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Old 07 April 2008, 00:06   #1
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VGA adapter to connect a VGA/Multiscan monitor to the Amiga RGB port

Hi all.

I've just bought http://www.vesalia.de/e_vgaadapter.htm (an Sub-D 23-pin -> Sub-D 15-pin High Density adaptor), but I get out of sync on both my PC monitors.

Do I need a scandoubler or flickerfixer to use my PC monitor, or are there some PC monitors which can be used with the adaptor I have bought?
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Hi all.

I've just bought http://www.vesalia.de/e_vgaadapter.htm (an Sub-D 23-pin -> Sub-D 15-pin High Density adaptor), but I get out of sync on both my PC monitors.

Do I need a scandoubler or flickerfixer to use my PC monitor, or are there some PC monitors which can be used with the adaptor I have bought?
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A normal VGA/Multiscan is not able to display PAL or NTSC screen modes. If you'd like to use PAL or NTSC modes with such a monitor, you have to use a so-called scandoubler or flickerfixer.
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/monitor.html

A new scan-doubler will be released soon...

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Hi all.

I've just bought http://www.vesalia.de/e_vgaadapter.htm (an Sub-D 23-pin -> Sub-D 15-pin High Density adaptor), but I get out of sync on both my PC monitors.

Do I need a scandoubler or flickerfixer to use my PC monitor, or are there some PC monitors which can be used with the adaptor I have bought?

you can use that adapter only with a few PC monitors...that monitors are multysnc and sync all amiga modes including PAL and NTSC
olds examples are the Microvitec 1438 or the Nec 14 3D

Microvitec still manufacture rare multysync monitors check here..you can purchase one
you don't need a scandoubler

http://www.microvitec.co.uk/
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Microvitec still manufacture rare multysync monitors check here..you can purchase one
you don't need a scandoubler

http://www.microvitec.co.uk/
As they are "industrial" you can see it in the pricing, probably 5x "street".
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And let's just clarify: even though all SVGA monitors are multisync by definition, the Amiga crowd uses multisync to denote monitors that can sync down to 15kHz horizontal.

This is thanks to history - back then most PC monitors could sync to only a couple of set frequencies, then we got some Iiyama models and NEC MultiSync 3Ds that went down really low and the name "multisync" caught on to mean something special for Amiga users.

In 2008, I find it best not to talk about multisyncs in the 15kHz sense at all, since most people do not understand it like this any more. Rather use more words and describe them as monitors that can sync down to 15kHz, this will leave less margin for misunderstanding.

And the definitions:
multisync = can sync to a wide range of refresh rates, check the manual for your monitor's range.
fixed sync = only accepts a certain horizontal / vertical refresh, most often used in Unix workstations. Often also sync-on-green.

Thank you NEC for your lasting legacy of misunderstanding by taking a common term and making it into a product name.
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