Archon I ADF image of original disk

mark_k · 13 February 2008, 16:42

Hi,

Can someone upload a disk image (ADF) of an original, unmodified Archon disk to The Zone?

There is copy-protection on track 0 side 1 of the original, so that track needs to be skipped if creating a plain ADF file.

I have an Archon original disk. However, at some point in its life my disk has been written to. (The previous owner must have opened its icon in Workbench 1.x, which caused a ".info" file to be written.)

On the disk (but partially overwritten) is an Amiga utility for reading/writing files in the "minidos" filesystem that the early EA games used. I have managed to recover all but the first sector of this program from my disk. The initial missing sector must have been overwritten by the .info file.

Alternatively, just block 869 should be enough for me to reconstruct the file (that corresponds to the 512 bytes at offset $6CA00 in the ADF file).

-- M

DamienD · 14 February 2008, 00:17

mark_k, of course it's ok to ask for ADF files but please don't ask for people to upload SPS images on EAB.

It's worth reading the "SPS (formerly CAPS) FAQ - DO'S & DONT'S" section so that you know where EAB stands regarding these type of files...

mark_k · 14 February 2008, 00:42

Okay, I've edited the post to reflect that.

-- M

DamienD · 14 February 2008, 00:52

Cheers

...and I've edited the thread title.

DrBong · 16 February 2008, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_k

Can someone upload a disk image (ADF) of an original, unmodified Archon disk to The Zone?

In the Zone. Hopefully the copy protection is still intact on your original disk. Happy reconstructing!

klx300r · 16 February 2008, 21:53

mark K- did you ever get this game to work on a A500 with kick 1.3?

Hewitson · 17 February 2008, 03:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

mark_k, of course it's ok to ask for ADF files but please don't ask for people to upload SPS images on EAB.

It's worth reading the "SPS (formerly CAPS) FAQ - DO'S & DONT'S" section so that you know where EAB stands regarding these type of files...

Uhh, why?

Wtf is the point of preserving these things if they can't be obtained by the people who need them?

Retro-Nerd · 17 February 2008, 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braddo

Uhh, why?

Wtf is the point of preserving these things if they can't be obtained by the people who need them?

You can find the most of them easily via p2p or on several websites.

DamienD · 17 February 2008, 03:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braddo

Uhh, why?

Wtf is the point of preserving these things if they can't be obtained by the people who need them?

Look, I don't make the rules here but my job is to make sure that they are followed and to keep all parties that contribute to the Amiga community happy

As Retro has mentioned, you can easily obtain them from the web, P2P clients or Torrent sites. Feel free to do so, that's your business, just don't post links here...

Your question is really one for the SPS team, if you want an explanation then e-mail them if you like.

Hanzi · 17 February 2008, 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by klx300r

mark K- did you ever get this game to work on a A500 with kick 1.3?

The original Archon game is Kick 1.2 only.
The WHDLoad version works well in A600/Kick 2.05

IFW · 17 February 2008, 07:03

Simple: this board is the only one where we have a community.
It's about helping, sharing information etc. We don't want any trouble for either us or yourselves that could jeopardize the project or the board.

There is nothing stopping you to use other channels if you are strictly interested in the images only.

IFW · 17 February 2008, 07:05

As for Archon: the Archon Collection versions of the games work properly with KS1.3.

Hacky · 17 February 2008, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFW

As for Archon: the Archon Collection versions of the games work properly with KS1.3.

But needs more than 512 KB...

IFW · 17 February 2008, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacky

But needs more than 512 KB...

Absolutely not.
Just tried it... works fine with 512KB chipram only and KS1.3

IFW · 17 February 2008, 15:19

I am talking about this btw, just in case you think of some different Archon Collection:
http://amr.abime.net/review_24575

Toni Wilen · 17 February 2008, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacky

But needs more than 512 KB...

Too many external drives enabled?

mark_k · 18 February 2008, 05:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanzi

The original Archon game is Kick 1.2 only.
The WHDLoad version works well in A600/Kick 2.05

My Archon disk (which is an original version) works on my Kickstart 1.3 ECS 1MB chip RAM A2000 if I run Degrader and set it to reset with no fast mem and in 60Hz mode. Maybe the 60Hz mode isn't necessary, but the game would play better that way.

Looking at the game code, it uses AllocAbs() to allocate memory at an absolute address. So Toni's comment about disabling/disconnecting extra floppy drives applies.

I managed to recover the MiniDos Utilities program! I'll upload it to the Zone tomorrow. On that subject... is there any better disk-recovery program than DiskSalv? DiskSalv wasn't able to recover that file, so I had to do it by hand. Is there any utility that can recover orphaned file fragments from OFS disks?
(That is, where the file header block no longer exists.)

-- M

Hacky · 18 February 2008, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFW

Absolutely not.
Just tried it... works fine with 512KB chipram only and KS1.3

I´m talking about the EA Archon Collection:

http://hol.abime.net/3942

Archon I will boot on A1000, Kick1.3 but your cannot play with 512Kb only

IFW · 18 February 2008, 16:10

The games are the same and they do run properly with an A500 KS1.3 512KB chipram only.

A1000 may or may not work, never tried.
Does it really have 512KB?

Also, just like Toni said, you may have an external drive attached.

IFW · 18 February 2008, 16:11

Or maybe something else requiring chipram buffers. Harddrive?

Hacky · 19 February 2008, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by IFW

The games are the same and they do run properly with an A500 KS1.3 512KB chipram only.

A1000 may or may not work, never tried.
Does it really have 512KB?

Also, just like Toni said, you may have an external drive attached.

I think there was only one drive connected but maybe not.
After switching on my Golem 2MB RAM box the game worked.

Toni Wilen · 19 February 2008, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacky

I think there was only one drive connected but maybe not.
After switching on my Golem 2MB RAM box the game worked.

"Too many" can be 1 external drive. (with 512K only)

s2325 · 20 January 2012, 22:28

I found today screenshot of PD Archon remake for Amiga in Poweroids v1.2 (1995)(Bock, Matthias)[h Digital Harem].adf Filename is lightNdark.iff:

Could someone upload this game to the Zone?

lilalurl · 20 January 2012, 22:45

http://www.amigapd.com/interview-matthias-bock.html

Quote:

Were there any unfinished or unreleased Amiga games you were
involved with?
There are some unfinished games for the Amiga. Two of them are somehow related to the other games and might be of interest:

Light'n'Dark: This unfinished game should be a battlechess game, where you can select your creatures from different creaturesets. The project has been aborted, because several artists lost motivation before they have finished the graphics.

There's an old computer player only demo on aminet with the Archon- creatureset:

http://aminet.net/game/demo/lightndarkdemo.lha

s2325 · 20 January 2012, 23:17

Thank you, you can see gameplay here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDS1tO-CqYI

clauddio · 21 January 2012, 01:20

seems that lightndark never was completed or finished

13 February 2008, 16:42	#1
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 716	Archon I ADF image of original disk Hi, Can someone upload a disk image (ADF) of an original, unmodified Archon disk to The Zone? There is copy-protection on track 0 side 1 of the original, so that track needs to be skipped if creating a plain ADF file. I have an Archon original disk. However, at some point in its life my disk has been written to. (The previous owner must have opened its icon in Workbench 1.x, which caused a ".info" file to be written.) On the disk (but partially overwritten) is an Amiga utility for reading/writing files in the "minidos" filesystem that the early EA games used. I have managed to recover all but the first sector of this program from my disk. The initial missing sector must have been overwritten by the .info file. Alternatively, just block 869 should be enough for me to reconstruct the file (that corresponds to the 512 bytes at offset $6CA00 in the ADF file). -- M Last edited by mark_k; 14 February 2008 at 00:43.

14 February 2008, 00:42	#3
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 716	Okay, I've edited the post to reflect that. -- M Last edited by mark_k; 14 February 2008 at 00:50.

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14 February 2008, 00:17	#2
DamienD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney / London Age: 36 Posts: 5,059	mark_k, of course it's ok to ask for ADF files but please don't ask for people to upload SPS images on EAB. It's worth reading the "SPS (formerly CAPS) FAQ - DO'S & DONT'S" section so that you know where EAB stands regarding these type of files...

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DamienD Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney / London Age: 36 Posts: 5,059	Cheers ...and I've edited the thread title.

17 February 2008, 07:03	#11
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 41 Posts: 1,680	Simple: this board is the only one where we have a community. It's about helping, sharing information etc. We don't want any trouble for either us or yourselves that could jeopardize the project or the board. There is nothing stopping you to use other channels if you are strictly interested in the images only.

17 February 2008, 07:05	#12
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 41 Posts: 1,680	As for Archon: the Archon Collection versions of the games work properly with KS1.3.

17 February 2008, 15:19	#15
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 41 Posts: 1,680	I am talking about this btw, just in case you think of some different Archon Collection: http://amr.abime.net/review_24575

18 February 2008, 16:10	#19
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 41 Posts: 1,680	The games are the same and they do run properly with an A500 KS1.3 512KB chipram only. A1000 may or may not work, never tried. Does it really have 512KB? Also, just like Toni said, you may have an external drive attached.

18 February 2008, 16:11	#20
IFW Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ... Age: 41 Posts: 1,680	Or maybe something else requiring chipram buffers. Harddrive?

20 January 2012, 22:28	#23
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 32 Posts: 11,267	I found today screenshot of PD Archon remake for Amiga in Poweroids v1.2 (1995)(Bock, Matthias)[h Digital Harem].adf Filename is lightNdark.iff: Could someone upload this game to the Zone?

20 January 2012, 23:17	#25
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 32 Posts: 11,267	Thank you, you can see gameplay here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDS1tO-CqYI

21 January 2012, 01:20	#26
clauddio Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Saturn Age: 41 Posts: 279	seems that lightndark never was completed or finished

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