os3.9 Mediator Startup times.....

DDNI · 29 October 2007, 18:32

Ok I need your startup times to see if my system is abnormally slow. My Hardware specs are in my sig.

I use OS3.9, 3.1 roms. Warpup with Warp3D on a Picasso96 Voodoo3. I boot into 800x600 16bit.
My WB from Cold boots in 1min 48secs.

How does this compare to similar systems out there?

TIA

Pyromania · 30 October 2007, 00:01

I'll check mine this weekend for you.

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 10:26

good man pyro thx

keropi · 30 October 2007, 10:33

2 mins???? WAY too much! I remember my bppc/zorroIV-medZIV was booting in ~30sec...

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 10:54

hmmm I took a look at my 50pin terminator. i bought it as an ACTIVE one. However it does not say active anywhere on it.... Is this OK? or have I been sold a pup?

Would a passive terminator cause these issues?

keropi · 30 October 2007, 10:57

maybe you have not disabled the extra scsi devices in BPPC menu, and the system scans for them in each startup...?

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 11:12

My HDD is on ID2

I only have SCSI device 0 and 2 enabled with 1 LUN each.

I left 0 on as I think that the Terminator is there. Am I right?

keropi · 30 October 2007, 11:24

no, the term needs no ID ...

DDNI · 30 October 2007, 11:27

ok i will disable ID 0 aswell. thanks keropi.

adolescent · 31 October 2007, 06:29

Probably not comparable, but my A4000 with CSMK3, Mediator 4000Di, Voodoo, etc. (cold) boots in a minute (+/-5 seconds). Under two minutes isn't bad at all. If I didn't have a kickflash then I know mine would be another 20-30 seconds.

DDNI · 31 October 2007, 06:53

Ok, I disabled ID0. I also turned on Synchronous for the HDD. Boot time from cold is now 55secs +/- 2 seconds, I have shaved almost a minute from my boot time!

This is a great improvement! Thanks all!

I aint done yet either! Any other suggestions?

AMIGAZ · 31 October 2007, 07:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNI

Ok, I disabled ID0. I also turned on Synchronous for the HDD. Boot time from cold is now 55secs +/- 2 seconds, I have shaved almost a minute from my boot time!

This is a great improvement! Thanks all!

I aint done yet either! Any other suggestions?

Disable the IDE with for example an IDE-killer, that will probably save you another 30sec it will look for an IDE device since I believe you're using only SCSI?

keropi · 31 October 2007, 07:52

amigo, he uses a 4GB HD on the IDE channel, that cannot be the cause of delay... crossed my mind too, but then I noticed DDNI's sig

AMIGAZ · 31 October 2007, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

amigo, he uses a 4GB HD on the IDE channel, that cannot be the cause of delay... crossed my mind too, but then I noticed DDNI's sig

Ahh...me noticed it now too

DDNI · 30 November 2007, 22:27

Hi again!

Ok I got my system running and booting nice and fast...

Thanks all!!

BUT

I got one last problem. My system takes an absolute age to delete any files. Why is this? My SCSI chain "seems" ok BPPC ---- HDD------Active Term.

I create and read files at about 8.5mb/sec only have an issue with delete. I use latest version of sfs

EDIT

was thinking my SCSI cable has 5 connectors;

1. BPPC
2. Empty
3. HDD
4. Empty
5. Active term

Would it solve any issues if I did this?

1. BPPC
2. HDD
3. Active Term
4. Empty
5. Empty

or must Terminator always be on last connector

adolescent · 01 December 2007, 05:40

@DDNI

Really no difference*. Empty connectors don't have any effect. If you move the terminator up the chain you just won't be able to use the connectors after it.

* Of course, cable length, the speed of electrons, etc. But, no practical difference.

DDNI · 01 December 2007, 14:11

ta, moving the term up the chain will shorten it by at least half.... hmm will try n see

Bamiga2002 · 03 December 2007, 23:55

Thanks, i used the suggested settings in my ppc-bootmenu and the first boot is significantly faster than before.

DDNI · 04 December 2007, 01:34

Fixed my slow delete bu using setcache from sfs archive and adding 400 buffers to each partition...!

Many thanks to Framiga over on Amigaworld.net

28 December 2007, 19:22

havent the best setup yet but it boots in about 35-40 seconds from cold boot to wb

setup:

A4k CS MKI 060/50mhz 128mb
Picollo SD64 4mb
CGX4 1024x768x16
Kickflash os4 (no kickstart as this gets lost after a reboot

)
20GB hd on internal ide (SFS)

Mad-Matt · 28 December 2007, 20:13

my a1200 takes a min or so when using mediator. around 30 secs or less using bvision. boos sequence stalls when he voodoo driver initialises and the med pci lib is scanning for devices.

id like to use bvision and pci devices on the med, but there seems no way to make it work. the voodoo has to initalise with picasso96 and i cant access the bvision then . Does such a config work with OS4 at all ? Bvision for gfx, and net/tv/snd running on the med (voodoo just for the dma mem)

adonay · 31 December 2007, 21:17

Wow thoose systems sure are slow my setup uses 14 sec .. Is it becouse os 3.9 reboots 1 time during those boot times ?

29 October 2007, 18:32	#1
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	os3.9 Mediator Startup times..... Ok I need your startup times to see if my system is abnormally slow. My Hardware specs are in my sig. I use OS3.9, 3.1 roms. Warpup with Warp3D on a Picasso96 Voodoo3. I boot into 800x600 16bit. My WB from Cold boots in 1min 48secs. How does this compare to similar systems out there? TIA __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_ Last edited by DDNI; 31 October 2007 at 06:54.

30 October 2007, 00:01	#2
Pyromania Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,497	I'll check mine this weekend for you. __________________ I'm not an Amiga user, I just play one on TV.

30 October 2007, 10:26	#3
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	good man pyro thx __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

30 October 2007, 10:33	#4
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	2 mins???? WAY too much! I remember my bppc/zorroIV-medZIV was booting in ~30sec... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

30 October 2007, 10:54	#5
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	hmmm I took a look at my 50pin terminator. i bought it as an ACTIVE one. However it does not say active anywhere on it.... Is this OK? or have I been sold a pup? Would a passive terminator cause these issues? __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

30 October 2007, 10:57	#6
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	maybe you have not disabled the extra scsi devices in BPPC menu, and the system scans for them in each startup...? __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

30 October 2007, 11:12	#7
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	My HDD is on ID2 I only have SCSI device 0 and 2 enabled with 1 LUN each. I left 0 on as I think that the Terminator is there. Am I right? __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

30 October 2007, 11:24	#8
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	no, the term needs no ID ... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

30 October 2007, 11:27	#9
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	ok i will disable ID 0 aswell. thanks keropi. __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

31 October 2007, 06:29	#10
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 1,056	Probably not comparable, but my A4000 with CSMK3, Mediator 4000Di, Voodoo, etc. (cold) boots in a minute (+/-5 seconds). Under two minutes isn't bad at all. If I didn't have a kickflash then I know mine would be another 20-30 seconds.

31 October 2007, 06:53	#11
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	Ok, I disabled ID0. I also turned on Synchronous for the HDD. Boot time from cold is now 55secs +/- 2 seconds, I have shaved almost a minute from my boot time! This is a great improvement! Thanks all! I aint done yet either! Any other suggestions? __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

31 October 2007, 07:52	#13
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	amigo, he uses a 4GB HD on the IDE channel, that cannot be the cause of delay... crossed my mind too, but then I noticed DDNI's sig __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

30 November 2007, 22:27	#15
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	Hi again! Ok I got my system running and booting nice and fast... Thanks all!! BUT I got one last problem. My system takes an absolute age to delete any files. Why is this? My SCSI chain "seems" ok BPPC ---- HDD------Active Term. I create and read files at about 8.5mb/sec only have an issue with delete. I use latest version of sfs EDIT was thinking my SCSI cable has 5 connectors; 1. BPPC 2. Empty 3. HDD 4. Empty 5. Active term Would it solve any issues if I did this? 1. BPPC 2. HDD 3. Active Term 4. Empty 5. Empty or must Terminator always be on last connector __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_ Last edited by DDNI; 30 November 2007 at 22:47.

01 December 2007, 05:40	#16
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 1,056	@DDNI Really no difference. Empty connectors don't have any effect. If you move the terminator up the chain you just won't be able to use the connectors after it. Of course, cable length, the speed of electrons, etc. But, no practical difference.

01 December 2007, 14:11	#17
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	ta, moving the term up the chain will shorten it by at least half.... hmm will try n see __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

03 December 2007, 23:55	#18
Bamiga2002 Blizzard PPC club rocks! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 35 Posts: 2,687	Thanks, i used the suggested settings in my ppc-bootmenu and the first boot is significantly faster than before. __________________ A1200 BlizzardPPC 603e+ 366Mhz 060/64Mhz - D-Box tower Mediator TX \|Voodoo3\|10MB Ethernet\|Nec USB\| - OS3.9 (BoingBag powered) CD32 - original joypad & honeybee - join the Blizzard PPC club! \| PPC-Warp3D games speed boost! \| BlizzardPPC+Mediator+Voodoo setup guide (PDF - feedback appreciated...) join the Finnish Amiga Users group me @ amigamap.com Project Rutinski band website - rock music with punk attitude!

04 December 2007, 01:34	#19
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	Fixed my slow delete bu using setcache from sfs archive and adding 400 buffers to each partition...! Many thanks to Framiga over on Amigaworld.net __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

28 December 2007, 19:22	#20
craven1200 Posts: n/a	havent the best setup yet but it boots in about 35-40 seconds from cold boot to wb setup: A4k CS MKI 060/50mhz 128mb Picollo SD64 4mb CGX4 1024x768x16 Kickflash os4 (no kickstart as this gets lost after a reboot ) 20GB hd on internal ide (SFS)

28 December 2007, 20:13	#21
Mad-Matt WHAaaaaa!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 33 Posts: 1,377	my a1200 takes a min or so when using mediator. around 30 secs or less using bvision. boos sequence stalls when he voodoo driver initialises and the med pci lib is scanning for devices. id like to use bvision and pci devices on the med, but there seems no way to make it work. the voodoo has to initalise with picasso96 and i cant access the bvision then . Does such a config work with OS4 at all ? Bvision for gfx, and net/tv/snd running on the med (voodoo just for the dma mem) __________________ *Amiga A1200T - BPPC 040/25 603/175 96mb Ram - Bvision, CGX v4 RTG. OS3.9 + OS4 dual boot.*

31 December 2007, 21:17	#22
adonay active amiga 1200 user Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Either Haugesund /Norway or Vaxjø Sweden Posts: 184	Wow thoose systems sure are slow my setup uses 14 sec .. Is it becouse os 3.9 reboots 1 time during those boot times ?

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