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Old 16 April 2007, 16:54   #61
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you know say what you want guys.... i am an optomist.

however with amiga.inc at the helm (ie. fleec-you-mossy and co-horts) there is no way anything will be done to bring it back as a viable commercial entity, infact i think in that way the amiga is resigned to its long past fame....

BUT....

here we all are.... talking about it.... dreaming about even loving top play on it... there's still life in the old girl yet!

If only they would open source 3.x and roms ....... the insurgence of retr0-gamming will claim the holy grail that is AMIGA

*ahem... thinking and drooling of the hand-helds right now...

but seriously for a moment, you might thing theres no comeback, but i argue we are experienceing it now.... just think of this.... all the projects that have opened up, revised and improved over the last 12 months...

Amiga Magazine Rack
AMR Coverdisks
KGWHD
EOB 1/2 AGA
Amiga Games Factory
Game Cover Art
Clone A
Mini Mig

and so much more i havent mentioned...

every time i check these boards i get excited to the fact something new is going to pop up...

if there was a golden age of amiga gaming, then this is the golden age of amiga-retr0ism!

If you emulate and or take it to the real machine... Amiga will be here forever (and thats no cloanto pun)

its in your blood.... your thoughts.... and intruth nearly everything you judge computers today is based on the amiga of the past...

arnt you glad to be amiga users?


You´re so right, Zetr0!
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Old 16 April 2007, 17:00   #62
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It may not be alive commercially my friend, but personally to me its more alive than ever before, i supose its a question of half full / half empty.
I agree that personally amiga is not dead, otherwise we woulnd't be here, would we??

I always wonder what would happen with amiga games if computer made it into 32-bit as it did in 16-bit. I wonder if Amiga games would be like GBA's games.
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Old 16 April 2007, 22:20   #63
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I never said it was dead, I just agreed that Amiga will never return in the form we knew in the 80s... the retro scene is as buzzing as ever and I am working on my A600+ project, following Zetro's footsteps to update a true legend and keep the dream alive... old Miggy's never die, they just get modded....

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Old 17 April 2007, 00:16   #64
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One of the first big companies to drop Amiga from offered platforms for their games was Lucas Arts. Was CD reason they dropped support, I'm not sure, but since 1992 when they released Indy IV and MI2 they focused on PC, Mac and SNES?!

When you see one of those big companies promising anything new for Amiga, you can say it's alive again, until then we are in the graveyard.
you could say Lucas is dead too

no more cool adventure from them anymore, not even sucky adventure
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Old 17 April 2007, 03:45   #65
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the reason is simple.... and not technical
sales figures where low for amiga titles. Not only was piracy huge on the amiga but the installed base was beeing eroded by 92, PC's and consoles where all the rage by then.
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Old 17 April 2007, 12:37   #66
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you could say Lucas is dead too

no more cool adventure from them anymore, not even sucky adventure
But at the time some cool adventures were not even planned on Amiga. (Full Throtle, DOTT, The Dig, Sam & Max...)

As much I like Lucas Arts' adventure games, I dislike their greed. (I know couple DOS web sites that were contacted by them to remove loom etc. downloads)
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Old 18 April 2007, 00:22   #67
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I don't believe the Amiga will ever come back as we knew it.

There. I've said it. Yes, I cried a little back then. Alone. That was a long time ago...

But there is something that cannot end. A generation of folk like me grew up with the Amiga. This left a considerable community of people that know the Amiga from the good old days, and that today work, play, use, and live on the Mac, Windows or Linux. Some even still use their real Amigas actively, others emulate them.

And yet, we will never forget the Amiga. We, on this forum, and all other Amigans will never, ever forget the Amiga. Yes, it IS that strong. The Amiga was a mix of wonderfull hardware and software, all ahead of it's time, plus an efeverscent community. It was an attitude. I call it a SPIRIT.

Today, I work all day on a Mac. Sometimes on a Windows box (when I have to), others on Linux. But I never forgot my Amiga, nor it's great community.

So let me tell you what would work. What I believe in. Give us a good, cheap enough, hardware platform, even if a special, custom-made-hardware, one. Enclose it in a nice box. Then make it available for us to buy it online, in Europe and the US. Put AmigaOS4 on it, and bundle a free developer's kit with it. Then sit back and watch as people like me join the new Amiga community and develop for the platform.

Java would bring an enourmous amount of software to the platform, so some people (me included) would start by there. It would be possible to sustain the platform just with us, old Amigans that want the dream to continue in it's new form.

Then Hyperion could concentrate on a new OS5, based on ideias from the Amiverse, MacOS X, NEXT and AmigaOS's simplicity. Maybe even start the ACP, Amiga Community Process, and (like the Java Community Process) let the interested community really shape the platform.

This is my Amiga vision for the future. The Amiga era is over, but a new one can start all over again. Give us the tools and watch us build a great platform!

If it happens, I'll be there. Will you?
 
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This is my Amiga vision for the future. The Amiga era is over, but a new one can start all over again. Give us the tools and watch us build a great platform!
But hasn't that been said for the last 10+ years? It's not gonna happen. And does it matter? You can still use Amigas, it's not as if they all stop working just because it's commercially dead. Use them and enjoy them, sod Amiga Inc, Hyperion or whoever. I just don't care.
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Old 19 April 2007, 23:01   #71
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there isn't any chance..people in these days want a system widely spread, to have many programs and especially games. I dont think there are any companies that would take such a huge risk.
so the answer is NO.
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i would prefer it myself if this question was never asked, ever again. The Amiga could finally be "abandoned" and could actually be re-invigorated through open distribution, in the way the ZX Speccy has been.

best decision Amstrad ever made was releasing the ROMs to the public domain.... if only the amiga (and its users) got the same love from any of the companies that have owned it.


to actually answer the topic question rather than just ramble... assuming you mean commercially, then the answer is:
"of course not, dont be so silly"
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Old 20 April 2007, 07:06   #74
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What's so great about Amiga OS anyway? it's ASS UGLY, clunky and very unintuitive.
Yeaccchhh.
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Fred, it's really just nostalgy and the fact that Amiga users are so familiar with it by now, after using it for some 20 odd years.

However that does not a superior OS make. :-)
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Old 20 April 2007, 11:19   #76
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Fred, it's really just nostalgy and the fact that Amiga users are so familiar with it by now, after using it for some 20 odd years.

However that does not a superior OS make. :-)
TBH, Bill Gates has had about as long to work on Windows and he can't get it right either..... Service Pack No. 3,297, anyone?? At least Commodore didn't take so many bites at the cherry.

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Heh, amigaos is so super unsecure, that no service packs could fix it.

If commodore were still around, they'd have had to do the "macos x" trick around the same time as apple did (or even before).

If the Amiga was as popular in today networked world as it was back when it was alive, it'd be a security nightmare..

The only reason Amigas aren't full of malware is, that they're not a significant platform so no-one cares about learning how to code worms for it any more.
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Old 20 April 2007, 15:23   #79
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You are right Jope, I can't see Symantec or McAfee getting worked up about an Amiga worm epidemic even if one were to break out.... kind of says it all really...mind you, at least the Miggy doesn't get adverts for Viagra or 419 scams !!!

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Old 22 April 2007, 13:49   #80
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I can't recall what Atari's GUI was called right now and it would only be being pedantic to find out what it was called anyway, since it doesn't change the overall argument, as I was talking about OS competition in the general sense, irrespective of if it was GUI, WYSIWYG, or a DOS type environment.

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Ataris GUI was called GEM, and it was (is) available for x86 too, as well as a few embedded solutions.

Embedded is a good market for old GUI:s since they usually have a small footprint and low requirements of resources.

C64 had a GUI I never had the chance to test, GEOS.
Does anyone know how usable it was?
I guess it wasn't multitasking...
 
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