CompactFlash cards that work on Buddha

MagerValp · 07 August 2008, 23:19

There are a few threads here discussing problems with using (or at least booting from) Compact Flash cards with a CF to IDE adapter with Buddha controller cards. Since some of you have managed to get it to work, could you please post the make and model of your working and non-working cards so that we can compile a list? I can start with my SanDisk Ultra Extreme IV 2 GB that doesn't work...

davideo · 07 August 2008, 23:27

@MagerValp

Which Buddha are you using?

I'm hoping to use a similair setup with my original Buddha to give me a removable card to allow me to copy stuff from PC to my 4000D

Dave G

MagerValp · 08 August 2008, 14:04

I'm using a Buddha Flash, hopefully using the latest firmware (though I have no way of checking that right now).

MagerValp · 10 August 2008, 19:58

So... no one is using CF cards on their Buddhas?

tonyyeb · 10 August 2008, 20:06

I've just ordered a SanDisk 2GB from ebay on the recommendation of alexh for use with my buddha.

alexh · 10 August 2008, 21:16

I have to be honest and say I've only ever used the internal IDE interface, never a buddha. SanDisk are usually the best, most compliant. The latest Kingston CF cards have been known to have trouble with onboard IDE.

You can try to use the atcfwchg.com and/or ndcfwchg.com (programs from Sandisk for x86 PC) to change the CF card from REMOVABLE to FIXED which can help compatibility.

1. Mount the CF as a primary master IDE.
2. Boot from a floppy with the tool on the floppy.
3. Make sure the BIOS see the CF.
4. Issue atcfwchg /p /f

MagerValp · 13 August 2008, 08:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

You can try to use the atcfwchg.com and/or ndcfwchg.com (programs from Sandisk for x86 PC) to change the CF card from REMOVABLE to FIXED which can help compatibility.

1. Mount the CF as a primary master IDE.
2. Boot from a floppy with the tool on the floppy.
3. Make sure the BIOS see the CF.
4. Issue atcfwchg /p /f

Wow, that is exactly what I needed. Thanks!

alexh · 13 August 2008, 09:52

Let us know if it works.

Chain · 13 August 2008, 10:30

it will not

MagerValp · 13 August 2008, 10:31

atcfwchg /p /f worked, I'll let you know what the Buddha thinks of it tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

it will not

Huh?

tonyyeb · 13 August 2008, 10:48

I'm still awaiting all my CF kit to arrive but i'll post here when i've had time to fit it all.

tonyyeb · 13 August 2008, 20:26

Typical... out of four packages i'm waiting for I got a CF-IDE for my A3000, a CF reader for my PC and............ the Kickstart 3.1 ROMs! No CF card! Lol!

MagerValp · 13 August 2008, 21:55

The flash rom on my Buddha card has become corrupt, so now I can't test. Bah.

tonyyeb · 13 August 2008, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagerValp

The flash rom on my Buddha card has become corrupt, so now I can't test. Bah.

Blimey! How do you go about fixing that?

davideo · 13 August 2008, 22:39

Surely that's just a case of reflashing the Rom with the latest version

Dave G

MagerValp · 14 August 2008, 16:13

Yeah, re-flash with the Buddha software, or stick it in an EPROM burner. Unfortunately I only have the Buddha software on IDE drives (mmm 22), and no way of transferring disks, but I think my old EPROM burner can program 28C256 chips.

The bigger question is of course why it became corrupted in the first place. Jens suggested that it's ripple on the +5 V and recommends replacing all the electrolytic caps in the PSU...

So many things to do, so little time.

tonyyeb · 14 August 2008, 16:16

/Keeps Buddha Floppy Disk in Safe Place

tonyyeb · 14 August 2008, 17:42

Got my SanDisk UltraII 2gb CF card today. PC sees it fine but Amiga/Buddha will not. Low Level Formatted (on the PC) and WinUAE allowed me to add it as a drive but wont show up in HDToolBox.

The CF-IDE adapter on the Amiga blinks when doing the detect in HDToolBox but only shows my SCSI hard drive. Tried changing from master to slave but still no joy.

What am I doing wrong?

MagerValp · 14 August 2008, 21:43

Did you use atcfwchg (in DOS on a PC) to change the firmware ID to fixed disk? Did you change the HDToolBox icon to use buddha_atapi.device?

tonyyeb · 14 August 2008, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagerValp

Did you use atcfwchg (in DOS on a PC) to change the firmware ID to fixed disk?

Not tried that. How do you do it? I've downloaded it. I guess this needs to run under DOS and not under XP?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagerValp

Did you change the HDToolBox icon to use buddha_atapi.device?

Do I have to do that? Every other device (including the DVD ROM) shows up without any changes.

alexh · 14 August 2008, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyyeb

Not tried that. How do you do it?

Erm???

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

1. Mount the CF as a primary master IDE. (Connect to primary IDE of your PC using CF->IDE adapter set to master)
2. Boot from a floppy with the tool on the floppy.
3. Make sure the BIOS see the CF.
4. Issue atcfwchg /p /f

tonyyeb · 14 August 2008, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Erm???

Yes thanks Alex. In my eagerness to try it I had skipped over the bit about booting from a DOS floppy. Something I can't do at home as I don't have a floppy drive in my PC!

alexh · 14 August 2008, 22:54

It doesn't have to be a floppy drive, it could be a USB stick if your PC supports booting from USB stick, just something other than IDE/SATA

tonyyeb · 14 August 2008, 23:38

My bloody PC is too smart for it's own good. Booted from USB into DOS. Ran the prog it tried to make the change on my SATA HD. Disconnected that. Tried again Error #20. Looked in the BIOS, my PATA IDE channel is IDE channel 4 (SATA being 0,1,2,3). Tried to disable SATA but the CF card would not budge. Only got one PATA IDE socket on my mobo so it will have to wait until tomorrow when I can give it a go on an older PC that has no SATA. This is proving a lot harder than I thought it would be!

alexh · 14 August 2008, 23:40

Where did you get your SanDisk card from?

I bought five this week from the same place and 2 of them are cheap Chinese fakes but 3 were authentic.

tonyyeb · 14 August 2008, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Where did you get your SanDisk card from?

I bought five this week from the same place and 2 of them are cheap Chinese fakes but 3 were authentic.

Some UK shop on ebay. How can you spot a fake? It says SanDisk in the BIOS on my PC.

alexh · 14 August 2008, 23:54

Mine were easy because I had a mixture of original and fake.

http://martybugs.net/articles/fakesandisk.cgi

The packaging (particularly the manual) which gave it away for me.... the fakes work ok on the PC but I'm going take them back!

tonyyeb · 15 August 2008, 12:58

Finally executed atcfwchg /p /f and got a 'PASS'. So hopefully it will work when I get home tonight.

tonyyeb · 15 August 2008, 17:27

Woop woop! It worked! Alex you are a star

alexh · 15 August 2008, 17:27

I thought that might be it... good to know for sure.

tonyyeb · 15 August 2008, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

I thought that might be it... good to know for sure.

Certainly is. After being back on the Amiga scene with some real Amiga hardware for only a couple of weeks, i've picked up quite a few little nuggets!

MagerValp · 15 August 2008, 20:11

After flashing my Buddha, everything works! My Amiga 2000 is booting from the SanDisk Extreme IV CF card, after having the firmware ID set to fixed with atcfwchg /p /f. Joy!

tonyyeb · 15 August 2008, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagerValp

After flashing my Buddha, everything works! My Amiga 2000 is booting from the SanDisk Extreme IV CF card, after having the firmware ID set to fixed with atcfwchg /p /f. Joy!

Great news. Glad it is working. Shame I ordered a SD-IDE adapter when I couldn't get the CF-IDE to work! Never mind, it will make a nice spare, plus I can try to see if it works with the Buddha for future reference.

davideo · 15 August 2008, 22:42

Isn't life funny at times

Last night I couldn't get my Buddha or Tandem card to see my backplate CF IDE adaptor.

Tried again earlier and still no joy. So I thought bugger it and disconnected my CD drive from the internal IDE and plugged in the adaptor.

Card was found, initialised, partitioned and formated. Dumped a load of stuff on it to check it was saving and loading ok. All ok without problems.

Now I've just reconnected it to my Tandem and it's there - all intact and working a treat.

Going to try the Buddha again later tonight if I get chance.

Dave G

tonyyeb · 16 August 2008, 14:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyyeb

Shame I ordered a SD-IDE adapter when I couldn't get the CF-IDE to work! Never mind, it will make a nice spare, plus I can try to see if it works with the Buddha for future reference.

Well it doesn't work it seems. I guess it is suffering from the Fixed Disk vs Removeable media that the CF card had. Anyone know how to change this on an SD Card (Viking branded)?

alexh · 16 August 2008, 14:57

There is no such thing. SD cards are not IDE. (CF cards are IDE devices, adapters are just wires).

You would need to change the setting within the IDE->SD adapter itself. If such a setting exists. What make is it?

tonyyeb · 16 August 2008, 15:34

No brand shown. Only things on are:

MM-IDE to SD-01HN02
S/N: 080321GS0723029
S/N: 18803496

On the chips are:

KTC
GP
FC1306T
FRY040205 -FU

SST
MPF
39SF010
90-4C-NH
0052152-D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=320283051265

alexh · 16 August 2008, 16:02

Nothing... I am afraid you'll have to use it with the PC.

tonyyeb · 16 August 2008, 16:28

Ill stick to CF then. Cheers.

davideo · 17 August 2008, 17:19

I've just finished trying again with my Buddha Flash and backplate CF IDE converter.

Still no joy.

So I'm going to stick with my Tandem. It works a treat and as I don't need to boot up with the CF card - that will do me.

So I've now got a spare Buddha Flash

Dave G

07 August 2008, 23:19	#1
MagerValp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Göteborg / Sweden Posts: 147	CompactFlash cards that work on Buddha There are a few threads here discussing problems with using (or at least booting from) Compact Flash cards with a CF to IDE adapter with Buddha controller cards. Since some of you have managed to get it to work, could you please post the make and model of your working and non-working cards so that we can compile a list? I can start with my SanDisk Ultra Extreme IV 2 GB that doesn't work...

10 August 2008, 21:16	#6
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	I have to be honest and say I've only ever used the internal IDE interface, never a buddha. SanDisk are usually the best, most compliant. The latest Kingston CF cards have been known to have trouble with onboard IDE. You can try to use the atcfwchg.com and/or ndcfwchg.com (programs from Sandisk for x86 PC) to change the CF card from REMOVABLE to FIXED which can help compatibility. 1. Mount the CF as a primary master IDE. 2. Boot from a floppy with the tool on the floppy. 3. Make sure the BIOS see the CF. 4. Issue atcfwchg /p /f __________________ Thalion Webshrine Last edited by alexh; 10 August 2008 at 21:35.

13 August 2008, 09:52	#8
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	Let us know if it works. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

14 August 2008, 22:54	#23
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	It doesn't have to be a floppy drive, it could be a USB stick if your PC supports booting from USB stick, just something other than IDE/SATA __________________ Thalion Webshrine

14 August 2008, 23:40	#25
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	Where did you get your SanDisk card from? I bought five this week from the same place and 2 of them are cheap Chinese fakes but 3 were authentic. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

07 August 2008, 23:27	#2
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,028	@MagerValp Which Buddha are you using? I'm hoping to use a similair setup with my original Buddha to give me a removable card to allow me to copy stuff from PC to my 4000D Dave G

08 August 2008, 14:04	#3
MagerValp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Göteborg / Sweden Posts: 147	I'm using a Buddha Flash, hopefully using the latest firmware (though I have no way of checking that right now).

10 August 2008, 19:58	#4
MagerValp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Göteborg / Sweden Posts: 147	So... no one is using CF cards on their Buddhas?

10 August 2008, 20:06	#5
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	I've just ordered a SanDisk 2GB from ebay on the recommendation of alexh for use with my buddha.

13 August 2008, 10:30	#9
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	it will not

13 August 2008, 10:48	#11
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	I'm still awaiting all my CF kit to arrive but i'll post here when i've had time to fit it all.

13 August 2008, 20:26	#12
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	Typical... out of four packages i'm waiting for I got a CF-IDE for my A3000, a CF reader for my PC and............ the Kickstart 3.1 ROMs! No CF card! Lol!

13 August 2008, 21:55	#13
MagerValp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Göteborg / Sweden Posts: 147	The flash rom on my Buddha card has become corrupt, so now I can't test. Bah.

13 August 2008, 22:39	#15
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,028	Surely that's just a case of reflashing the Rom with the latest version Dave G

14 August 2008, 16:13	#16
MagerValp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Göteborg / Sweden Posts: 147	Yeah, re-flash with the Buddha software, or stick it in an EPROM burner. Unfortunately I only have the Buddha software on IDE drives (mmm 22), and no way of transferring disks, but I think my old EPROM burner can program 28C256 chips. The bigger question is of course why it became corrupted in the first place. Jens suggested that it's ripple on the +5 V and recommends replacing all the electrolytic caps in the PSU... So many things to do, so little time.

14 August 2008, 16:16	#17
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	/Keeps Buddha Floppy Disk in Safe Place

14 August 2008, 17:42	#18
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	Got my SanDisk UltraII 2gb CF card today. PC sees it fine but Amiga/Buddha will not. Low Level Formatted (on the PC) and WinUAE allowed me to add it as a drive but wont show up in HDToolBox. The CF-IDE adapter on the Amiga blinks when doing the detect in HDToolBox but only shows my SCSI hard drive. Tried changing from master to slave but still no joy. What am I doing wrong?

14 August 2008, 21:43	#19
MagerValp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Göteborg / Sweden Posts: 147	Did you use atcfwchg (in DOS on a PC) to change the firmware ID to fixed disk? Did you change the HDToolBox icon to use buddha_atapi.device?

14 August 2008, 23:38	#24
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	My bloody PC is too smart for it's own good. Booted from USB into DOS. Ran the prog it tried to make the change on my SATA HD. Disconnected that. Tried again Error #20. Looked in the BIOS, my PATA IDE channel is IDE channel 4 (SATA being 0,1,2,3). Tried to disable SATA but the CF card would not budge. Only got one PATA IDE socket on my mobo so it will have to wait until tomorrow when I can give it a go on an older PC that has no SATA. This is proving a lot harder than I thought it would be!

14 August 2008, 23:54	#27
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	Mine were easy because I had a mixture of original and fake. http://martybugs.net/articles/fakesandisk.cgi The packaging (particularly the manual) which gave it away for me.... the fakes work ok on the PC but I'm going take them back! __________________ Thalion Webshrine

15 August 2008, 12:58	#28
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	Finally executed atcfwchg /p /f and got a 'PASS'. So hopefully it will work when I get home tonight.

15 August 2008, 17:27	#29
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	Woop woop! It worked! Alex you are a star

15 August 2008, 20:11	#32
MagerValp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Göteborg / Sweden Posts: 147	After flashing my Buddha, everything works! My Amiga 2000 is booting from the SanDisk Extreme IV CF card, after having the firmware ID set to fixed with atcfwchg /p /f. Joy!

15 August 2008, 22:42	#34
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,028	Isn't life funny at times Last night I couldn't get my Buddha or Tandem card to see my backplate CF IDE adaptor. Tried again earlier and still no joy. So I thought bugger it and disconnected my CD drive from the internal IDE and plugged in the adaptor. Card was found, initialised, partitioned and formated. Dumped a load of stuff on it to check it was saving and loading ok. All ok without problems. Now I've just reconnected it to my Tandem and it's there - all intact and working a treat. Going to try the Buddha again later tonight if I get chance. Dave G

16 August 2008, 14:57	#36
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	There is no such thing. SD cards are not IDE. (CF cards are IDE devices, adapters are just wires). You would need to change the setting within the IDE->SD adapter itself. If such a setting exists. What make is it? __________________ Thalion Webshrine

16 August 2008, 15:34	#37
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	No brand shown. Only things on are: MM-IDE to SD-01HN02 S/N: 080321GS0723029 S/N: 18803496 On the chips are: KTC GP FC1306T FRY040205 -FU SST MPF 39SF010 90-4C-NH 0052152-D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=320283051265

16 August 2008, 16:02	#38
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	Nothing... I am afraid you'll have to use it with the PC. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

16 August 2008, 16:28	#39
tonyyeb Has the Amiga bug again Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hull, UK Age: 32 Posts: 790	Ill stick to CF then. Cheers.

17 August 2008, 17:19	#40
davideo Amiga Tomcat Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Lincs Posts: 1,028	I've just finished trying again with my Buddha Flash and backplate CF IDE converter. Still no joy. So I'm going to stick with my Tandem. It works a treat and as I don't need to boot up with the CF card - that will do me. So I've now got a spare Buddha Flash Dave G

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