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Old 11 June 2008, 16:03   #21
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I will just like to clarify that these cases were not just piracy of the software for somebody's personal use. It was a case of the software being copied and resold a number of times on an auction site. Possibly even distributed with a copy of the instructions we supply.
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Old 11 June 2008, 16:03   #22
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EasyADF PCMCIA Compact Flash Transfer Kitproduct code: ADAPCMCFL


It's only 17.64 EUR hardware and software it's very stupid who pirates it!


€17.64
Exactly. It's a good product and I'd certainly buy it if I ever was to acquire a PCMCIA-equipped Amiga.
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Old 11 June 2008, 16:42   #23
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How on earth do you know it's a good product then?? Sheesh!
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Old 11 June 2008, 17:00   #24
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"No. ADFBlitzer is just as easy to use."
"But this (Ed:IMHO) is not a "nice" product"
"Its only redeeming feature was that it came on an Amiga disk."
How do you know that if you haven't actually used EasyADF? Our customers have given us feedback on EasyADF from their user experiences.

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Old 11 June 2008, 17:18   #25
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a friendly reminder at everybody

the point here is not if a product is good or worse than other products around, but that a product from a party which deals mostly with amiga users, and so, with many eab members, is being pirated and the party has given notice of that.

eab as a policy does not condone piracy.

that there are other solutions alternative to such product, while true, is irrilevant here.

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Old 11 June 2008, 17:31   #26
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Exactly Marco.

Basically, if someone is still actively developing and supporting Amiga software and you want it, BUY it and support the people behind it. We should be encouraging people who still decide to develop software for the Amiga, not putting them off. If/when my game gets finished and (just for the sake of argument) I decide to get it published (say), I would be very annoyed if there were people who just pirated it instead of spending a few quid on it.
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For a new user, having an off the shelf solution to PC <-> amiga transfer must be a god send.

I remember (so many many years ago ) fretting how to do it myself
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How on earth do you know it's a good product then?? Sheesh!
It looks good? Most people who use it seem to like it? There are many ways to tell if something is good or not even if you can't actually use it.
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How do you know that if you haven't actually used EasyADF?
Because it's base function is incredibly simple. You boot from the floppy disk, open the applicaion, click write, select the ADF file you want to write from the CF card using a requester and then click OK. Or click read, select the directory on the CF card you want to save, type in a file name and click OK.

It doesn't get any easier than that. I don't have to try all the possible makes of light-switches to know they are all pretty much equally easy to use.

Getting the applications onto an Amiga bootable floppy disk is the hardest part and you do that for them. That is what they really pay for. But do they know that is what they are paying for? I don't think so. I believe they think they are buying a special Amiga adapter and custom software available only from yourselves.

But if they did know, would they care?? Probably not.

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Our customers have given us feedback on EasyADF from their user experiences.
They are not comparisons, they are just positive experiences. And they are going to get positive experiences due to the hard work of the coders who created CFD and FAT95. Had your customers known the PCMCIA->CF adapters cost under £2 each and the GUTS of what is on the disk is freeware would they still be as positive? Probably. The product, and its price is more than acceptable to them.

It's just miserable gits like myself who think that this product is over priced

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Old 11 June 2008, 17:56   #31
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Considering the level of software development that is happening on the Amiga platform, closed or otherwise, is practically zero, we need to support whats out there.

The worst thing that could happen is development on EasyADF to halt because it becomes too costly due to piracy.

If you dont like EasyADF, tell AmigaKit what you want fixed! Help them make it better. Let them know that you wont buy it because it lacks the features you want.

This is all wandering off track. AmigaKit dont want their product pirated. We should try to respect that.
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Old 11 June 2008, 19:33   #32
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i have that from : (eBay Member: amigakit_dot_com) ,thing is original software i think..
1 question there,no answer
same here.
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Old 11 June 2008, 19:44   #33
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Yes it will be original software if you bought it from our Ebay sales (amigakit_dot_com)
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Old 11 June 2008, 20:58   #34
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My problem is that I cannot say no to piracy. I would be very surprised if the people in this thread saying no to piracy don't have any pirated material on their computers.

I would also be surprised if they did not pirate any games back in the Amiga's heyday.

Also I think 14GBP is a bit expensive. I got my CF adapter off Ebay for £2 quid buy it now (porbably bulk bought for about £1?). I am not sure whether the EasyADF software is really worth the 12GBP if 2 out of 3 main parts are freeware.

CF driver - Freeware £free
File system - Freeware £free
ADF copying - Amigakit product £12
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@Smiley: I've always had MUCH more of an ethical problem pirating the work of small operations like Amigakit than I have pirating the work of bigger software house like M$ or Adobe. People like me (and I suspect there are quite a lot of us out there) say no to piracy quite a bit -- but only vis a vis a those we feel deserve support and/or need our support.
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I find it funny that there are claims here about "rival" products.
What the hell are you on? I guess there should be a community working together to get it going, and it's even funnier that your "rival" products are FREE software.

I really don't like THAT attitude.
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no wonder the "true" amigans left the platform ages ago !!!
"True" Amigans never left the platform, i will admit that I didn`t use the Amiga much but I always had one and when WinUAE came along I started using the "virtual" Amiga all the time.

Viva La Amiga....scuze my French.............
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Old 11 June 2008, 21:54   #38
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I find it funny that there are claims here about "rival" products.
What the hell are you on? I guess there should be a community working together to get it going, and it's even funnier that your "rival" products are FREE software.

I really don't like THAT attitude.
Erm, there will always be rival products.

Photon Paint and Deluxe Paint. Whats wrong with saying one is better than another? What is wrong with criticism?

Also what is so funny about rival products being freeware? Ever heard of Adobe vs GIMP?

If someone thinks the free alternatives to EasyADF are better, whats wrong with voicing an opinion?
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If someone thinks the free alternatives to EasyADF are better, whats wrong with voicing an opinion?
Because this thread is not about what's better, it's about supporting one of the last Amiga dealers isn't it?

I've already got my Amigakit transfer kit with 1GB card and EasyADF for a price I was happy to pay.
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