What symptoms would a flat mobo battery cause on an A500+?

Merlin · 24 April 2007, 13:56

Hi

I have got hold of a basket case A500+ from Fleabay, if nothing else I thought it would be useful for the chips on board to upgrade another A500 I have, it came with no floppy drive. I have opened the case to examine it and it's obvious that the onboard battery has leaked as some of the tracks are corroded.

Plugging the unit in gives a green screen, I am aware this could mean duff RAM, could the dead battery also cause this symptom?

Merlin

keropi · 24 April 2007, 14:10

yes, if the tracks that have corrosion are related to onboard ram...
leakage can kill vital parts of an amiga

I have an example of an A4000D , that the battery leaked and after no fastram was recognised in any of the 4 SIMM slots...

Merlin · 24 April 2007, 16:21

I've looked closer at the board, the Gary socket is badly corroded and will need to be replaced along with the two 74LS244N's, to sort it all out is going to be in the region of 15 to 20 GBP including replacing all the custom chipset IC sockets, I reckon I will have a go at fixing it.

Fortunately all of the custom IC's are not damaged, the pins on the Gary will clean up OK.

Merlin

alexh · 24 April 2007, 16:54

Bummer, my A500+ is in a box at the bottom of a pile of other boxes... I really should get the battery off... I've known about the problem for many years but been too lazy to do anything about it. I only have myself to blame. I kept telling myself if it ends up broken I still have my A600.

Before replacing sockets etc. BUZZ out the connections with a multi-meter. Perhaps you can find just one that needs a "jumper wire" replacement.

Merlin · 24 April 2007, 17:11

@ Alexh

I can see missing legs on the Gary socket and the 74SL244N's due to corrosion caused by the leaking electrolyte, I am not spoiling the ship for a half penn'orth of tar, I could solder the chips direct but Maplin do socket strip at a reasonable price, so that's the way I am going.

Besides, it's a challenge...

Merlin

pmc · 24 April 2007, 20:54

I've got an A500+ and didn't know about this problem. I'd like to open it up and remove the battery before any bad things happen - are there any good resources around with an idiots guide to getting one open and finding the right bit to remove?

keropi · 24 April 2007, 20:59

DJBASE sells some small pcbs that have a small lithium coin battery, and have 3 legs too, total and compltete replacement, unsolder old battery, solder new pcb... they rock!

see it HERE suits almost all amigas !!!

pmc · 24 April 2007, 22:35

Took the plunge and opened up my A500+. I've never opened it before so I was a bit wary but I found the battery - it had started to leak but no lasting damage done - and removed it.

That should keep her going for a while!

amigarobbo · 28 April 2007, 23:03

The 500+ had a battery?

Well, live and learn. Although it was about 10 years ago I got rid of mine, I'm sure I had to set the time..

24 April 2007, 13:56	#1
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 51 Posts: 1,122	What symptoms would a flat mobo battery cause on an A500+? Hi I have got hold of a basket case A500+ from Fleabay, if nothing else I thought it would be useful for the chips on board to upgrade another A500 I have, it came with no floppy drive. I have opened the case to examine it and it's obvious that the onboard battery has leaked as some of the tracks are corroded. Plugging the unit in gives a green screen, I am aware this could mean duff RAM, could the dead battery also cause this symptom? Merlin

24 April 2007, 14:10	#2
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	yes, if the tracks that have corrosion are related to onboard ram... leakage can kill vital parts of an amiga I have an example of an A4000D , that the battery leaked and after no fastram was recognised in any of the 4 SIMM slots... __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

24 April 2007, 16:54	#4
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,508	Bummer, my A500+ is in a box at the bottom of a pile of other boxes... I really should get the battery off... I've known about the problem for many years but been too lazy to do anything about it. I only have myself to blame. I kept telling myself if it ends up broken I still have my A600. Before replacing sockets etc. BUZZ out the connections with a multi-meter. Perhaps you can find just one that needs a "jumper wire" replacement. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

24 April 2007, 20:59	#7
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,041	DJBASE sells some small pcbs that have a small lithium coin battery, and have 3 legs too, total and compltete replacement, unsolder old battery, solder new pcb... they rock! see it HERE suits almost all amigas !!! __________________ *A1200D mfilos ed.* : ACA 1231/42 , Indivision MK2 , IDEfix Express , Subway , PicoPSU 120w custom 3.9 ROM/OS**

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24 April 2007, 16:21	#3
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 51 Posts: 1,122	I've looked closer at the board, the Gary socket is badly corroded and will need to be replaced along with the two 74LS244N's, to sort it all out is going to be in the region of 15 to 20 GBP including replacing all the custom chipset IC sockets, I reckon I will have a go at fixing it. Fortunately all of the custom IC's are not damaged, the pins on the Gary will clean up OK. Merlin

24 April 2007, 17:11	#5
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 51 Posts: 1,122	@ Alexh I can see missing legs on the Gary socket and the 74SL244N's due to corrosion caused by the leaking electrolyte, I am not spoiling the ship for a half penn'orth of tar, I could solder the chips direct but Maplin do socket strip at a reasonable price, so that's the way I am going. Besides, it's a challenge... Merlin

24 April 2007, 20:54	#6
pmc is long gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,590	I've got an A500+ and didn't know about this problem. I'd like to open it up and remove the battery before any bad things happen - are there any good resources around with an idiots guide to getting one open and finding the right bit to remove?

24 April 2007, 22:35	#8
pmc is long gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,590	Took the plunge and opened up my A500+. I've never opened it before so I was a bit wary but I found the battery - it had started to leak but no lasting damage done - and removed it. That should keep her going for a while!

28 April 2007, 23:03	#9
amigarobbo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 181	The 500+ had a battery? Well, live and learn. Although it was about 10 years ago I got rid of mine, I'm sure I had to set the time..

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