Hot trained games not in Tosec!

[Belgarath]

Just call me Sir.
It's easier to remember and type

[DamienD]

Phew, all complete... Updated / uploaded the full pack, single 7zip files and here's a new DAT

Lucky I have quite a good download / upload speed with my ISP hey, though I did have to lower my torrent speed for a bit

@maimai; you can now start again at "TrainerPack01(not in TOSEC).rar"

[DamienD]

Hmmm, while doing some renaming I noticed that sometimes in the TOSEC DATs there are "country" or "language" appeviations in both lower case or sentence case e.g. "de-en" and "Dk" / "Fr" / "It" / "Pl"

Spoke with Sir Belgo about this and he offered his insight / wisdom

Originally Posted by Belgarath

Unfortunately I've no idea where the latest TNC is and my memory is somewhat shakey but basically there's a language flag and a country flag but the country flag only gets used if the language is different then what you'd expect i.e.

Nebulus (19xx)(United Software)(De)(en)[1587]

country flag first followed by language

so looking at that country should always start with an uppercase letter and the language flag is always lowercase.

so if you saw (De) on it's own then it's the country, the language is the same so there's no need for a language flag

if it had two languages like english and german then it doesn't get a country flag but it does get a language flag which is always lowercase so (en-de).

hope that makes sense

Yeah, I think so. Cheers

...that means that I need to change 2 entries in the maimai pack:


Cedric and the Lost Sceptre (1995)(neo)(En-De)(Disk 1 of 6)[cr HF][t +4 HF].adf
*** changed to ***
Cedric and the Lost Sceptre (1995)(neo)(en-de)(Disk 1 of 6)[cr HF][t +4 HF].adf


Cedric and the Lost Sceptre (1995)(neo)(En-De)(Disk 2 of 6)[cr HF].adf
*** changed to ***
Cedric and the Lost Sceptre (1995)(neo)(en-de)(Disk 2 of 6)[cr HF].adf


Updated the full pack, single 7zip files and here's a new DAT... Hopefully that is everything and no more changes need to be made

Sorry for the f$%kups I've made so far guys

[Marcuz]

Originally Posted by Belgarath

And you still can't get my name right either

i do! look: belg-a-rath! it has exactly the sound of someone shaking strongly a dead dried up rat covered in molasses, for unknown purposes; action that, in fact, is the meaning of the name Belgarath.

why one would want to do such a thing in the first place, it is, of course, unknown, as much as who it was the first one to try.

however, the molasses is told to have been danish.

On the other hand, i'll wait a couple of days, from now, on to ever rename something. you guys inspire me so much confidence!

[PandMonium]

Some other infos about Country and Language fields:

Country

This field is used to classify the country of origin. Some systems will have a standard country, and this should be omitted from the individual entries and a comment could be placed in the comment field of a .dat to reflect this.

Country Flag Possibilities:

Flag     Description      
AE     United Arab Emirates     
Al     Albania     
As     Asia     
At     Austria     
Au     Australia     
Ba     Bosnia and Herzegovina     
Be     Belgium     
Bg     Bulgaria     
Br     Brazil     
Ca     Canada     
Ch     Switzerland     
Cn     China     
Cs     Serbia and Montenegro     
Cy     Cyprus     
Cz     Czech Republic     
De     Germany     
Dk     Denmark     
Ee     Estonia     
Eg     Egypt     
Es     Spain     
Eu     Europe     
Fi     Finland     
Fr     France     
GB     United Kingdom     
Gr     Greece     
HK     Hong Kong     
Hr     Croatia     
Hu     Hungary     
Id     Indonesia     
Ie     Ireland     
In     India     
Ir     Iran     
Is     Iceland     
It     Italy     
Jo     Jordan     
Jp     Japan     
Kr     South Korea     
Lt     Lithuania     
Lu     Luxembourg     
Lv     Latvia     
Mn     Mongolia     
Mx     Mexico     
My     Malaysia     
NA     North America     
NZ     New Zealand     
Nl     Netherlands     
No     Norway     
Np     Nepal     
Oc     Oceania     
Om     Oman     
Ph     Philippines     
Pl     Poland     
Pt     Portugal     
Qa     Qatar     
Ro     Romania     
Ru     Russia     
SA     South America     
Se     Sweden     
Sg     Singapore     
Si     Slovenia     
Sk     Slovakia     
Th     Thailand     
Tr     Turkey     
Tw     Taiwan     
US     United States     
Vn     Vietnam     
ZA     South Africa

In the case of two countries being required, both are given separated by a hyphen:
Ex: (De-GB) Released in Germany and the United Kingdom
Ex: (De-Fr) Released in France and Germany
Ex: (Eu-US) Released in Europe and the US

Country Flag Samples:

• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(US)
• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(Jp)
• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(De)
• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(De-Fr)

Language

The language used in game.

Some systems will have a standard language, and this should be omitted from the individual entries, for example, Atmos Oric is predominantly a French system, so in an Atmos Oric datfile only non‐French software would need this field entering (so you don't end marking all sets (fr)). Typically, English only titles do not require marking as such.

In cases of more than two languages or countries being required, (Mx) is used to represent multiple languages, where x is the number of languages.

Ex: (M3) for 3 languages
Ex: (M4) for 4 languages
Ex: "Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(M3)"

In the case of two languages being required, both are given separated by a hyphen:
Ex: (en‐fr) Contains English and French versions
Ex: (es-pt) Contains Spanish and Portuguese versions
Ex: (de-fr) Contains Deutsch and French versions

NOTE: When 2 languages are in use they should be alphabetically ordered, if one is english then it always comes first [eg. (en-xx)].

Language Flag Possibilities:

Flag     Description     
al     Albanian      
ar     Arabic      
ba     Bosnian      
bg     Bulgarian      
cn     Chinese      
cs     Serbian      
cy     Welsh      
cz     Czech      
de     German      
dk     Danish      
ee     Estonian      
en     English      
eo     Esperanto      
es     Spanish      
fi     Finnish      
fr     French      
gr     Greek      
gu     Gujarati      
he     Hebrew      
hi     Hindi      
hr     Croatian      
hu     Hungarian      
ie     Irish      
ir     Persian      
is     Icelandic      
it     Italian      
jp     Japanese      
kr     Korean      
lt     Lithuanian      
lv     Latvian      
my     Malay      
nl     Dutch      
no     Norwegian      
pl     Polish      
pt     Portuguese      
ro     Romanian      
ru     Russian      
se     Swedish      
si     Slovenian      
sk     Slovakian      
th     Thai      
tr     Turkish      
ur     Urdu      
vn     Vietnamese     
yi     Yiddish

Language Flag Samples

• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(de)
• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(pt)
• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(de-fr)

Thats it, hope it helped, i've already said it before but all flags have to follow an specific order and when both are used, language is always after the country flag.

Anything more just ask

[killergorilla]

Originally Posted by PandMonium

Ex: (En‐De) Contains English and German versions
• Legend of TOSEC, The (1986)(Devstudio)(Fr-De)
Ex: (pt‐es) Contains Portuguese and Spanish versions
Ex: (fr‐de) Contains French and Deutsch versions

I would presume some of those are in the wrong order, because I always thought the languages were in alphabetical order?

So (En-De) would actually be (De-En) for example.

[PandMonium]

humm good question,
i have the idea that when En or en is present they always tried to put it in the first place [(en-de) instead of (de-en)], about the others i have no idea if there is a rule and if the rule is to use alphabetical order but i guess it would be better to have some rule, hope someone knows it or we will have to wait for [idoru] explanation.

[mai]

Apidya (1992)(Play Byte)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX][t +23 SCX]
Cardiaxx (1991)(Electronic Zoo)[cr IP][t +4 IP]
Elvira II - The Jaws of Cerberus (1992)(Accolade)(De)(Disk 1 of 7)[cr Venture][t +12 Schlappi]
Eye of the Beholder (1991)(SSI)(Disk 1 of 3)[cr SKR][t +24 Schlappi]
Harlequin (1992)(Gremlin)(Disk 2 of 3)(1 & Program)[cr SKR][t +7 SCX][bootable]
International Ninja Rabbits (1989)(MicroValue)[cr Nemesis][t +5 IP]
Keys to Maramon, The (1990)(Mindcraft)[cr SKR][t +5 Metallians]
Shadowlands (1992)(Domark)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr SKR][t +13 AFL]
VideoKid (1992)(Gremlin)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr FLT][t +6 SCX]
VideoKid (1992)(Gremlin)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr FLT][t +8 SCX]

CRC check ok, all not in TOSEC.
Uploaded to MagixFTP
I have compared with HOL database and last TOSEC-dat.

I hope in the next post CD, DamienD or even Sir Belgarath can write:
"Congratulation, there are zero errors".

[Belgarath]

Congratulations, there is only one error

And it's not really your fault.

Keys to Maramon, The (1990)(Mindcraft)[cr SKR][t +5 Metallians]
should be
Keys to Maramon, The (1991)(Mindcraft)[cr SKR][t +5 Metallians]

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by maimai

I hope in the next post CD, DamienD or even Sir Belgarath can write:
"Congratulation, there are zero errors".

You almost got it maimai Some fine trainers in this one Thank you very much maimai

[Marcuz]

trainer for eye of Beholder??? this almost takes the fun away...

thanks for the update!

[Old Fool]

THANKS FOR SPECIAL FORCES AND APIDYA TRAINER!!!

Special Forces didn't have a trainer and now I must see if the Apidya trainer contains a level selector.

[plasmatron]

Is trainer pack 01 the latest update pack ?

[mai]

Originally Posted by plasmatron

Is trainer pack 01 the latest update pack ?

Yes, it is.

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by plasmatron

Is trainer pack 01 the latest update pack ?

Yup. If you missed one of the older packs I can upload it again in another folder

Edit : maimai was faster

[mai]

Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDY][t +2 AC]
Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX]
Cyber Cop (1991)(Energize)[cr CSL][t +4 Goonies]
Hudson Hawk (1991)(Ocean)[cr CSL][t +3 Ache & Extensors]
Jetstrike (1993)(Rasputin)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr PSG][t +1 AC]
Smus v1.1 (1994)(L.K. Avalon)[cr Invaders][t +5 Invaders]
Super Stardust (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 6)[cr PSG][t +4 Crimewatch UK]
T-Bird (1989)(Virgin Mastertronic)[cr OCL][t +2 Risk]
X-it (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC]
X-it (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +19 HLM]

CRC check ok, all not in TOSEC.
Uploaded to MagixFTP
I have compared with HOL database and last TOSEC-dat.
This time i have checked the "t tag" closer, to be more accurate.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by maimai

Apidya (1992)(Play Byte)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX][t +23 SCX]
<snip>

Cheers maimai

Originally Posted by Belgarath

Keys to Maramon, The (1990)(Mindcraft)[cr SKR][t +5 Metallians]
should be
Keys to Maramon, The (1991)(Mindcraft)[cr SKR][t +5 Metallians]

Noted

...have individually 7zipped all the new files in "TrainerPack01(not in TOSEC).rar" and uploaded them to /rare_games/GamesTrainers (not in TOSEC)/Trainer - Single Disk Archives

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by maimai

Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDY][t +2 AC]
Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX]
Cyber Cop (1991)(Energize)[cr CSL][t +4 Goonies]
Hudson Hawk (1991)(Ocean)[cr CSL][t +3 Ache & Extensors]
Jetstrike (1993)(Rasputin)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr PSG][t +1 AC]
Smus v1.1 (1994)(L.K. Avalon)[cr Invaders][t +5 Invaders]
Super Stardust (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 6)[cr PSG][t +4 Crimewatch UK]
T-Bird (1989)(Virgin Mastertronic)[cr OCL][t +2 Risk]
X-it (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC]
X-it (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +19 HLM]

CRC check ok, all not in TOSEC.
Uploaded to MagixFTP
I have compared with HOL database and last TOSEC-dat.
This time i have checked the "t tag" closer, to be more accurate.

Many thanks for these maimai

I've run some checks, here's what I've found:

Hudson Hawk (1991)(Ocean)[cr CSL][t +3 Ache & Extensors].adf
*** should be***
Hudson Hawk (1991)(Ocean)[cr CSL][t +3 Ache + Extensors].adf

Jetstrike (1993)(Rasputin)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr PSG][t +1 AC].adf
*** should be***
Jetstrike (1993)(Rasputin)(AGA)(Disk 2 of 5)(1)[cr PSG][t +1 AC][bootable].adf


These filenames are currently in TOSEC:

Bubble and Squeak (1995)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX].adf {CRC32: 87022CBF}

Bubble and Squeak (1995)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX][a].adf {CRC32: CA482708}

X-It (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC].adf {CRC32: 909B28A4}


This means that the new versions in your pack should be named:

Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX].adf {CRC32: 38E10F47}
*** should be***
Bubble and Squeak (1995)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX][a2].adf

X-It (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC].adf {CRC32: 3BC0B813}
*** should be***
X-It (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC][a].adf


...have individually 7zipped all the new files in "TrainerPack02(not in TOSEC).rar" and uploaded them to /rare_games/GamesTrainers (not in TOSEC)/Trainer - Single Disk Archives

[mai]

Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX].adf {CRC32: 38E10F47}
*** should be***
Bubble and Squeak (1995)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX][a2].adf

X-It (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC].adf {CRC32: 3BC0B813}
*** should be***
X-It (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC][a].adf

Thank you for checking, DamienD.
If the same trainer for the same game/crack already exists this files should be removed from my pack.
I dont like thousands [a], [a1], [a2] and so on.
But remember this is my personal opinion.
Tell me about.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by maimai

If the same trainer for the same game/crack already exists this files should be removed from my pack.
I dont like thousands [a], [a1], [a2] and so on.
But remember this is my personal opinion.
Tell me about.

I don't agree, you should keep all alternative versions...

Without testing the whole crack, who's to say that "Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX].adf" works perfectly all the way through. The same can be said for "Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX][a].adf" and "Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX][a2].adf"...

There are many good examples of why to keep [a] versions in the The bad cracks / 100% working games thread. Here and here for instance

[mai]

Originally Posted by DamienD

I don't agree, you should keep all alternative versions...

There are many good examples of why to keep [a] versions in the The bad cracks / 100% working games thread. Here and here for instance

Probably you are right.My opinion remains.
In some cases a [a]version is inevitably, especially NDOS-disks.
But sometimes only 1 byte is different, so you have different crc32.
For example:edited startup-sequence

[TheCyberDruid]

Have I ever mentioned that we really need the [!] tag for more games? Like Damien said you never know if an [a] version might be the correct dump while the 'normal' disk is bogus. On the other hand I agree with maimai, because even a saved hiscore changes the CRC32. I will try to play through some of the new trainers and report if they are completely playable, so we can start to mark the disks with [!]'s

[mai]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Have I ever mentioned that we really need the [!] tag for more games?

Yes, you have.

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

On the other hand I agree with maimai, because even a saved hiscore changes the CRC32.

I said it before, too.

[andreas]

... moved to correction thread - after bip's subject change, I realized I was OT

[Old Fool]

Originally Posted by maimai

Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDY][t +2 AC]
Bubble and Squeak (1994)(Audiogenic)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PDX][t +7 ATX]
Cyber Cop (1991)(Energize)[cr CSL][t +4 Goonies]
Hudson Hawk (1991)(Ocean)[cr CSL][t +3 Ache & Extensors]
Jetstrike (1993)(Rasputin)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr PSG][t +1 AC]
Smus v1.1 (1994)(L.K. Avalon)[cr Invaders][t +5 Invaders]
Super Stardust (1994)(Team 17)(AGA)(Disk 1 of 6)[cr PSG][t +4 Crimewatch UK]
T-Bird (1989)(Virgin Mastertronic)[cr OCL][t +2 Risk]
X-it (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +7 AC]
X-it (1995)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[t +19 HLM]

CRC check ok, all not in TOSEC.
Uploaded to MagixFTP
I have compared with HOL database and last TOSEC-dat.
This time i have checked the "t tag" closer, to be more accurate.

HMMM.... A new version of HUDSON HAWK, great! Alltough this is another Crystal crack so it might be that this one either won't work with my Amiga! I have tested all those versions from TOSEC and every time the same thing:

Amiga loads the game about 2 seconds and then it hangs with absolutely horrible disk torture sound from the drive. I mean the sound is very loud, it's like some one would be drilling inside the machine!!

[andreas]

Guys I need your help on this!

I've put the umpteenth version of the SKR crack of ShockWave in the zone.

TOSEC holds two hacks of the SKR TRAINED version:
[h Spaikers] and [h Decay].

Can anyone confirm my assumption that this one does not deserve a [h ...]?

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by andreas

Guys I need your help on this!

I've put the umpteenth version of the SKR crack of ShockWave in the zone.

TOSEC holds two hacks of the SKR TRAINED version:
[h Spaikers] and [h Decay].

Can anyone confirm my assumption that this one does not deserve a [h ...]?

There is no sign of a hack by any other group. Only files by Skid Row on the disk and no other cracktro or something when it loads. I would also say this is a genuine Skid Row crack. Nice find andreas
Edit : Hmm, but in this version the Skid Row cracktro is removed. Don't know what that means...

[andreas]

This one is directly off an old CD, not modified. (Also write protected after unDMSing to be sure nothing got written to it)

That aside, a question:

What is the latest Compilations-Games dat? I have 2006-04.17, maybe there's a newer one. This compilation stuff should be revised ASAP because I have tons of Astronut compacts which all should be in there. (but maybe need some renaming fixes first)

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by andreas

That aside, a question:

What is the latest Compilations-Games dat? I have 2006-04.17, maybe there's a newer one. This compilation stuff should be revised ASAP because I have tons of Astronut compacts which all should be in there. (but maybe need some renaming fixes first)

The newest is 'Commodore Amiga - Compilations - Games (TOSEC-v2006-09-10_CM).dat'. I've uploaded it to the zone for you.

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

There is no sign of a hack by any other group. Only files by Skid Row on the disk and no other cracktro or something when it loads. I would also say this is a genuine Skid Row crack. Nice find andreas
Edit : Hmm, but in this version the Skid Row cracktro is removed. Don't know what that means...

Doesn't make any difference, all Skid Row versions are not 100% cracked properly, the enemy patterns are all screwed up because the Copylock wasn't decoded and the code inside ripped and executed.

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Doesn't make any difference, all Skid Row versions are not 100% cracked properly, the enemy patterns are all screwed up because the Copylock wasn't decoded and the code inside ripped and executed.

Thanks for the info Galahad. Is the Classic crack 100% then?

[andreas]

Interesting insight, thanks Galahad.
How does this "enemy patterns" thing actually make visible to the player?
(making the game too hard or what??)

@Cyber
Thanks for the dat.
But I think I've had it now with these bit-by-bit requests...
Can anyone point me to a location where I can get ALL the latest DATs so that I do not have to request file by file and get too annoying? (RC/CM format please!)

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by andreas

@Cyber
Thanks for the dat.
But I think I've had it now with these bit-by-bit requests...
Can anyone point me to a location where I can get ALL the latest DATs so that I do not have to request file by file and get too annoying? (RC/CM format please!)

You can get the lastest package here : http://www.tosec.org/

[PandMonium]

and if you also want ISO dats you can get the latest WIP ones in www.toseciso.org, some are updates to the ones existing in tosec.org and others are new

[andreas]

tosec.org has a package for download for RC/CM users? Are you really serious?
Well, by now, I have only seen tosec.org advertise their TIM bloatware, so I did not bother looking there anymore...

I haven't gone there yet, but I could assume you will have to register again to download the dat.
In the meantime, I've found it myself

http://www.romshepherd.com/oldnews.php

-> scroll down to 14th March 2007 and you can get the complete DAT!!

One thing is funny too: these dats are *NEWER* than the ones you can download bit by bit on the same site! ( http://www.romshepherd.com/dats.php?tosec )
Games-ADF: inside the zip, you will find the 2006-10-19, but as single file, they still have 2006-06-15! (note this was only an example, the majority of files on the single-file page are too old, so don't bother downloading those)

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by andreas

tosec.org has a package for download for RC/CM users? Are you really serious?

Yes I am. The dats are all CM compatible (I think they are even made with it, since TIM isn't errorfree ) and no you don't have to register. Sometimes the answer is just one click away...

[PandMonium]

like TheCyberDruid said they are all available at tosec.org, its even in the main page you just have to scroll down a bit, actually there is no other (useful) page for now since we lost the .info were the site/forum was hosted.

About romshepherd, the individual dats aren't up to date but the first 2 entries are (came from tosec.org):
.TOSEC DAT Collection - Complete (TOSEC-v2007-03-14 CM) (18.38 MB)
.TOSEC New & Updated Only (TOSEC-v2007-03-14 CM) (9.47 MB)

From tosec.org:
Most recent complete dat pack (20070314 - 746 dats)
New and updated dats from last release (20070314 - 218 dats)
ISO Cuesheet pack

From toseciso.org:
Download current dats (latest iso wip dats - v2008-09-28 - 90 dats)

[andreas]

Thanks both of you.

(OT stuff moved to correction thread)

[pepinos]

can anyone point me, from where i can download the TrainerPack volumes?

thanks for any help

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by pepinos

can anyone point me, from where i can download the TrainerPack volumes?

thanks for any help

They are on Magix FTP. You will also find a lot of other things there