Downloads offline for now...

killergorilla · 15 May 2008, 16:22

I have no idea why but it seems that all of the packs that I host on my website have been deleted.

Hopefully Zetr0 can shed some light on who deleted them but until I get a chance to upload them again, they will be offline for the near future.

Sorry folks!

Shoonay · 15 May 2008, 16:24

somebody's been playing with the power switch again while drunk?

mrbob2 · 15 May 2008, 20:14

I cant beleive it. Your site is an amazing gold mine of amiga stuff. I think i downloaded all the whdload packs a while ago, ironically just in case the site died.

Sorry for being dumb but how can someone delete your files? I dont know much about web hosting etc. I hope you can get it up and running soon.

Shoonay · 15 May 2008, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbob2

[...] how can someone delete your files?

Z did it. In self defence...

Hungry Horace · 15 May 2008, 21:54

what the deuce??!!?!

shocked! shocked and appalled! and shocked again! and slightly annoyed! then more shocked!

mfletcher · 15 May 2008, 21:55

Glad I downloaded the packs already.

But I really hope that your packs return; your site is an invaluable resource!

Anemos · 15 May 2008, 22:01

dreary,
we support the KG work!

alkis21 · 15 May 2008, 23:19

This is a sacrilege. If anyone did that on purpose, I hope that his computers get infested with unrecoverable viruses. Or viri. Or whatever the hell you say when there's more than one.

killergorilla · 16 May 2008, 10:55

The hosts deleted them. Zetr0 is in discussions with them (as it's his webspace).

I don't really want to say anymore just yet but I'll let you know when I know something more concrete.

Hungry Horace · 16 May 2008, 13:40

i'm sure pspuae server could accomodate you if needed KG.... best speak to FOL

frikilokooo · 16 May 2008, 13:48

@Killergorilla

I'm sorry KG.

Btw check the zone for new Goal WHDLoad with save feature!!!

Thank you very much to lolafg that has shared it!,not sure if it's the Stingray install,I'm waiting for the lolafg answer.

Bloodwych · 16 May 2008, 14:15

Oh great, here we go again!

SOUNDS LIKE (a bit early to tell for sure) someone with an axe to grind has reported the WHDload packs and asked for their immediate removal.

If this is so, WHY????? The Amiga has been dead for over 15 years as a commercial gaming product; can't us real fans just enjoy its history without stick in the muds going all high and mighty and pulling the whole scene down.

Honestly, it truly sickens me that we can't enjoy a dead platform without being hassled. Taxes were paid, money changed hands and the whole scene had its commercial hay-day in the past. But no, we have to continue to pay even today for wanting to relive our memories. Why don't we just lock everything up in a museum, paying for the privilege to once again see our beloved computers and consoles and be done with it? It seems it's the only way to make the do-gooders happy if we no longer have any backups without the original being in our possession.

People worked damn hard for free and for the love of past platforms to create the emulation scene, emulators, game packs, ripped roms etc. for retro gamers to enjoy an experience well worth preserving for our years and future generations. These are the golden years of computer and console history we're talking about here - and if everyone played it by the book, nothing would have been archived to the same extent.

What's the thanks they get? Dragged down with law and pointless legal issues that say their hard work is not to be used; yes, going by the almighty letter of the law that must never be questioned by common folk as to its vadility to certain situations.

Also companies and some dodgy people making use of others hard work to try and profit in this day and age doesn't help matters. Once a commercial interest is once again generated from retro gaming then the whole idea of a community helping one another for the love of it breaks down. Those who once ignored and probably used themselves items from retrogaming scene now try and eradicate it from the web due to the new market being forged. A market that only exists due to the free hard work of others.

Sad, really sad. I know for certain that 99% of people who actually created these games will be glad that they are preserved and still being enjoyed even today. It's that minority that are spoiling it for others, but since that minority have the letter of the law (not that I've seen any police interest or arrests/prosecutions from retro gaming) on their side they are unstoppable in their actions of pulling resources down.

Shame, real shame. I hope these people on a crusade to bring down retrogaming don't have a single game or emulator on their hard drive that isn't 100% legit. Because if they have, well, I wouldn't be very happy!

Rant over. I feel better now. Wouldn't it be funny if it wasn't anything to do with this at all? Oh well, what's said is said!

doraemonppc · 16 May 2008, 15:01

I hope that you can re-upload it to another place.
Thanks for your work

mfletcher · 16 May 2008, 15:05

It irks me to think that the hosters didnt even notify Zetr0 of this action before deleting the site. I hope that they at least kept a back up of the site before taking it offline.

Belgarath · 16 May 2008, 15:06

From what KG said, it seems the hosts deleted the files because they didn't appear to be linked to a website?? and they thought it was just being used for filestorage..

nice rant all the same though

Bloodwych · 16 May 2008, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belgarath

From what KG said, it seems the hosts deleted the files because they didn't appear to be linked to a website?? and they thought it was just being used for filestorage..

nice rant all the same though

LOL!

I knew that would happen. As I was typing I had this image of me stood in a room spouting out a speech on my high horse only to be met by silence....

...then this

followed by some brave sole telling me it wasn't anything to do with reportage...

...leaving me to sit back down, deflated, and like this

I'll copy and paste that rant for another time then. Bound to come in useful!

killergorilla · 16 May 2008, 15:31

It's a very good rant, and one that I agree with hole-heartedly and one that I could have used from time to time in the past

Zetr0 is very good at fighting my corner so here's hoping we can have it back up in no time.

If not, I'll have to find somewhere else to store them!

Kristian95 · 17 May 2008, 18:55

Dang, sorry to hear about this KG, keeping my fingers crossed that things'll get worked out soon

Bamiga2002 · 19 May 2008, 10:10

I have all the packs stashed on my HD also if one should ever need them. I also have the old DeCreator's packs still

Graham Humphrey · 19 May 2008, 10:17

I put all the game packs (up until December 2007) on CDs so if anyone ever wants them give me a shout too if you like.

killergorilla · 19 May 2008, 14:14

Well it looks as though kgwhd won't be returning on Zetr0's server

Zetr0 has been a superb help through all of this, first by giving me the space in the first place, then being a great support throughout the existence of the site, and now in trying to help get the site back up and running.

Many, many thanks Zetr0.

Thanks to everyone else for their support as well, I have a few leads to follow and hopefully kgwhd should be back up again very soon.

bippym · 19 May 2008, 14:23

How come?

killergorilla · 19 May 2008, 14:42

There is quite a lot of info Zetr0 has given me but the host's keep harking back to this one:

Quote:

1.4.5) Sites must not contain archive (e.g. zip or rar) files, or data back ups

bippym · 19 May 2008, 14:47

were they zip or rar?

Zetr0 · 19 May 2008, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Well it looks as though kgwhd won't be returning on Zetr0's server

Zetr0 has been a superb help through all of this, first by giving me the space in the first place, then being a great support throughout the existence of the site, and now in trying to help get the site back up and running.

Many, many thanks Zetr0.

Thanks to everyone else for their support as well, I have a few leads to follow and hopefully kgwhd should be back up again very soon.

My friend, for what it is worth it has been a Honour! and i consider myself humbled to host it on your behalf.

I just wish i could continue to do so my friend.... i really really do!

bippym · 19 May 2008, 15:21

Can they not be upped as lzx or similar? these are non common archives

Zetr0 · 19 May 2008, 16:47

all though that is possible my friend,

it would only be a matter of time before they removed it again. i shall PM you some of the crap from the hosting company.

killergorilla · 19 May 2008, 16:48

Cheers Zetr0

I was hoping you'd explain it

I'll PM you soon regarding the other matter.

19 May 2008, 20:32

Yeah, keep the KGWHD files alive !!!

kriz · 19 May 2008, 20:53

Yeah! Full support for this project!

Harrison · 20 May 2008, 18:46

The KGWHD Packs are now available for download from classicamiga.com
(Some of the packs are still uploading to the server and will become available later this evening).

I thought I would offer this as a way for everyone to still be able to obtain the packs until killergorilla can sort out alternative hosting for his official KGWHD site.

I hope this proves useful to some of you. Please note that you do need to be a registered member of classicamiga before you can access and download the packs, but this is to keep them out of the public eye.

You can access these downloads from the downloads section found here.

cybernoid · 20 May 2008, 22:38

Didnt know classicamiga.com - Nice page!

May Killergorilla's packs contribute to your site sucess.

Minuous · 21 May 2008, 00:54

What a ridiculous rule, sites may not contain anything compressed? No wonder there is so much bloat on the net. Would they rather have their bandwidth and storage space wasted by using uncompressed files?

killergorilla · 21 May 2008, 01:16

Yeah it's blatant crap to be honest but I don't have any choice but to move it!

pbareges · 21 May 2008, 01:21

a big thanks to kg, zetro and harrison to keep this MILESTONE up and kicking !!

YOU'RE THE BEST!!

TjLaZer · 21 May 2008, 05:39

Damn I hope the site gets up and running again. It was great.

Kristian95 · 21 May 2008, 06:05

TjLaZer: read the post in News

killergorilla · 21 May 2008, 11:19

Because I have the power to close threads in my own forum and I don't get to do it that often, I've decided to close this one!

Check this thread for more info:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=415948

15 May 2008, 16:22	#1
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Downloads offline for now... I have no idea why but it seems that all of the packs that I host on my website have been deleted. Hopefully Zetr0 can shed some light on who deleted them but until I get a chance to upload them again, they will be offline for the near future. Sorry folks! __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

15 May 2008, 16:24	#2
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Posts: 5,844	somebody's been playing with the power switch again while drunk? __________________ "I used to be an Amiga user, then I took an arrow in the knee."

15 May 2008, 21:55	#6
mfletcher Bawbag. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 343	Glad I downloaded the packs already. But I really hope that your packs return; your site is an invaluable resource! __________________ A4000/060 w OS 3.9

15 May 2008, 22:01	#7
Anemos 70X7 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ἑλλάς Posts: 1,012	dreary, we support the KG work! __________________

15 May 2008, 23:19	#8
alkis21 Zone Friend Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Age: 38 Posts: 1,116	This is a sacrilege. If anyone did that on purpose, I hope that his computers get infested with unrecoverable viruses. Or viri. Or whatever the hell you say when there's more than one. __________________ Do you like classic adventure games? Check out Diamonds in the Rough!

15 May 2008, 20:14	#3
mrbob2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sheffield Posts: 263	I cant beleive it. Your site is an amazing gold mine of amiga stuff. I think i downloaded all the whdload packs a while ago, ironically just in case the site died. Sorry for being dumb but how can someone delete your files? I dont know much about web hosting etc. I hope you can get it up and running soon.

16 May 2008, 10:55	#9
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	The hosts deleted them. Zetr0 is in discussions with them (as it's his webspace). I don't really want to say anymore just yet but I'll let you know when I know something more concrete. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

16 May 2008, 13:48	#11
frikilokooo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mallorca,Spain. Age: 33 Posts: 1,102	@Killergorilla I'm sorry KG. Btw check the zone for new Goal WHDLoad with save feature!!! Thank you very much to lolafg that has shared it!,not sure if it's the Stingray install,I'm waiting for the lolafg answer. __________________ A1200 Escom+Blizzard 1230 MK-IV+64mb fastram +CF 8GB->IDE+OS 3.1+ClassicWB Ful A1200 Commodore+Elsat 8mb+4GB HD2.5"+OS 3.0+ClassicWB Full A500+512k and A600

16 May 2008, 14:15	#12
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,699	Oh great, here we go again! SOUNDS LIKE (a bit early to tell for sure) someone with an axe to grind has reported the WHDload packs and asked for their immediate removal. If this is so, WHY????? The Amiga has been dead for over 15 years as a commercial gaming product; can't us real fans just enjoy its history without stick in the muds going all high and mighty and pulling the whole scene down. Honestly, it truly sickens me that we can't enjoy a dead platform without being hassled. Taxes were paid, money changed hands and the whole scene had its commercial hay-day in the past. But no, we have to continue to pay even today for wanting to relive our memories. Why don't we just lock everything up in a museum, paying for the privilege to once again see our beloved computers and consoles and be done with it? It seems it's the only way to make the do-gooders happy if we no longer have any backups without the original being in our possession. People worked damn hard for free and for the love of past platforms to create the emulation scene, emulators, game packs, ripped roms etc. for retro gamers to enjoy an experience well worth preserving for our years and future generations. These are the golden years of computer and console history we're talking about here - and if everyone played it by the book, nothing would have been archived to the same extent. What's the thanks they get? Dragged down with law and pointless legal issues that say their hard work is not to be used; yes, going by the almighty letter of the law that must never be questioned by common folk as to its vadility to certain situations. Also companies and some dodgy people making use of others hard work to try and profit in this day and age doesn't help matters. Once a commercial interest is once again generated from retro gaming then the whole idea of a community helping one another for the love of it breaks down. Those who once ignored and probably used themselves items from retrogaming scene now try and eradicate it from the web due to the new market being forged. A market that only exists due to the free hard work of others. Sad, really sad. I know for certain that 99% of people who actually created these games will be glad that they are preserved and still being enjoyed even today. It's that minority that are spoiling it for others, but since that minority have the letter of the law (not that I've seen any police interest or arrests/prosecutions from retro gaming) on their side they are unstoppable in their actions of pulling resources down. Shame, real shame. I hope these people on a crusade to bring down retrogaming don't have a single game or emulator on their hard drive that isn't 100% legit. Because if they have, well, I wouldn't be very happy! Rant over. I feel better now. Wouldn't it be funny if it wasn't anything to do with this at all? Oh well, what's said is said! __________________ Live Long and Procrastinate A500 Batman Pack Classic Workbench

16 May 2008, 15:01	#13
doraemonppc Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calella(Barcelona)/Spain Posts: 5	I hope that you can re-upload it to another place. Thanks for your work

16 May 2008, 15:05	#14
mfletcher Bawbag. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 343	It irks me to think that the hosters didnt even notify Zetr0 of this action before deleting the site. I hope that they at least kept a back up of the site before taking it offline. __________________ A4000/060 w OS 3.9

16 May 2008, 15:06	#15
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Here Posts: 2,135	From what KG said, it seems the hosts deleted the files because they didn't appear to be linked to a website?? and they thought it was just being used for filestorage.. nice rant all the same though

16 May 2008, 15:31	#17
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	It's a very good rant, and one that I agree with hole-heartedly and one that I could have used from time to time in the past Zetr0 is very good at fighting my corner so here's hoping we can have it back up in no time. If not, I'll have to find somewhere else to store them! __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

17 May 2008, 18:55	#18
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 38 Posts: 494	Dang, sorry to hear about this KG, keeping my fingers crossed that things'll get worked out soon __________________ Loving my A4000T :) Project: Build a GB A1000 :) (I know... been a while)

19 May 2008, 10:10	#19
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19 May 2008, 10:17	#20
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19 May 2008, 14:14	#21
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Well it looks as though kgwhd won't be returning on Zetr0's server Zetr0 has been a superb help through all of this, first by giving me the space in the first place, then being a great support throughout the existence of the site, and now in trying to help get the site back up and running. Many, many thanks Zetr0. Thanks to everyone else for their support as well, I have a few leads to follow and hopefully kgwhd should be back up again very soon. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

19 May 2008, 14:23	#22
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	How come?

19 May 2008, 14:47	#24
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	were they zip or rar?

19 May 2008, 15:21	#26
bippym Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 37 Posts: 8,140	Can they not be upped as lzx or similar? these are non common archives

19 May 2008, 16:47	#27
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	all though that is possible my friend, it would only be a matter of time before they removed it again. i shall PM you some of the crap from the hosting company. __________________ Luscious Linkie Time:- www.AmiBay.com Old Skooler

19 May 2008, 16:48	#28
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Cheers Zetr0 I was hoping you'd explain it I'll PM you soon regarding the other matter. __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

19 May 2008, 20:32	#29
Philyon Posts: n/a	Yeah, keep the KGWHD files alive !!!

19 May 2008, 20:53	#30
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 31 Posts: 2,201	Yeah! Full support for this project! __________________ Mac Mini 1,5ghz + powerbook 1,67 ghxz- MorphOS 3.1 -- It rulez !! _ Amiga 4000/060 - Whdload - RDesktop - WookieChat - All Supported. 1200/060/PPC/Indivision - AMIGA 4 EVER

20 May 2008, 18:46	#31
Harrison classicamiga.com Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Age: 39 Posts: 155	The KGWHD Packs are now available for download from classicamiga.com (Some of the packs are still uploading to the server and will become available later this evening). I thought I would offer this as a way for everyone to still be able to obtain the packs until killergorilla can sort out alternative hosting for his official KGWHD site. I hope this proves useful to some of you. Please note that you do need to be a registered member of classicamiga before you can access and download the packs, but this is to keep them out of the public eye. You can access these downloads from the downloads section found here. __________________ Admin of classicamiga.com

20 May 2008, 22:38	#32
cybernoid Bold as Love Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 133	Didnt know classicamiga.com - Nice page! May Killergorilla's packs contribute to your site sucess. __________________

21 May 2008, 00:54	#33
Minuous Coder/webmaster/gamer Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canberra/Australia Posts: 1,148	What a ridiculous rule, sites may not contain anything compressed? No wonder there is so much bloat on the net. Would they rather have their bandwidth and storage space wasted by using uncompressed files? __________________ Programmer, Amigan Software

21 May 2008, 01:16	#34
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Yeah it's blatant crap to be honest but I don't have any choice but to move it! __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

21 May 2008, 01:21	#35
pbareges Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: montreal / canada Age: 36 Posts: 718	a big thanks to kg, zetro and harrison to keep this MILESTONE up and kicking !! YOU'RE THE BEST!!

21 May 2008, 05:39	#36
TjLaZer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA USA Age: 41 Posts: 619	Damn I hope the site gets up and running again. It was great.

21 May 2008, 06:05	#37
Kristian95 A4000T owner :) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California, USA Age: 38 Posts: 494	TjLaZer: read the post in News __________________ Loving my A4000T :) Project: Build a GB A1000 :) (I know... been a while)

21 May 2008, 11:19	#38
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,889	Because I have the power to close threads in my own forum and I don't get to do it that often, I've decided to close this one! Check this thread for more info: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=415948 __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

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