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Old 31 May 2007, 21:16   #1
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Softhut.

I see that the fact that Softhut still sells Amiga software is often used as a reason why some apps/games should not be shared. This may be a valid point, but I would like to know if the authors/developers of the software that Softhut sells get paid anything at all.

If they dont, does this mean that Softhut arent actually supporting Amiga software development but are simply profiteering?

Considerations please ....
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Old 31 May 2007, 21:23   #2
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And are they actually still manufacturing new copies of these programs as well? They could just as easily be unsold sock, I find it hard to believe that the companies involved are still producing new copies.
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Old 31 May 2007, 21:35   #3
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To be honest: I don't care about all those dealers, selling old amiga stuff. The amiga market is commercially dead since 10 years. Nobody cares about it, except a few "hobby" seller. I left out the AmigaOne or PPC stuff, but this has nothing to do with the good old amiga.
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Old 31 May 2007, 22:20   #4
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Softhut didnt get the software they sell for free- they originally had to pay the individual developers or publisher for the licensed copy of the software they are selling. They made this payment in the past (maybe years ago) and when they come to actually sell that licensed copy they make back the trade price plus their margin.

The developers/publishers are the first parties to get paid- the dealer is the last
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@ Amigakit, there we are then. If thats the case then they deserve to sell it at a fair price.
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Call me a bit of a cynic, OK.. the have to make the price on the software, but the price of some of the systems they sell are a bit, shall I say... EXPENSIVE!! Personally I'd beware of the A1200 systems as I have a feeling they are Escom boards... i.e. the dodgy floppy drive, all of the software that they give you is what I received with my original Escom system.
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Old 31 May 2007, 23:55   #7
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hmmm as much as I do have a lot of respect for AK (AmigaKit) and his argument. another way to look at this is this.

would you still feel it would be fair if sainsburys or tescos were allowed to sell out of date food stuffs?

everything has a life expectency, however there are some companies out there that either CLAIM a right to selll from a license that expired a long time ago, or one that can not be validated.

its food for thought, lets hope its still in date.
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Old 31 May 2007, 23:58   #8
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hmmm as much as I do have a lot of respect for AK (AmigaKit) and his argument. another way to look at this is this.

would you still feel it would be fair if sainsburys or tescos were allowed to sell out of date food stuffs?

everything has a life expectency, however there are some companies out there that either CLAIM a right to selll from a license that expired a long time ago, or one that can not be validated.

its food for thought.
Old Software is highly unlikely to give you Salmonella poisoning..
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true, but you could be buying something from an unlicensed dealer or that dealers license has expired.

theres no real way of knowing. you could arguably be paying for something that is infact public-domain or not supported in anyway.
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A) SoftHut have not updated their inventory for many years. Over half of what is listed on their site is sold out.

B) They sell pirated software.
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They're obviously a bit on the dodgy side...

If they are selling pirated software, I say stuff them, if you want to upload things that they're selling you should be allowed to do it. After all at least you won't be charging for it.
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All this "Amiga Classix" CD sucks big time. They included tons of cracked games, or plain game demos and Kickstart roms. I assume, they didn't ask Toni to include WinUAE for this shitty stuff.
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I certainly do resent being expected to pay $79 for Crossmac!

http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/...d=486901_70217
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Judging by what alexh said, I wouldn't even think of buying anything from them anyway. They'd have to pay me to take it I think.
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Old 01 June 2007, 02:06   #15
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SoftHut can go to hell - failed to respond to my queries and got NO business as a result.

AmigaKit by comparison is awesome - the very best customer service I've ever received from ANY Amiga dealer - ever.

And I've bought a shitload over the years from a lot of dealers.
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SoftHut took me on a number of transactions. They still owe me a credit [I will never see] on an IDE adapter, when they shipped me the one that cost half the price. Then they sent me boken Catweasel MK 3 and told me to talk to Jens.

Yes, they were reputable in the day, but unlike every other reputable dealer, they stuck around to profit from those of us who desire a time long past.

I've had almost a 1000 GBP worth of items sent to me from around the globe since I was raped by SoftHut and am thankful some players [AmigaKit and others] are still on the up and up.
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I have bought several things from SoftHut.
I never had any problems whatsoever.
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I am sure they are ok, but I told them in 1999 about the Pirate versions of Ambermoon they were selling. They bought them from Alive Mediasoft. Did they take them off their catelog... I think they have forgotton how to or something!
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Old 01 June 2007, 19:29   #19
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I'm a huge fan of SoftHut. It's obviously just one guy devoting 1 or 2% of his time to Amiga, but it's still useful.
Also remember back in the day, they were one of the few retailers in the US who stuck with Amiga, helping to carry the magazines (buying ads) before the widespread uptake if the WWW.
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Go to Retro-Nerd@: Its True "All this "Amiga Classix" CD sucks big time. They included tons of cracked games, or plain game demos and Kickstart roms. I assume, they didn't ask Toni to include WinUAE for this shitty stuff. "

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