CF Card Install

zeke1312 · 29 February 2008, 05:14

I have a 3" ribbon cable and an adapter card for a compact flash card. I'm installing in place of a hard disk. What pin orientation do I use when plugging the flash card adapter into the flash card and the motherboard via the ribbon cable?

fc.studio · 29 February 2008, 08:34

Look at the ribbon cable: it has a red wire (pin1) and this must go to pin 1 of the ide interface in the motherboard and to pin 1 of the CF adapter.
About IDE interface, its pin 1 is located on the opposite side of the rear A1200/600 ports or the nearest to the PCMCIA port.
About CF adapter, my version has a white diagonal line in the corner to identify its pin 1.

jrom · 29 February 2008, 10:57

kinda off topic but... is there something similar for other cards then CF? I'm thinking of replacing my 2.5" 4GB HDD with something like this but bigger capacity (8 or 12GB). What are the experiences with these?

Jope · 29 February 2008, 11:28

CF->IDE is probably still the cheapest solution. There are 4xSD -> IDE adapters, those can take 4x 4GB SD cards, but the adapter is more expensive than CF->IDE.

Solid state storage is always expensive when buy more capacity, just stick a 16GB CF card in.

jrom · 29 February 2008, 12:47

And is there something similar for SCSI interfaces?

Jope · 29 February 2008, 13:26

No. You can use an ACard SCSI->IDE-bridge to make an IDE port in your SCSI chain, though.

zeke1312 · 29 February 2008, 14:56

Hi:

My CF adapter does not have any pins labeled so I'm unable to determine which way to install the cable to the adapter. Can you help?

alexh · 29 February 2008, 16:00

Try it one way... when it doesn't work try the other way.

Sheesh!

zeke1312 · 29 February 2008, 19:32

I am concerned about damaging the card or the motherboard interface but thanks for the constructive post.

alexh · 29 February 2008, 19:55

You can't damage anything by putting a 40-pin IDE cable the wrong way round. There are no power pins.

Have you never done it by mistake when building a PC using cheap cables with no tabs?

My post was very constructive given the info you provided.

How could anyone have replied any better when you didnt say which Amiga you were connecting it to (A600/A1200/A4000) or which make / model CF card adapter you were using or provide pictures etc.

OddbOd · 01 March 2008, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrom

And is there something similar for SCSI interfaces?

Reactive Data produce a CF->SCSI bridge

Chain · 02 March 2008, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeke1312

Hi:

My CF adapter does not have any pins labeled ...

can you make a picture of it?

zeke1312 · 02 March 2008, 02:54

Some pictures. Used in A1200.

Dropcheck · 02 March 2008, 03:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by OddbOd

Reactive Data produce a CF->SCSI bridge

Nice!! Do you know of anyone who has tried it in an Amiga?

Jope · 02 March 2008, 09:04

No reason why it wouldn't work with an Amiga.. I'm more interested in how outrageously expensive it is .. :-)

OddbOd · 02 March 2008, 09:19

No but there is no logical reason it wouldn't work, they are designed specifically to replace legacy SCSI devices like those of the Ami.

zeke1312: The triangle next to the jumper indicates pin 1 i.e. the cable in the picture is connected correctly.

Jope: I was thinking the same thing.

zeke1312 · 05 March 2008, 22:43

Thanks, that's what I thought(guessed) but wanted to make sure. I started in the electronics (radar) field many years ago, then mainframe (repair both). I remember, at least in those days many/most cables, etc were keyed, i.e., "idiot proofed" so nothing got zapped when plugging/unplugging. Sounds like things have changed.but......start "yankin' and pluggin'" and in Spanish, "El smoko".

29 February 2008, 05:14	#1
zeke1312 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nebraska/USA Posts: 30	CF Card Install I have a 3" ribbon cable and an adapter card for a compact flash card. I'm installing in place of a hard disk. What pin orientation do I use when plugging the flash card adapter into the flash card and the motherboard via the ribbon cable?

29 February 2008, 16:00	#8
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,514	Try it one way... when it doesn't work try the other way. Sheesh! __________________ Thalion Webshrine

29 February 2008, 19:55	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,514	You can't damage anything by putting a 40-pin IDE cable the wrong way round. There are no power pins. Have you never done it by mistake when building a PC using cheap cables with no tabs? My post was very constructive given the info you provided. How could anyone have replied any better when you didnt say which Amiga you were connecting it to (A600/A1200/A4000) or which make / model CF card adapter you were using or provide pictures etc. __________________ Thalion Webshrine Last edited by alexh; 29 February 2008 at 20:22.

02 March 2008, 02:54	#13
zeke1312 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nebraska/USA Posts: 30	Some pictures. Used in A1200. Attached Thumbnails

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29 February 2008, 08:34	#2
fc.studio Cat lover Join Date: May 2004 Location: Italy Age: 43 Posts: 799	Look at the ribbon cable: it has a red wire (pin1) and this must go to pin 1 of the ide interface in the motherboard and to pin 1 of the CF adapter. About IDE interface, its pin 1 is located on the opposite side of the rear A1200/600 ports or the nearest to the PCMCIA port. About CF adapter, my version has a white diagonal line in the corner to identify its pin 1.

29 February 2008, 10:57	#3
jrom Wannabe asm coder ;) Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Age: 36 Posts: 432	kinda off topic but... is there something similar for other cards then CF? I'm thinking of replacing my 2.5" 4GB HDD with something like this but bigger capacity (8 or 12GB). What are the experiences with these?

29 February 2008, 11:28	#4
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 32 Posts: 4,061	CF->IDE is probably still the cheapest solution. There are 4xSD -> IDE adapters, those can take 4x 4GB SD cards, but the adapter is more expensive than CF->IDE. Solid state storage is always expensive when buy more capacity, just stick a 16GB CF card in.

29 February 2008, 12:47	#5
jrom Wannabe asm coder ;) Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Age: 36 Posts: 432	And is there something similar for SCSI interfaces?

29 February 2008, 13:26	#6
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 32 Posts: 4,061	No. You can use an ACard SCSI->IDE-bridge to make an IDE port in your SCSI chain, though.

29 February 2008, 14:56	#7
zeke1312 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nebraska/USA Posts: 30	Hi: My CF adapter does not have any pins labeled so I'm unable to determine which way to install the cable to the adapter. Can you help?

29 February 2008, 19:32	#9
zeke1312 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nebraska/USA Posts: 30	I am concerned about damaging the card or the motherboard interface but thanks for the constructive post.

02 March 2008, 09:04	#15
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 32 Posts: 4,061	No reason why it wouldn't work with an Amiga.. I'm more interested in how outrageously expensive it is .. :-)

02 March 2008, 09:19	#16
OddbOd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Age: 36 Posts: 623	No but there is no logical reason it wouldn't work, they are designed specifically to replace legacy SCSI devices like those of the Ami. zeke1312: The triangle next to the jumper indicates pin 1 i.e. the cable in the picture is connected correctly. Jope: I was thinking the same thing.

05 March 2008, 22:43	#17
zeke1312 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nebraska/USA Posts: 30	Thanks, that's what I thought(guessed) but wanted to make sure. I started in the electronics (radar) field many years ago, then mainframe (repair both). I remember, at least in those days many/most cables, etc were keyed, i.e., "idiot proofed" so nothing got zapped when plugging/unplugging. Sounds like things have changed.but......start "yankin' and pluggin'" and in Spanish, "El smoko".

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