WinUAE 1.5.2 beta series

[Toni Wilen]

Read this before replying: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26715

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae_1520b1.zip

Beta 1: (crashing bug = this will be quick beta series, really!..)

- 4th floppy drive track display number was clipped in windowed mode
- non-vsync RTG mode run in "warp"-mode if native mode was set to fullscreen+vsync
- USB "non-friendly" name buffer overflow, caused random crashes and weird behavior, including uae-configuration issue. (1.5.1)
- sprite garbage was possible if sprite(s) active during resolution change from higher to lower resolution (AGA only) (1.5.0)
- OpenAL sound support (experimental, OpenAL may be better API for new AHI driver than DSound) Note that OpenAL uses internally DirectSound if sound card does not have native OpenAL support. "Generic Hardware" = DSound wrapper, "Generic Software" = WaveOut wrapper (really bad), something else = native support. OpenAL sound devices only available if OpenAL is installed. DO NOT ASK something like "What is OpenAL". Learn to use search engines first or ignore this feature.

[Mad-Matt]

Is there a new AHI driver to test with OpenAL ?

Setting AL doesnt work right and produced bad sound. I did have bad sound with ahi on the 1510 release but latest ahitweak seemed to have fixed that.

Im Using a X-Fi with latest recent driver release and alchemy to enable hardware direct sound within winuae (not sure if it makes use of it though as direct sound was working without alchemy). Oh and on Vista64

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

Is there a new AHI driver to test with OpenAL ?

No. (at least not yet). I still don't have reliable solution for very short samples (chip modules..) and dynamic samples if they are updated while playing. (unfortunately AHI allows this..)

Setting AL doesnt work right and produced bad sound. I did have bad sound with ahi on the 1510 release but latest ahitweak seemed to have fixed that.

Im Using a X-Fi with latest recent driver release and alchemy to enable hardware direct sound within winuae (not sure if it makes use of it though as direct sound was working without alchemy). Oh and on Vista64

Auzen X-Fi Prelude seems to work fine but randomly it gets stuck and fills log with error messages

[Anubis]

uae-configuration still does not work.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Anubis

uae-configuration still does not work.

"Works fine here".

Hint: it means "more information needed"

[Anubis]

Can you post your command line? Is it only one change in config or more then one?

Here are my 2 lines from whdload.prefs

ExecuteStartup=uae-configuration cpu_speed real cachesize 0
ExecuteCleanup=uae-configuration cpu_speed max cachesize 8192

Those 2 lines I didn't change and they worked with older version of WinUAE.

EDIT

I just tried single command and still the same results. No change in WinUAE settings but no error either.

EDIT 2

I tried WinUAE 1.46 and it works fine. It will take command and change settings without any problems.

[Toni Wilen]

My command line is "uae-configuration" -> all config entries gets listed. No parameters.

No example = I will always "fall back" to most simple solution

[Anubis]

One more thing,

my firewall is detecting that winuae is trying to access internet.

The IP WinUAE is trying to reach: 169.254.10.150

Also it tried to connect to one of the other computers on my LAN.

Any idea why is this happening?

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Anubis

One more thing,

my firewall is detecting that winuae is trying to access internet.

The IP WinUAE is trying to reach: 169.254.10.150

Also it tried to connect to one of the other computers on my LAN.

Any idea why is this happening?

First, 169.254.x.x is private address.
Second, how should I know? MORE INFORMATION, it can't be that difficult to do some tests first... It can be some Amiga side program if you have bsdsocket or uaenet enabled.

[Anubis]

Tony, in amiga shell I type:

uae-configuration cpu_speed real

which should move cpu speed to match A500, and it does not do anything. As I said, same thing in 1.46 does change CPU speed.

Same line, but instead of real - max changes CPU speed to max.

With old one does changes, but with new one does not.

[Mad-Matt]

working fine for me (although I use A500 in place of Real on your line)

Only thing not working is emu returning to direct mode during execute cleanup phase.

[Toni Wilen]

Does plain "uae-configuration" list all config entries?
Can you change same setting using GUI? And exactly what is your configuration?

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

First, 169.254.x.x is private address.
Second, how should I know? MORE INFORMATION, it can't be that difficult to do some tests first... It can be some Amiga side program if you have bsdsocket or uaenet enabled.

My LAN is 192.168.x.x.

ZoneAlarm does not tell any more details except that WinUAE is trying to access the internet with option to allow or deny.

Neither one of those options is enabled on my setip. (bsdsocket or uaenet)

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Anubis

My LAN is 192.168.x.x.

169.254.x.x is address that is used if no DHCP available.

ZoneAlarm

Right.. I'll ignore this until some other firewall complains, ZA sucks. (mine don't except if bsdsocket is enabled)

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Does plain "uae-configuration" list all config entries?
Can you change same setting using GUI? And exactly what is your configuration?

No, when I just type uae-configuration nothing happens.

If I load the same HD with older version of WinUAE, and type plain uae-configuration it lists all settings.



As for network access, I'm not sure if you can view this link.

Does anyone else has firewall localy installed on computer they used to run WinUAE on?

[tonyyeb]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Right.. I'll ignore this until some other firewall complains, ZA sucks.

Quoted for truth.

@Anubis: Get a better firewall!

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Anubis

As I said, same thing in 1.46 does change CPU speed.

I thought this was about 1.5.2 betas... So what exactly was the last working version? (Very soon I'll decide to ignore this problem completely if I can't get ENOUGH INFORMATION. This is getting nowhere, unfortunately)

[Anubis]

Originally Posted by tonyyeb

Quoted for truth.

@Anubis: Get a better firewall!

I never had any problems with Zone Alarm (not free one) except once that MS update blocked internet (something to do with core changes).

Wonder what you guys use for firewall.

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I thought this was about 1.5.2 betas... So what exactly was the last working version? (Very soon I'll decide to ignore this problem completely if I can't get ENOUGH INFORMATION. This is getting nowhere, unfortunately)

I used 1.46 just to check if I type command correctly and to see if my 'uae-configuration' file in C folder is working.


I was testing it with 1.5.2 b1 and it does not work. Is there updated beta version?

[Toni Wilen]

Do you have "UAE" harddrive or directory harddrive? (or just enable uaeserial.device temporarily or set >2M chip). Since 1.5.0+ "uae boot" rom is not enabled unless it is needed by some device driver.

[Anubis]

System disk is harddrive file, while game disk is directory harddrive.

When I changed chip memory to more then 2MB it works.

How do you enable uaeserial.device?

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Anubis

System disk is harddrive file, while game disk is directory harddrive.

When I changed chip memory to more then 2MB it works.

Harddrive should already enable it, I guess this really is a bug (Why disabled? It is more compatible and some naughty programs can use it for emulation detection)

[Dunny]

Originally Posted by Anubis

I never had any problems with Zone Alarm (not free one) except once that MS update blocked internet (something to do with core changes).

Wonder what you guys use for firewall.

Not wanting to derail this thread too far, but I was quite surprised to find people still using ZA even though it's well known to be one of the worst pieces of "security software" you can install (though probably not as bad as the Norton suites).

Myself, I use the windows built-in firewall - it does the job, and it uses very few system resources to do so. Of course, I don't tend to run software that I don't trust, so I don't need an all-singing, all-dancing security solution. In fact, I've been running vista for a year now with no other security installed (no Antivirus or malware scanner) with no problems, and I'm still running XP on two other machines with similar security - never had a virus or malware problem, never had to reinstall windows either.

No security suite can come close to good old common sense, imo.

D.

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by Anubis

The IP WinUAE is trying to reach: 169.254.10.150

My guess is that there is some network related component somewhere that hooks to some other component and so on and winuae loads some related dll. Especially if it happens before GUI opens. (does it?)

Run winuae with -log parameter and paste last ~10 lines in log window when the firewall notice appears.

[spajdr]

Sorry for offtopic, but Anubis, if you want some good firewall and for free, try Comodo Firewall Pro :-)

[Rabbit80]

Slight bug - I havent tested any other versions but I expect that it will be an ancient one....

On the disk swapper screen if the filename is too long - when you expand the column to see the full name you can not click in the drive column anymore. The interface expects a click where the column was.

[andreas]

The IP WinUAE is trying to reach: 169.254.10.150

Uhh.
I know these IPs from the time when my old WLAN card went bonkers again and tried to (re)connect forever...(when it worked, 169.254.* were gone)

For me, 169.254.* always smells like trouble

[Anubis]

I deleted my program entries for WinUAE in ZoneAlarm and retried to produce warning with log parameter.

Latest beta didn't create any ZA warnings, while older versions did.

So I would just ignore this stupid error report.

ps. To the guy who uses windowz firewall, telling me that using ZA is mistake:





I got full version of ZA and I never experienced any problems with it.

On the other hand as someone already mentioned, I had some problems with Norton Security (end point).

[hexaae]

Bug in Filter page.
If I load a saved filter cfg, the specific values won't take effect on the screen stretching until I click on every single slider.
I use filter Enable Direct 3D, Blinear 32bit, horiz. vert. x2... I usually have 2 cfg: Pal and Ntsc.

[jharrison]

*edit

[Dunny]

Originally Posted by Anubis

ps. To the guy who uses windowz firewall, telling me that using ZA is mistake:

[insert childish image here]

Feel free to enlighten me on what I'm missing out on. Take it to PM if you're concerned about derailing the thread. Bear in mind I've been running my system like this for more than 5 years now with no problems :-p

D.

[Toni Wilen]

Non-WinUAE related firewall talk ends here.

[Toni Wilen]

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae_1520b2.zip

Beta 2:

- RTG mode and width set to bigger than resolution (autoscroll) = bottom part of display was not updated (1.5.0)
- windowed mode minimize and restore, only title bar was visible
- mute on/off inputevent fixed
- added analog joystick emulation multiplier and offset config entries (not in GUI yet)
- analog joystick emulation improvements, pot line (=2nd/3rd firebutton) capacitor charging/discharging emulated. Not yet perfect, F19 Stealth Fighter still not working in analog joy mode.
- directory harddrive/uaehf.device hardfile didn't enable uaelib hooks (used by uae-configuration/uaectrl)
- added log message if bsdsocket host-side initialization fails
- filter preset load didn't redraw the display using new parameters

[Mclane]

Minor bug, beta 2 is called beta 1 in the about window and the title window.

[TheCyberDruid]

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

- directory harddrive/uaehf.device hardfile didn't enable uaelib hooks (used by uae-configuration/uaectrl)

That fixed my uae-configuration bug in the startup-sequence. Thank you very much Toni

[Toni Wilen]

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae_1520b3.zip

Beta 3:

- bsdsocket initialization rewritten, should be more reliable now if uae rom is moved and/or other extra residents enabled (I don't understand how it was supposed to work previously..)
- OpenAL sound mode problems fixed ("I hope")
- Raw mouse/"name of mouse" mouse wheel support fixed (has always been broken)

[Anubis]

Just to report that uae-configuration works now. Great work Toni!

[Mad-Matt]

OpenAL Seems to be working fine now also

X-FI June08 Driver Vista64 Sp1

[dazzleman]

Hello. When attempting to use any of the 1.5.2 betas I get a "Crash detected" dialog and WinUAE does not load.

I hope I've attached the minidump and bootlog.txt (this is my first post)!!

From looking at the bootlog myself, it appears to be stalling around where it attempts to identify the sound device. I appear to have 2 sound devices, the first is my soundblaster card, the second is something to do with my USR fax modem. In fact when running WinUAE 1.5.1 (which appears to run without problem) the sound properties page lists them as:

Primary Sound Driver
SB Live Audio [A400]
Modem #0 Line Playback [emulated]

Hope I've provided enough info. My specs are as follows:

AMD XP3000, 1gig ram, Win XP SP1, Radeon 9800Pro, Soundblaster Live Value.

Cheerz, Dazzleman.

[Shoonay]

hello & welcome to EAB, dazzleman

how about upgrading to SP3 for starters?

[Toni Wilen]

Originally Posted by dazzleman

Hello. When attempting to use any of the 1.5.2 betas I get a "Crash detected" dialog and WinUAE does not load.

Seems to crash when winuae tries to open openal32.dll (when trying to enumerate openal devices)

Does attached openal enumeration sample crash too?