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Old 23 August 2007, 06:32   #141
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You are not a real Amigan. Real Amigans are LOADED!
I never claimed to be Amigan, I am in 2007 with the vastly superior Mac OSX.
I don't live in the past.
And I make a very good living (How else could i afford mac shit)
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Old 23 August 2007, 06:35   #142
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And I make a very good living (How else could i afford mac shit)
yes the whore business can give you a good earning
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Old 23 August 2007, 06:37   #143
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i think its funny that so many people think there is *one* right answer to this.... and the right answer is always their own. everyone who thinks differently is OBVIOUSLY wrong right?


also, saying that hardware breaks is a rubbish arguement...

Oh really?
Ok, so when I get a new laptop, easily and readily available, I have tons of choices and options.
See how easy and avilable it will be to replace your Amiga or Atari ST or Sega Saturn etc.
It will be much harder and more expensive to replace them in 5 years hence, as working parts and supplies dwindle.
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Old 23 August 2007, 08:32   #144
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I never claimed to be Amigan, I am in 2007 with the vastly superior Mac OSX.
I don't live in the past.
And I make a very good living (How else could i afford mac shit)
Well then Fred the Phuck, you must be loaded...with CUM all over ya .

When was the last time you considered yourself to be an Amigan? I still find the miggy hardware to be nice to nibble with, even if there's a few problems (like now ).
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Old 23 August 2007, 10:27   #145
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Good, good. Let the hatred flow through you all!




BUT EMULATION IS THE BEST!!!.. not only from my experience, but from the experience of 99% of the those that have tried them both... don't ask me how I know.. I just do xD... .

Way more benefits from using WinUAE than the real thing..... the real thing only gives 2 benefits... in some rare cases some slight better accuracy/compability.. and nostalgia.


IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE PPL!
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Old 23 August 2007, 10:30   #146
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BUT EMULATION IS THE BEST!!!.. not only from my experience, but from the experience of 99% of the those that have tried them both... don't ask me how I know.. I just do xD... .
How do you know?
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Old 23 August 2007, 17:07   #147
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... in some rare cases some slight better accuracy/compability
This cases are unfortunately not soooo rare.
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Old 23 August 2007, 17:11   #148
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Let us make love not war fellow Amiga chums.

Let us congregate and defeat the enemy that is ATARIIIIIII111111
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Old 23 August 2007, 17:17   #149
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Let us make love not war fellow Amiga chums.

Let us congregate and defeat the enemy that is ATARIIIIIII111111
Yes, let us destroy all 8/16 bit machines without hardware scrolling.
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Old 23 August 2007, 18:33   #150
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One more thing: any NEW Amiga hardware is STILL going to be relying on emulation to run the old classics... Just something to consider.
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Old 24 August 2007, 01:23   #151
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One more thing: any NEW Amiga hardware is STILL going to be relying on emulation to run the old classics... Just something to consider.
who needs "new" emulating hardware? you can just refurb your current amigas. use parts form other broken ones if you have to.

what do you think my a1200 is? a European PS3?


oh, and btw, to those that mentioned it; theres no "nostaliga" to running whdload games on an expanded a1200... not everyone -liked- all that bloody disk-swapping, we still want the best the machine is capable of. (which as we all know, is a lot)


I'd even use PS2 pads and a wireless keyboard on my a1200 if i could. as Fred loves to point out, that newer stuff is easier to replace, and thats the kind of stuff that gets thrashed. As long as the "heart" of the amiga is pure, you are still getting a better experience thanks to the accuracy, and a feel that emulation doesnt have (smoothness, lack of lag etc), but of course, some people i guess are just not that much of perfectionists, and are happy without. fair enough, just be willing to realise some people wont be happy with that.


i am a bit tired of this thread now though. like Paul_s i'd be happier talking about burning Ataris.
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Old 24 August 2007, 15:42   #152
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This question is just like asking which is better out of, I don't know, Apples or DVD-RW drives.

Two distinctly different sets of people with distinctly different goals. My aim is to play some classics, which I can do with WinUAE. However I can understand the feeling the playing on the original hardware gives you. Even though I emulate (and prefer it), I do occasionally hanker after the real thing.

Why? Just because.

That is the answer to why you prefer emulation or 'real hardware' too.
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Old 24 August 2007, 16:32   #153
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Sitting down at my a1200 with a mate, 2 zipsticks and playing speedball 2 via whdload is far better than on the PC. I've tried both believe me, and after quite a while of emulating the amiga, I knew I needed to get my hand on the real thing again.

From what I remember switching between all the various resolutions used on games made the graphics look quite a bit poorer in winuae.

That said, if I were using just workbench, winuae and something like amiga in a box, is far better than my current a1200 (030) setup (although to be honest I have been a little lazy on that front so far ).
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Old 26 January 2009, 14:26   #154
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Question WinUAE or real Amiga?

What do you prefer and why?

WinUAE:
+ easier and faster to use
+ it won't break
+ cost nothing

Amiga:
+ real retro feeling
- can be expensive
- need additional space on the desk

Your comments?

Thx
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Old 26 January 2009, 14:43   #155
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Amiga:
+ ultra smooth scrolling
+ awesome magical machine from childhood
+ joysticks from Amiga times
+ Commodore monitor (no visible pixels)

WinUAE:

+ no disk errors
+ A500+A1200 in one
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Old 26 January 2009, 14:57   #156
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WinUAE:

+ configurable controls (SPACE, ALT, ENTER, ESCAPE as gamepad-button, jump with gamepad-button instead of holding up on the dpad/stick)
+ hq2x - scaler
+ load times / savestates for immediate loading of the start of a game
+ ultra smooth scrolling when display set to 50Hz or 100Hz


Real Amiga:

+ design and feeling
+ noise of the disk drive (still better than the feature in WinUAE)
+ ultrasmooth scrolling
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Old 26 January 2009, 15:04   #157
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Real Amiga:

+ design and feeling
+ noise of the disk drive (still better than the feature in WinUAE)
+ ultrasmooth scrolling
Okay tastes are different, but I never seen the mechanical noises of the floppy drive as a 'feature' of the Amiga. Also the emulated drive noise is... well each to his own

I like to add
WinUAE:
+ Warp mode to skip long loading sequences or ingame scenes
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Old 26 January 2009, 15:25   #158
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WinUAE:

+ it won't break
...until your peecee breaks, that is

Amiga:

+ System can be killed for glitch free super smooth scrolling.
+ Just turn it on and go. No settings to fiddle around with.
+ Writing software to perform certain tasks quickly can be challenging and fun.
+ It's an Amiga
- Hardware is getting old, and even electronics don't last for ever
- Connecting an Amiga to modern monitors is simply a huge pain in the back side
- Standard A500/A600/A1200 keyboards are flimsy and wear out way too fast.
- Diskdrive noise caused by silly driver (thank goodness this can be fixed with software)


WinUae:

+ Very handy for prepping hds for your Amiga.
+ Very handy when you need an Amiga program, and don't have a network.
- WinUae can't kill the os, so no glitch free smooth scrolling (not WinUae's fault, of course).
- Demos are pointless, because they can't show off the hardware, everything is fast
- Cpu speed can't be set to authentic 680x0 speeds, except for 68000. This is bad when programming, and you want to know how fast your code is.
- It's not an Amiga

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@TCD: Well, it's hard to find anything a real Amiga has going for it. I just wanted to add at least one other point besides "reliving memories"...
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@TCD: Well, it's hard to find anything a real Amiga has going for it. I just wanted to add at least one other point besides "reliving memories"...
How about the feeling? Because this is a hobby, the feeling is one of the most important aspects. To me peecees feel boring, and Amigas don't
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