Cover Disks

[Jimbo]

I have noticed a few Cover Disks from various magazines are missing. Are ADF'S of the missing Cover Disks wanted? If they are I'm guessing its all legal to upload these Disks? Or is that the reason some are missing.

Many Thanks

Jimbo

[Galaxy]

We're interested in adding adfs for any missing disks.

Most coverdisks that we've been able to source have been uploaded.

If there is no coverdisk download then it means either:
- we don't have a copy of the coverdisk
- the coverdisk is copy protected
- There is a naming problem with the Amiga Computing disks which hasn't been fixed yet so a lot of them are not yet displaying.

I don't think there is really any legal problem with coverdisks. The vast majority included game and app demos or PD. The grey area concerns disks that include full commercial versions - technically these are still copyright, although I doubt anyone is going to be too concerned about copying these disks now as that are all 15 years old on average.

[Jimbo]

Hi there

Thanks for the reply

I wont bother with the Amiga Computing ones then as there are naming problems with them. I do have some for the other magazines disks that are missing. Do I just stick them in the zone and post here? I have seen a few threads about an FTP to upload to but I have no idea what the details are.

Many Thanks

Jimbo

[Galaxy]

You can use the HOL ftp for uploading contributions to HOL or AMR. The access details are as follows:

Address: ftp.abime.net
User: hol
Password: incoming

Create a folder with your username and either post on the board or email us to let us know that you've uploaded something.

re. the Amiga Computings: the misnamed disks have now been corrected and uploaded.

Thanks for contacting us!

[bippym]

No point in making a new thread

Anyway I have sorted my coverdisks into "magazine" order, all I have left to do is sort them into proper order, and remove dupes etc..

Anyway I have the following

• 211 - Amiga Format
• 86 - CU Amiga
• 60 - Amiga Computing
• 47 - Amiga Power
• 33 - The One
• 28 - Amiga Action
• 24 - AUI
• 11 - Amiga Shopper
• 11 - Zero

Anything specific needed shout me

[Tweeky]

i have the the following Amiga Games disks as adf

Amiga Games 06-94
Amiga Games 09-94
Amiga Games 10-94
Amiga Games 11-94
Amiga Games 12-94
Amiga Games 01-95
Amiga Games 02-95
Amiga Games 03-95
Amiga Games 05-95
Amiga Games 06-95
Amiga Games 08-95
(i still own those mags if u need some cover scans)

also i have adfs of some Amiga Nightclub disks (does it count as Magazine? as far as i remember, it had only 2-4 sites(content what is on disk, impressum), it had mostly two pd/shareware games on each disk and a slideshow with sexy girl pics) and i need to make adfs of a few Amigo and Amiga plus disks which i have somewhere. i have the disks but i dunno what i did with the mags

tell me if u want something...

[spannernick]

I noticed you didn't have a pic of the Amiga Computing cover disk Nov89,I have it but i don't have a scanner only a webcam..

Heres the pic,if you need a better one i will try again..

[bippym]

why is that disk not write protected

[spannernick]

Its got read errors anyway,its a shame..

Is it possible to repair a disk with read errors on it..?

[Tom]

Hi, I noticed there are some unavailable Amiga Power cover disk scans. I have all but one of these disks (25, 26, 46, 47, 50, 51, but not 62) and can post scans of these if you would like.

[Codetapper]

Yes please, we are after anything missing from the site. Read the FAQ on the website to ensure your stuff is in the correct format for us!

[Zetr0]

@Codetapper

did the AMR team come up with a decision about the CD ISO's?

[Codetapper]

As long as they are uploaded directly to your site (I do not have the storage space nor bandwidth to transfer them) they can be linked online no problem...

I think it would be best if you organise those that have the images and that want to upload them - no use me being in that part of the loop!

[Zetr0]

okies, i will see what i can rustle up this weekend

of course i will be poking you for information upon how you want the iso to be index / catagorised and obviously where

[Codetapper]

As long as it is in the same directory as the other coverdisks the linking will work fine. Basically I just need the name of the ISO for each record and once that is in attached to the coverdisk record it will appear on the site.

[Zetr0]

@CT

okay, for testing, I have imaged / iso'd

Amiga Format - 42 - Cover CD @ 668MB

This is a little on the large size, so I used win rar, the size is now 278MB wich is a little easier to handle. Alas my scanner is broke so i cannot take pictures of the CD jewel case back-front and insert (if applicable)

I do have some questions / concerns though,

the last thing i want to dois place AMR or anyone in a situation of legality issues, so where does one stand in re-distibuting these CD's? i know most are only going to be PD based compilations, BUT there are a couple like the UFO disk from AF that also published the codes, this was licensed by AF for distribution.

I just dont want to get anyone in touble, and i really dont want Guildserver in trouble either as it houses a lot of Amiga community projects.

so any ideas CT?

[bippym]

It is surely not much different to uploading UFO to the zone!

[Zetr0]

indeed, i do see your point,

worse case scenario, if some entity has an issue it can be removed or de-linked untill resolved.

okay.. all thats left is to establish a naming format..

I have had some ideas... such that

AFCD#42_AUG#1999_CDIMAGE.iso
AFCD#42_AUG#1999_CI_FNT.jpg
AFCD#42_AUG#1999_CI_INS.jpg
AFCD#42_AUG#1999_CI_BAK.jpg

where CU_AMIGA would have a similar format of

mag cd name # issue number & month# issue year # file
CUACD # 33_APR # 1998 # blah... iso...

or would you prefer to have full names

AmigaFormatCD#133_Feb#2000#diskimage.iso

ideas ?!

[bippym]

AF42_AUG1999.ISO
AF42_AUG1999_FNT.jpg etc

is sufficient!

[Galaxy]

we'd probably prefer to keep the naming format consistent with the coverdisks (eg af001_1989_08_d001.adf for coverdisk no. 1) so we'd prob prefer something like

af107_1998_02_cd23.adf for afcd23

I'll have to discuss with codetapper...

[bippym]

err I don't think .adf is suitable for cd

[Zetr0]

Lol

[Codetapper]

Yeah I agree with Galaxy on this one! Best to include the issue number, year and month at the start so they sort correctly and match the others.

As for legality issues, I don't think it's much of a problem. We are only linking to the files, and the files can be taken offline almost instantly if required so upload away!

One thing you might want to think about actually, if someone clicks a link and it starts downloading the file, they might not be too impressed if it chews through 300Mb of their bandwidth. Should we have an intermediate screen on your site that says how big the file is etc? I could direct to that page for any coverdisks marked as CD's if you like?

[Zetr0]

I dont mind CT what ever is convienent for the AMR team really

I have asurances with streamline that I have no limmitations on bandwidth or space so, a simple size mention when they click the download through AMR would be fine with me.

Direct linking and get-right type programs would also be supported and the server allows http1 resumes etc.

so a little caution to the user that its going to be downloading xxx MB size, and recomend using a resuming downloader etc. that perfetly fine for me


just checking i get the naming convention correct.

<magazine suffix and number>_<year>_<month>_<disk number>_cd.rar
<magazine suffix and number>_<year>_<month>_<disk number>_front.jpg
<magazine suffix and number>_<year>_<month>_<disk number>_back.jpg
<magazine suffix and number>_<year>_<month>_<disk number>_insert.jpg
<magazine suffix and number>_<year>_<month>_<disk number>_checksum.txt

is that what the AMR team is after?

on a final note do you mind 'rar' compressed iso's or do you prefer another image format or compression ?

sorry to keep asking questions after questions, I just want to get it right and not cause any more work for you all...

[Codetapper]

I would just copy the filenames that already exist on your site (as some mags don't have issue numbers etc) - but with cd1.rar or whatever for the end bit.

RAR format is perfectly fine with me too!

Gimme a yell when you have one online and I'll do the linking...

[Galaxy]

I wonder, would it be worth including the jpgs within the main RAR?

rar is fine. Avoid zips as they are typically 50% larger for isos.

[Zetr0]

well thusfar, with Codetappers help.

I have uploaded Amiga Format CD 42 and CD 49, this i am sure will be linked soon.

I am yet to get a scanner so the cd case images will have to wait.

I have included a .txt of each cd, with the synopis that is on the jewelcase label and inserts.

heres the filename convention

af133_2000_02_cd49.rar
af133_2000_02_cd49.txt

the af133_2000_02_cd49.rar contains both the an "mdf" and "mds" file.

to review the text include, should you want more info. have a read here

The reason the file format has changed is that some disks are multi-structural (i.e. have mixed CD structure such like audio and data etc), these cannot be written as an ISO format, as such I have defined the use of the tool (in the .txt file) should that a non-ISO be made.

Unless the AMR team wants to adopt any specific multi-part rom format as a whole, I will just continue to create .mdf / .mds files (alcohol 120% base format) if there is another file type that the team prefers I would be happy write these in that file type if that is possible.

on another note... I have only a few Amiga CDs from magazines left in my collection, so if anyone wants to donate or lend me to image them for the AMR team i can always send them back after I am done.

[Galaxy]

Duke might be able to advise on the best format to use for this.

[[idoru]]

I would've thought it would be more sensible to use the already verified CD images from http://www.toseciso.org/ (ignore any possibility of me being biased :P) ? Certainly rather than creating Alcohol images, if you go down that route a bin/cue would be more universally useable.

There are currently 287 Amiga coverdisc images in the current database, 245 of which have been dumped by multiple people & verified, as well as 27 CD32 coverdisc images. All of these images have been spread (almost certainly they'll be on http://full.pleasuredome.org.uk/index.php torrent site as a start). Although, you can also create them from your own original discs (there's a guide linked on the main page of the site) to save on uploading.

If you do image any of your own discs, please let me know if you match the published checksums for anything in the database with a yellow dot (yellow means it's only been dumped once at the moment)

I would offer to help uploading but I don't collect this particular set, although I do have most of them as original discs if there's something you can't find/get someone to upload at a later date.

Amiga CD coverdiscs :- http://toseciso.org/list.php?sys=5&cat=2
Amiga CD32 coverdiscs :- http://toseciso.org/list.php?sys=1&cat=2

[Zetr0]

@[idoru]

I am all for saving time if the work has already done , is it possible that AMR can link to these iso's on tosec ?

I would also like some tool suggestions for imaging cd's as alcohol and nero are soe what limmited. (unfortunately my linux box is down, so it has to be windoze tools i am afriad )

if you have a pimer on how the tosec creates its image dumps i would be more than happy to read it. I am always looking out for ways to help.

I do so appreciate your offer of uploading, this would i am sure not only speed up the access for AMR uses but also releive some of the pressure of the uploaders (me lol).

if its okay with the AMR team i would be more than happy to add you to the ftp user list tonight

as another point it would be cool if there was a list to work from as well

[bippym]

Just get the iso's off Pleasuredome.. they're all there.. Though might be an idea for someone to help as they are huge.. I would up mine but they went in the HD crash of '07

[Zetr0]

@Bipstah

[Zetr0]

LOL, i got all exctied, and created an account at pleasure dome, infact i saw all the tosec dats and my heart began to swoon....

you just gotta be a bloddy bronze member before you can download more than 16GB

i have to admit i cannot find the AF cover cd's

[[idoru]]

I am all for saving time if the work has already done , is it possible that AMR can link to these iso's on tosec ?

The site is a database only - no actual ISO's are stored on it.

I would also like some tool suggestions for imaging cd's as alcohol and nero are soe what limmited. (unfortunately my linux box is down, so it has to be windoze tools i am afriad ) if you have a pimer on how the tosec creates its image dumps i would be more than happy to read it. I am always looking out for ways to help.

Dumping guide, as referenced in my earlier reply :- http://wiki.toseciso.org/

I do so appreciate your offer of uploading, this would i am sure not only speed up the access for AMR uses but also releive some of the pressure of the uploaders (me lol).

if its okay with the AMR team i would be more than happy to add you to the ftp user list tonight

My offer was slightly different to that :P

as another point it would be cool if there was a list to work from as well

Check the links in my earlier post, they link directly to the coverdiscs sections of the database.

i have to admit i cannot find the AF cover cd's

They're included in the "TOSEC (14-03-2007) Amiga CD32 & CDTV" set on Pleasuredome, but you can exclude everything else in the torrent if you only want the coverdiscs.

[Zetr0]

looks like a long LOOONNG night of downloading LOL....

and consequently.... uploading LOL

I do so appreciate your help

[killergorilla]

Are these on Underground Gamer too? (can't check right now) If they are I can download some of them and upload them to the server, I'll just set the uploads going and leave my computer on.

[Zetr0]

that would indeed be angelic of you KG

[[idoru]]

I don't think they're on UG atm.

[ElectroBlaster]

Originally Posted by Tweeky

i have the the following Amiga Games disks as adf

Amiga Games 06-94
Amiga Games 09-94
Amiga Games 10-94
Amiga Games 11-94
Amiga Games 12-94
Amiga Games 01-95
Amiga Games 02-95
Amiga Games 03-95
Amiga Games 05-95
Amiga Games 06-95
Amiga Games 08-95
(i still own those mags if u need some cover scans)

also i have adfs of some Amiga Nightclub disks (does it count as Magazine? as far as i remember, it had only 2-4 sites(content what is on disk, impressum), it had mostly two pd/shareware games on each disk and a slideshow with sexy girl pics) and i need to make adfs of a few Amigo and Amiga plus disks which i have somewhere. i have the disks but i dunno what i did with the mags

tell me if u want something...

Hi

Did you manage to adf the amigo disks?