Amiga 1200 Kickstart Upgrade - Problem

douglasamcintos · 29 September 2007, 12:16

Got some Kickstart3.1 chips from eBay. Am trying to install them in the A1200. Can not seem to remove the old chips. I *thought* they were easily removable but they seem to be glued in with superglue

Do I need special tools or is there something obvious I am missing ?

Motherboard Revision 10.4.

Thanks for any help.

Douglas

DDNI · 29 September 2007, 12:50

They are tough wee buggers!

I used a flat head screwdriver and levered them from alternate ends. It is a terrifying experience!

Be aware that the sockets are Bigger than the ROM chips (1 extra pair of holes) Be sure that the new ROMS go back in the exact same sockets as the Old ones.

Peter · 29 September 2007, 13:42

Some are very tight indeed... DDNI is dead right when he says lever them very gently from either end with something very flat - so as you can get under them... eventually they will give and come out... cross fingers.

Take your time - this can be a one way ticket job.

douglasamcintos · 29 September 2007, 13:46

Thanks for the quick reply

Any way to tell which goes top and which goes bottom? Or does it not matter ?

DrF · 29 September 2007, 14:59

Theres a small half circle at one end of the chip, that goes to where the white arrow is on the motherboard, BEHOLD my bad art work :

Next to the crystal furthest away from the expanstion slot, hope the pic gives you some idea.

DDNI · 29 September 2007, 15:18

Make sure you put the correct ROM in the correct socket! They arent interchangable!!!

douglasamcintos · 29 September 2007, 17:20

Well I got the old ones out. They are now sadly useless as a fair amount of brute force was required.

I need to make sure the chips go in the right sockets. They have numbers J9543 / 391774-01 on one and J9542 / 391773-01 on the other. Any ideas ?

Tried zooming in to your pic but sadly too blurred

amigakit.com · 29 September 2007, 18:28

391774-01 goes on the top in U6B
391773-01 goes on the bottom in U6A

Be careful - the Kickstart 3.1 ROMs are shorter than the kickstart 3.1 ROM sockets so they should be offset to the right of the socket.

douglasamcintos · 29 September 2007, 19:50

I found a picture on Amiga Hardware where I could just make out the numbers. Is now working very well thank you very much. Thanks to everyone

I was expecting to find a plethora of guides on the upgrade via Google, but there do not seem to be many with much detail beyond pop out the old pop in the new.

Douglas

amigarobbo · 29 September 2007, 21:08

BTW anyone want any 3.0 Roms, I've got a couple spare, couple of 1200 and 1 set of 4000s

29 September 2007, 12:16	#1
douglasamcintos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kirkcaldy, Scotland Posts: 15	Amiga 1200 Kickstart Upgrade - Problem Got some Kickstart3.1 chips from eBay. Am trying to install them in the A1200. Can not seem to remove the old chips. I thought they were easily removable but they seem to be glued in with superglue Do I need special tools or is there something obvious I am missing ? Motherboard Revision 10.4. Thanks for any help. Douglas

29 September 2007, 12:50	#2
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	They are tough wee buggers! I used a flat head screwdriver and levered them from alternate ends. It is a terrifying experience! Be aware that the sockets are Bigger than the ROM chips (1 extra pair of holes) Be sure that the new ROMS go back in the exact same sockets as the Old ones. __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

29 September 2007, 13:42	#3
Peter Unemployed & Lovin' it Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Garden of England Age: 44 Posts: 2,493	Some are very tight indeed... DDNI is dead right when he says lever them very gently from either end with something very flat - so as you can get under them... eventually they will give and come out... cross fingers. Take your time - this can be a one way ticket job. __________________ Help me find the Amiga game called "Scavenge"

29 September 2007, 15:18	#6
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	Make sure you put the correct ROM in the correct socket! They arent interchangable!!! __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

29 September 2007, 18:28	#8
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 1,352	391774-01 goes on the top in U6B 391773-01 goes on the bottom in U6A Be careful - the Kickstart 3.1 ROMs are shorter than the kickstart 3.1 ROM sockets so they should be offset to the right of the socket. __________________ amigakit.com - the Amiga store Links: www.amigakit.com \| New Products \| AMIGAONE X1000 Ordering

29 September 2007, 13:46	#4
douglasamcintos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kirkcaldy, Scotland Posts: 15	Thanks for the quick reply Any way to tell which goes top and which goes bottom? Or does it not matter ?

29 September 2007, 14:59	#5
DrF Blessed A1200 Of TeH Rat Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bham, UK Age: 31 Posts: 497	Theres a small half circle at one end of the chip, that goes to where the white arrow is on the motherboard, BEHOLD my bad art work : Next to the crystal furthest away from the expanstion slot, hope the pic gives you some idea.

29 September 2007, 17:20	#7
douglasamcintos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kirkcaldy, Scotland Posts: 15	Well I got the old ones out. They are now sadly useless as a fair amount of brute force was required. I need to make sure the chips go in the right sockets. They have numbers J9543 / 391774-01 on one and J9542 / 391773-01 on the other. Any ideas ? Tried zooming in to your pic but sadly too blurred

29 September 2007, 19:50	#9
douglasamcintos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kirkcaldy, Scotland Posts: 15	I found a picture on Amiga Hardware where I could just make out the numbers. Is now working very well thank you very much. Thanks to everyone I was expecting to find a plethora of guides on the upgrade via Google, but there do not seem to be many with much detail beyond pop out the old pop in the new. Douglas

29 September 2007, 21:08	#10
amigarobbo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 181	BTW anyone want any 3.0 Roms, I've got a couple spare, couple of 1200 and 1 set of 4000s

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