAS              $A019B6B9  367824-01  ?                v37.67   A500+
FONTS               $2F88C0F6  367825-01  ?                v37.67   A500+
INSTALL             $74F4F26B  367826-02  ?                v37.67   A500+

WORKBENCH           $02D77D99  ?          ?                v37.67

INSTALL             $          367826-01  ?                         A3000

WORKBENCH 2.05

WORKBENCH           $F8D3D145  367813-03  International    v37.71   A600
WORKBENCH           $BE1CC8B9  367813-03  International    v37.71   A600HD
WORKBENCH           $54E22B1D  367959-01  International    v37.72   A600

EXTRAS              $80B91A94  367824-04  International    v37.71   A600
EXTRAS              $86DAEC05  367824-04  International    v37.71   A600HD
EXTRAS              $57EE1DD2  367824-04  International    v??.??   A600

FONTS               $1042D12F  367825-03  International    v37.71   A600
FONTS               $E1BED0A1  367825-03  International    v37.71   A600HD
FONTS               $7401ABA4  367825-03  International    v??.??   A600
FONTS               $          367825(-??)
FONTS               $0F4D1BBD  367968-01  International    v37.72   A600

INSTALL             $          367826(-??)                          A600HD or A3000?
INSTALL             $A48BA9D1  367943-01  International    v37.71   A600HD
SCSI INSTALL DISK   $C285C0AA  367826-03  International    v37.71   A600HD or A3000?

EXTRAS              $          367824(-??)
EXTRAS              $5AE9927A  367960-01  International    v37.72   A600
EXTRAS              $86DAEC05  ?          ?                v37.71   A600
FONTS               $7401ABA4  ?          ?                v37.71   A600

WORKBENCH 2.1

WORKBENCH           $          370155-01  English/France/Germany

EXTRAS              $          370159-01  International
FONTS               $          370160-01  International
LOCALE              $          370172-01  International

INSTALL             $09A0CD0B  310166-01  ?                v38.35
WORKBENCH           $84B6898E  310167-01  ?                v38.35
EXTRAS              $0B64E83D  310168-01  ?                v38.35
FONTS               $38DD8F2C  310169-01  ?                v38.35
LOCALE              $0D6F6B6B  310170-01  ?                v38.35

INSTALL             $          370166-01 (according to Gregory Donner’s website)
WORKBENCH           $          370167-01 (according to Gregory Donner’s website)

INSTALL             $D61709BB  ?          ?                v38.35
WORKBENCH           $6BAFBACD  ?          ?                v38.35
EXTRAS              $2EB06588  ?          ?                v38.35
FONTS               $036BD466  ?          ?                v38.35
LOCALE              $E8D1AFB0  ?          ?                v38.35

INSTALL             $ACD65CCE  370166-02  International    v38.36
WORKBENCH           $E028564B  370167-02  International    v38.36
EXTRAS              $DC939851  370168-01  International    v38.36
FONTS               $88396CAE  370169-01  International    v38.36
LOCALE              $2C364018  370170-01  International    v38.36

INSTALL             $7CD65533  370166-02  International    v38.36 (*)
WORKBENCH           $6875BEF7  370167-02  International    v38.36 (*)
EXTRAS              $0A2F739A  370168-01  International    v38.36 (*)
FONTS               $CDB3C7ED  370169-01  International    v38.36 (*)
LOCALE              $8EFF6422  370170-01  International    v38.36 (*)

(*) This set of disks was marketed by Eyetech (with Eyetech labels)
    as a Replacement Set.

WORKBENCH 3.0

INSTALL             $6FA2D2B4  370126-02  International    v39.29   A1200/4000
WORKBENCH           $A4D9752D  370127-02  International    v39.29   A1200/4000 (*)
EXTRAS              $95DA642D  370128-01  International    v39.29   A1200/4000 (*)
FONTS               $242FF841  370191-01  International    v39.29   A1200/4000 (*)
LOCALE              $67835FE5  370129-01  International    v39.29   A1200/4000 (*)
STORAGE             $0C8C24D5  370150-01  International    v39.29   A1200/4000 (*)

WORKBENCH           $A4D9752D  ?          International    v39.29   A1200/4000
WORKBENCH           $707737FD  ?          International    v39.29   A1200/4000

FONTS               $D7364BB4  ?          International    v39.29   A1200/4000
FONTS               $          370192-01  ?
FONTS               $          370130-01  ?

(*) This set of disks was marketed by Eyetech (with Eyetech labels)
    as a Replacement Set.
    The disks' content is identical to the original Commodore-Amiga set.
    The Eyetech set included this disk:
    "A1200 Hard Drive Partitioning & WB Installation disk",
    Serial Number HD00010362, CRC32 $FEC4F100.

WORKBENCH 3.1

INSTALL             $27B3C15A  370299-98  International    v40.42
WORKBENCH           $576B08F9  370300-98  International    v40.42
EXTRAS              $786A7C59  370301-98  International    v40.42
FONTS               $A152083D  370301-99  International    v40.42
LOCALE              $92F2770A  370300-99  International    v40.42
STORAGE             $B16AE967  370299-99  International    v40.42

INSTALL             $          370299-97  International             A4000T
WORKBENCH           $          370300-97  International             A4000T
EXTRAS              $          370301-97  International             A4000T

WORKBENCH 3.5 (CD-ROM)

AMIGA OS 3.5        $          365535-31  International    v44.2

WORKBENCH 3.9 (CD-ROM)

AMIGA OS 3.9        $          ?          International    v45.1

WORKBENCH 4.0 developer pre-release (CD-ROM)

AMIGA OS 4.0        $          ?          International    v50.2    AmigaOne

WORKBENCH 4.0 (CD-ROM)

AMIGA OS 4.0        $          ?          International    v52.1

WORKBENCH 4.1 (CD-ROM)

AMIGA OS 4.1        $          ?          International    v52.2
.
Legenda:

The CRC32 checksums are shown in hexadecimal notation.

Bold Green color = verified by at least 2 different users / verified by 1 user and TOSEC / verified by the same user on 2 or more disks.
Blue color = verified by TOSEC ([!] flag).
Orange color = verified by 1 user.
Black color = the user who posted the CRC32 is not certain of the disk[s] unmodified/original condition.

Thanks to prowler, DamienD, DemonHellraiser, Redwood, TheCyberDruid, Marcuz, Rixa, zipper, pcGTW_Webmaster, Jope, Toni Wilen, Jonathan Drain, ganralf, the TOSEC guys


Some reference websites:
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/
http://www.amigaworld.de/workshops/kickstart-rom/
...

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Old 14 January 2009, 22:03   #2
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Hi Supamax,

Thanks for starting this thread. I hope it will eventually grow into a useful reference for all Amiga users.

To start with, here are the CRC32 checksums of the ADF images dumped from my Amiga OS 3.1 disk set, write-protected straight from the shrink-wrap:
INSTALL 3.1 - 901,120 bytes $27B3C15A
WORKBENCH 3.1 - 901,120 bytes $576B08F9
LOCALE 3.1 - 901,120 bytes $92F2770A
EXTRAS 3.1 - 901,120 bytes $786A7C59
FONTS 3.1 - 901,120 bytes $A152083D
STORAGE 3.1 - 901,120 bytes $B16AE967

I have colour-coded these checksums green to indicate that I am sure these disks have never been written to from new. I fact, I have three sets of these disks. Those I am not sure about I shall colour-code orange, until someone can confirm their validity. Out of habit, I have prefixed the checksums '$' to indicate hexadecimal notation, but I can change this if anyone finds it objectionable.

I have many more original Amiga OS disks and sets from 1.3 to 3.0. I shall dump them and post the checksums here as time permits.

I would encourage all users to contribute likewise to this thread in order to increase the certainty of the data.

Thankyou,

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Just as an FYI, the TOSEC WorkBench 3.1 disks that have the [!] flag also have exactly the same CRC32s as the ones you've listed above prowler:

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WOW, prowler, what a beautiful post!

Thank you soo much for the appreciation and contribution.
I'll add my checksums as soon as I can.

Massimo

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Just as an FYI, the TOSEC WorkBench 3.1 disks that have the [!] flag also have exactly the same CRC32s as the ones you've listed above prowler
Very good to know!
Although I don't know if Tosec [!]'s can be trusted 100% or not, this is a very good base to start with.
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Although I don't know if Tosec [!]'s can be trusted 100% or not, this is a very good base to start with.
The [!] flag means that it's been verified so can definitely be trusted
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The [!] flag means that it's been verified so can definitely be trusted
Thanks for that Damien!

I'm not familiar with TOSEC flags, so I wasn't sure what it meant either.

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Thanks for that Damien!

I'm not familiar with TOSEC flags, so I wasn't sure what it meant either.

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Have a look here mate! It's in .PDF http://panda.pt-server.com/amiga/tnc.pdf the linkie came from PandMonum from my thread http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=40404
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Have a look here mate! It's in .PDF http://panda.pt-server.com/amiga/tnc.pdf
Thanks for the link, DH & PandMonium!

That's just what I needed.
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Don't forget, according to PandMonium, it's not 100% accurate yet but it's close enough to use and follow

I think PandMonium needs to double check everything with TOSEC/TNC etc before the 100% claim, although for what I see it looks 100% to me

Once again cheers PandMonium for your help, knowledge and the .PDF, which is better and easier on the eyes than the original .TXT one
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I have two sets of Workbench 2.1 disks. The first set is version 38.35, but they were used when I received them, so I cannot be certain they have never been modified.

Code:
Workbench 2.1 (version 38.35)

(Disk)		(CRC32)
Install		$09A0CD0B
Workbench	$84B6898E
Locale		$0D6F6B6B
Extras		$0B64E83D
Fonts		$38DD8F2C
The second set is version 38.36. I did purchase these new, so I'm fairly confident they are unmodified. Nevertheless, it would be great if someone could confirm.

Code:
Workbench 2.1 (version 38.36)

(Disk)		(CRC32)
Install		$ACD65CCE
Workbench	$E028564B
Locale		$2C364018
Extras		$DC939851
Fonts		$88396CAE
Lastly, my Workbench 3.1 checksums agree with the ones posted above.

[EDIT] fix version number on second set.
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I have two sets of Workbench 2.1 disks. The first set is version 38.35, but they were used when I received them, so I cannot be certain they have never been modified.

The second set is version 38.36. I did purchase these new, so I'm fairly confident they are unmodified. Nevertheless, it would be great if someone could confirm.
Hi Redwood,

Thanks for adding your Workbench 2.1 checksums to this thread.

I also have a set of Workbench 2.1 disks, write-protected from new. I'll make it a priority to dump them in the next couple of days to see if I can confirm either of your sets.

Additionally, I'll report the version of the Workbench 3.1 set. (It slipped my mind to do this originally.)
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@ Redwood and prowler

Thank you very much for your contribution!
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It occurred to me that the Commodore/Escom part numbers would be a less ambiguous way of identifying precisely which disk a checksum refers to. I've added the part numbers to the table below:

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(Disk)		(CRC32)		(P/N)		(Revision)

Workbench 2.1

Fonts		$88396CAE	370169-01	38.36
Extras		$DC939851	370168-01	38.36
Locale		$2C364018	370170-01	38.36
Workbench	$E028564B	370167-02	38.36
Install		$ACD65CCE	370166-02	38.36

Fonts		$38DD8F2C	310169-01	38.35
Extras		$0B64E83D	310168-01	38.35
Locale		$0D6F6B6B	310170-01	38.35
Workbench	$84B6898E	310167-01	38.35
Install		$09A0CD0B	310166-01	38.35

Workbench 3.1

Fonts		$A152083D	370301-99	40.42
Extras		$786A7C59	370301-98	40.42
Locale		$92F2770A	370300-99	40.42
Workbench	$576B08F9	370300-98	40.42
Install		$27B3C15A	370299-98	40.42
Storage		$B16AE967	370299-99	40.42
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Good idea!
I'll update the first post
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Hi Supamax,

This thread is shaping up nicely. Well done, mate!

I should have some more checksums and version/part numbers to upload for you soon. I've got a dumping session planned for tomorrow.

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Old 04 February 2009, 12:25   #16
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Clearly I have too many Workbench disks. Here's the checksums of my Workbench 1.3 disks

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(Disk)		(CRC32)		(P/N)

Workbench 1.3

Workbench	$99F1D1FB	317746-01
Extras		$72FD2A4E	317748-01       
Kickstart	$F2486FD2	317747-01
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I have this evening dumped my Workbench 2.1 and 3.0 sets.

First, here are the CRC32 checksums of the ADF images dumped from my Amiga OS 2.1 disk set (version 38.36):
INSTALL 2.1 - $7CD65533 (P/N 370166-02)
WORKBENCH 2.1 - $6875BEF7 (P/N 370167-02)
EXTRAS 2.1 - $0A2F739A (P/N 370168-01)
FONTS 2.1 - $CDB3C7ED (P/N 370169-01)
LOCALE 2.1 - $8EFF6422 (P/N 370170-01)
I have colour-coded these checksums green, even though they do not agree with those for Redwood's version 38.36 set, because I bought these new from Eyetech and they have been write-protected straight from the wrapping.

Second, here are the CRC32 checksums of the ADF images dumped from my Amiga OS 3.0 disk sets (version 39.29), again write-protected from new:
WORKBENCH 3.0 - $A4D9752D (P/N 370127-02)
LOCALE 3.0 - $67835FE5 (P/N 370129-01)
EXTRAS 3.0 - $95DA642D (P/N 370128-01)
FONTS 3.0 - $242FF841 (P/N 370191-01)
STORAGE 3.0 - $0C8C24D5 (P/N 370150-01)
Again, I have colour-coded these checksums green to indicate that I am sure these disks have never been written to from new. I fact, I have two sets of these disks: One is an original Commodore Amiga set with the part numbers shown, and the second is an Eyetech set of "replacement" Workbench 3.0 disks. Both sets thave the same checksums.
These sets do not include an Install disk, but the Eyetech set was supplied with an "A1200 Hard Drive Partitioning & WB Installation disk", Serial Number HD00010362 with CRC32 checksum $
FEC4F100.

BTW, I can confirm that my Amiga OS 3.1 disk sets are version 40.42 with the same part numbers given by Redwood.

Next, I will dump my 2.04, 2.05 and 1.x sets.

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Intriguing... My Workbench 2.1 (v 38.36) disks were recently purchased, and don't even have a write protect tab (i.e. its impossible that they were ever written to). And yet the checksums you're seeing are different than mine.
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Intriguing... My Workbench 2.1 (v 38.36) disks were recently purchased, and don't even have a write protect tab (i.e. its impossible that they were ever written to). And yet the checksums you're seeing are different than mine.
Hi Redwood,

I guess they're both genuine sets. It would be most unlikely that every disk of either set had been accidentally written to. I wonder what checksums TOSEC has listed for this set. Maybe DamienD could enlighten us?
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Here are the CRC32 for the Install and Workbench disk from TOSEC :

Workbench v2.1 rev 38.36 (1992)(Commodore)(M10)(Disk 1 of 5)(Install).adf $D61709BB
Workbench v2.1 rev 38.36 (1992)(Commodore)(M10)(Disk 2 of 5)(Workbench).adf $48589399
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Here are the CRC32 for the Install and Workbench disk from TOSEC :

Workbench v2.1 rev 38.36 (1992)(Commodore)(M10)(Disk 1 of 5)(Install).adf $D61709BB
Workbench v2.1 rev 38.36 (1992)(Commodore)(M10)(Disk 2 of 5)(Workbench).adf $48589399
Thanks TCD!

Are there any CRCs32 listed for images with the TOSEC [!] flag, please?
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Well in the latest TOSEC Dat are only these two for the rev 38.36. The other ones have a [m] tag for being modified. So I would say these are the [!] ones, but I can't confirm it for sure.

Edit : For future reference I've attached the latest TOSEC Workbench dat
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Well in the latest TOSEC Dat are only these two for the rev 38.36. The other ones have a [m] tag for being modified. So I would say these are the [!] ones, but I can't confirm it for sure.
Thanks for looking. The problem is that neither Redwood's set nor mine have been written to from new, and yet these two disks in each set are different, not only from the corresponding disks in the other set, but also from the disks listed on TOSEC.

BTW, is it possible for anyone to browse the TOSEC database?

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BTW, is it possible for anyone to browse the TOSEC database?
Yes, even for you Look at the edit in my last post
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Yes, even for you Look at the edit in my last post
Thanks mate!

I opened this .dat file in WordPad in order to browse it. Is there a better, or even a recommended, application for viewing these files?
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For now WordPad (or any other text viewer/editor) have to do when you want to check CRC32 values or the like. DemonHellraiser made an Access Database of the ADF games dat and maybe he could do the same with the Workbench dat Also PandMonium has some tools to view/check the dat files, but he hasn't shared them (yet ).
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Here are the CRC32 checksums of the ADF images dumped from my Workbench 2.04 and 2.05 disk sets.

Amiga OS 2.04 (version 37.67):
WORKBENCH 2.04 - $57714D34 (P/N 367813-01)
EXTRAS 2.04 - $A019B6B9 (P/N 367824-01)
FONTS 2.04 - $2F88C0F6 (P/N 367825-01)

Amiga OS 2.05 International (version 37.71):
SCSI INSTALL DISK 2.05 - $C285C0AA (P/N 367826-03)
WORKBENCH 2.05 - $F8D3D145 (P/N 367813-03)
EXTRAS 2.05 - $80B91A94 (P/N 367824-04)
FONTS 2.05 - $1042D12F (P/N 367825-03)

I have colour-coded these checksums orange, because I did not purchase them new, so I cannot be certain they are unmodified.

As usual, it would be great to get some confirmation of these.
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Hello mates,
thank you all for your contribution .

I'll update the list ASAP, just been a bit busy

EDIT: I added the CRC32 of my "PRIMI PASSI" original disk. I don't know the P/N, because it's not written on the label...

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i cannot check the CRC from my disks, and it would be not needed anyway, as most of them had data saved on them at some point, but:

my copy of "Primi Passi" has this part number: 380921-04;

Workbench 1.3.2 rev 34.28 (ita) has p.n.: 317797-03
Extras 1.3 Basic 1.2 (international) has p.n.: 317788-01

my whole set of Workbench 3.0 has instead the same p.n. as the prowler' one.

maybe the stuff above in this post is not useful, but if needed i will try to check the disks with catwease.
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Here are the CRC32 checksums of the ADF images dumped from my Workbench 2.04 and 2.05 disk sets.

Amiga OS 2.04 (version 37.67):
WORKBENCH 2.04 - $57714D34 (P/N 367813-01)
EXTRAS 2.04 - $A019B6B9 (P/N 367824-01)
FONTS 2.04 - $2F88C0F6 (P/N 367825-01)
Confirming that the disks I got new in a ks2 upgrade package for A500 match those part numbers and check out the same as yours. In addition there is:

INSTALL 2.04 - $74F4F26B (P/N 367826-02)

I'm pretty sure they've not been modified, but its hard to be certain. Since you have the same checksums it seems fairly likely but I suppose some automatic modification could end up the same..

The Workbench 3.0 disks that were included with my A1200 also match yours in part numbers as well as checksums, but you were already certain of them.

When I first got me an A500 here in Finland, the disks included were Workbench 317796-01, Extras 317788-01 and The Very First 380921-02.
I'm almost certain the first two have been modified so I'm not listing them here, but I don't see why I would have touched The Very First. It currently checks out at $1AB58E91. No guarantees though, since I wasn't very careful at that time.
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my copy of "Primi Passi" has this part number: 380921-04
Hi Marco, is the P/N written on your "Primi Passi" disk label? Italian version, I suppose
If so, it's strange... Mine has a cyan color, Italian, and no P/N written on it...

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Hey, are you kidding?!

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Which information would you get by doing so?
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i cannot check the CRC from my disks, and it would be not needed anyway, as most of them had data saved on them at some point, but:

my copy of "Primi Passi" has this part number: 380921-04;

Workbench 1.3.2 rev 34.28 (ita) has p.n.: 317797-03
Extras 1.3 Basic 1.2 (international) has p.n.: 317788-01

my whole set of Workbench 3.0 has instead the same p.n. as the prowler' one.

maybe the stuff above in this post is not useful, but if needed i will try to check the disks with catwease.
Hi Marco,

I'm sure Supamax would say that all contributions to this thread are useful (especially the Italian stuff! ). It all helps to increase the confidence we can have in the data.

If you could, it would be great to have the checksums of those disks dumped with your Catweasel too.

Thanks,

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I'm sure Supamax would say that all contributions to this thread are useful (especially the Italian stuff! ). It all helps to increase the confidence we can have in the data.
Yes, that's exactly what I was meaning .

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Confirming that the disks I got new in a ks2 upgrade package for A500 match those part numbers and check out the same as yours. In addition there is:

INSTALL 2.04 - $74F4F26B (P/N 367826-02)

I'm pretty sure they've not been modified, but its hard to be certain. Since you have the same checksums it seems fairly likely but I suppose some automatic modification could end up the same..

The Workbench 3.0 disks that were included with my A1200 also match yours in part numbers as well as checksums, but you were already certain of them.

When I first got me an A500 here in Finland, the disks included were Workbench 317796-01, Extras 317788-01 and The Very First 380921-02.
I'm almost certain the first two have been modified so I'm not listing them here, but I don't see why I would have touched The Very First. It currently checks out at $1AB58E91. No guarantees though, since I wasn't very careful at that time.
Hi Rixa,

Thanks for your contribution, mate!

I also have The Very First disk. Strictly speaking, it's not a Workbench disk, but I'll check mine and see if it gives the same checksum.

BTW, due to the nature of the data being gathered on this thread and the way that the certainty is being categorized, it would be useful if you could check those included Workbench and Extras disks anyway.

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I also have The Very First disk. Strictly speaking, it's not a Workbench disk, but I'll check mine and see if it gives the same checksum.
Hi prowler,
you are right about "Primi Passi"/"The Very First"/.., it's not part of the Workbench set.
Should I not consider it in (delete from) the list?
I don't even know if it came out after/along with WB 1.2 or 1.3 ... but I suspect it was 1.3.

My original "Primi Passi" disk was probably given to me by a friend of mine named Carlo. I don't remember it (if it was really him who gave me that disk), incredible... 20 years have passed yet
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Hi prowler,
you are right about "Primi Passi"/"The Very First"/.., it's not part of the Workbench set.
Should I not consider it in (delete from) the list?
I don't even know if it came out after/along with WB 1.2 or 1.3 ... but I suspect it was 1.3.

My original "Primi Passi" disk was probably given to me by a friend of mine named Carlo. I don't remember it, incredible... 20 years have passed yet
Ah, now I know what "Primi Passi" means. (I was afraid to ask!)

IFAIK, The Very First was part of the software 'bundle' that originally came with a new A500 (the other parts being the Workbench and Extras disks). It is an interactive tutorial program which teaches new users the features of and how to use the Amiga hardware and software.

It's probably worth including here, as it's such an important disk. And it will be interesting to see how many languages were produced.

Back in the days when I first heard of "The Very First", I thought it was Commodore-speak for Workbench 1.0!

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Thanks for the WB 3.0 CRC's .
Can your v39.29 be listed as International?

About the various "Primi Passi/The Very First/etc." releases, I always saw them with a 1987 date on the label... so it's probably 1.2 *minimum* but almost surely 1.3. For example, when I bought my A500 here in Italy (one of the very first sold here, with U.S. keyboard and the round label "U.S." on the space key) it was not included. I remember now: I found in the package 2 disks: WB 1.2 and EXTRAS/BASIC 1.2.
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Thanks for the WB 3.0 CRC's .
Can your v39.29 be listed as International?

About the various "Primi Passi/The Very First/etc." releases, I always saw them with a 1987 date on the label... so it's probably 1.2 *minimum* but almost surely 1.3. For example, when I bought my A500 here in Italy (one of the very first sold here, with U.S. keyboard and the round label "U.S." on the space key) it was not included. I remember now: I found in the package 2 disks: WB 1.2 and EXTRAS/BASIC 1.2.
Hi Supamax,

My WB 3.0 disks are not marked as "International" or anything else, but perhaps by this time it they were understood to be the International version unless marked otherwise. (My 2.05 disks are the latest to be marked "International".)

I'll dig my "The Very First" disk out tomorrow and see what's on the label.
Incidentally, I uploaded this disk to The Zone at one time and it is now available on Magix's FTP in "The Zone!" subfolder if anyone would like a copy. Filename: "The Very First.zip".

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My WB 3.0 disks are not marked as "International" or anything else, but perhaps by this time it they were understood to be the International version unless marked otherwise. (My 2.05 disks are the latest to be marked "International".)
Ok, then... International!

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These sets do not include an Install disk, but the Eyetech set was supplied with an "A1200 Hard Drive Partitioning & WB Installation disk", Serial Number HD00010362 with CRC32 checksum $FEC4F100.
Hi prowler,
is the above disk branded by Commodore, with a commercial label? Or was it prepared by a shop/reseller/etc.?

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Hi boys ,
I updated the list (including TOSEC [!]-only data from the attached file by TCD) and slightly modified the Legenda .

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