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Old 09 June 2008, 16:51   #1
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Poseidon USB stack as Open Source

now thats got your attention,

I was reading (forum whoring) as i do most Monday's at home, and spotted this link on Amigans.net

Now this lead me further into this linkie on AROS I will be honest, that Chris, completely baffles me sometimes, one minute i cannot bare to think of sharing a room with, and the next a guy i wanna buy a pint for.... hmmm crazy... but thats the world of Amiga

Anyway I mention this for two reasons, an APL agreement of Open Source could see an Open Source Poseidon project on Classic as well as OS4 equipped Amiga's.... this can only be seen as a good thing...

Anyway.... in the imortal words of a wizard not far away...

"Discuss/"
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Old 09 June 2008, 21:05   #2
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I will believe it when I see it.

It has been his "lifes work" (well ok perhaps that is going overboard). It represents hundreds of hours of hard work over many years. I wouldnt "give away" my lifes work if it still had a market value (and Deneb has proved it does).

If it is portable enough... perhaps it has a commercial value on embedded systems.
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Old 09 June 2008, 23:02   #3
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Hmmm, mixed feelings:
Open source Poseidon: V. v. v. good!
But:
Who apart from Chris is left in the Amiga community who could continue development..?

Further thoughts:
I don't mind paying the chap for his hard work - and upgrades. But I'd say there's a deal to be struck here.
-Free open-source software comes with nothing - you get what you're given & if the developer(s) decide to give up or throw out their dummy out of the cot that's it, no argument. You rely on the community having enough developers for this not to happen.
-In contrast I'd say commercial software comes with an unwritten contract. You pay the developer for supplying the software in exchange for an on-going reasonable level of support.

Put it another way:
If the writer of my freebie moves on, ho-hum, never mind.
If the vendor of my important payed-for software decides to leave me high-and-dry without any notice that's another matter.

Well, Zetr0 did say discuss:
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@alexh

You never know, we convinced NewTek to release the source code to the Amiga Video Toaster Flyer and that represents a ton of work. It took us years to make it happen though.
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Not a great comparison. The NewTek software was inexplicably tied to a piece hardware with no commercial future. No one was ever going to produce any more VideoToaster hardware. The platform had been all but abandoned. The software had no commercial future and no monetary value.

It's not like they open sourced lightwave or anything? I thought not.

Poseidon on the other hand has a valid commercial future and a current monetary value.

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alexh, I think your right.
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Old 10 June 2008, 09:07   #7
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as a sidenote, the poseidon4 that comes with DENEB works FULLY on all E3B usb hardware, regardless the OEM license they once had...
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Now that is most intersting...
Thanks keropi


...um, available?

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$3000 does seem a bit cheap, but that is Mr. Hodges decision.
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It's $4000 and yes that's too cheap.

Dunno if there is a chance it could grow and that is the starting amount or something.
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Old 11 June 2008, 14:45   #11
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Put it another way:
If the writer of my freebie moves on, ho-hum, never mind.
If the vendor of my important payed-for software decides to leave me high-and-dry without any notice that's another matter.
But that's the thing, Chris has already made his position clear that he doesn't want to continue adding to Poseidon, he's offering to open source what he has now for a reasonable fee.

So let me put it another way, either:
Open source Poseidon and hope someone picks up its development.
Or:
Let the product stagnate.

What is your choice now?
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