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Old 11 December 2007, 22:18   #1
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As Commodore 64 Turns 25, Founders Reminisce

Article about stuff and things to do with that.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2231499,00.asp
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Old 11 December 2007, 22:22   #2
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There is another article, with some words from Jack Tramiel.

http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-983...ml?tag=newsmap
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Old 11 December 2007, 22:29   #3
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oh! good old jack....seems pretty well...still bites!
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Old 11 December 2007, 23:37   #4
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ah the good old days are here again Nice to see Jack again...
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Old 12 December 2007, 01:27   #5
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Very cool but they should have been talking about more important stuff....


Amiga!


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Very cool but they should have been talking about more important stuff....


Amiga!


2010 would make sense.
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Old 12 December 2007, 02:31   #7
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"I talked to young people," Woz said, "and a lot of Commodore 64 users (told me they) would have gotten an Apple II if they could afford it."

Who the hell was he talking to? The kids I knew that had Apples had them bought for them because their parents wanted them to have what we used in school. They never actually wanted them. Us Commodore kids actually had fun with our computers.

From Tramiel: "We made machines for the masses, (Apple) made machines for the classes." Now that's the truth, brother!
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Old 12 December 2007, 07:33   #8
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Woz was talking to the C64 owners that were part of the local Apple club.

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Old 12 December 2007, 07:42   #9
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Damn, time is moving too quick! My glory C64 & Amiga days were so long ago!!. This makes you realise just HOW LONG ago it was.
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They actually got Tramiel to come out for this.. Mr. no I don't talk about my past. :-)

Thinking about it, I guess kicking him out was what killed the company.

He had his soul invested in the company he himself started. A bit like Jobs for Apple. He could have actually kept it afloat, there were so many killer products that he would have absolutely made a mint on.

So.. C= died around 1984 or whenever it was when Jack was outed.. It just took another decade for the company to finally make contact with the ground.
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Slashdot ran a story on this the other day - over 460 comments on that story already.
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Old 13 December 2007, 04:46   #12
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Often the founder is one of the few people in upper management who actually want the company to succeed rather than do a money grab, and may actually end up taking (temporary) losses to keep it afloat. Executives are also often not end-users, and no emotion, all cold hard cash.
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Old 13 December 2007, 15:12   #13
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Most of you probably know, but On the Edge: the Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore is a great read.

Have any of the people involved in the rise and fall of C= reacted to the company's history as the above-mentioned book describes it?
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Brief article of c64 virii on a virus blog site I read quite a bit: http://www.viruslist.com/en/weblog (go down to the article dated December 12, 2007 | 15:37 GMT )
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Old 17 December 2007, 04:29   #15
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Here's a YouTube clip from the 25th anniversary. Skip the first 14 minutes.


[ Show youtube player ]

Edit: Nice interview with Tramiel, Wozniak, Chowaniec and Lowe.

btw: William Lowe looks like Phil Collins.

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Great book LaundroMat!
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Old 17 December 2007, 05:04   #17
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I hope the Amiga's 25th gets this type of reception!
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Old 13 May 2012, 07:14   #18
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Hi everyone,
Don't see anything here in what am posting. Just found this sad news today..

Jack Tramiel founder of Commodore dies April 9 2012.

some links -

http://www.lemonamiga.com/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57...el-dies-at-83/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04...ommodore_dies/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Tramiel

Sad day

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