Apollo 1240 accl. card

Anubis · 18 October 2006, 14:57

I heard that some users had problem with this cards.

I would like to know what kind of the problems and were they fixable.

alexh · 18 October 2006, 16:00

1040? Never heard of it.

T_hairy_bootson · 18 October 2006, 16:14

1240?

killergorilla · 18 October 2006, 16:17

Yeah he means Apollot 1240 card

Anubis · 18 October 2006, 16:17

Sorry!

It is 1240.

Apollo 1240 @ 32 mHz with 32 MB RAM accelerator

Can moderator fix the title?

Paul · 18 October 2006, 16:20

Done

Anubis · 18 October 2006, 16:21

That's what I call fast service!

Thank you Paul!

alexh · 18 October 2006, 16:32

The problems that people have with their 1240's are due to incompatibilities with certain revisions of A1200 motherboards 1.D.4 and 2B

Quote:

A1200 motherboard revision levels

When the A1200 was designed there were - as is common in designs of that complexity - some 'bugs' in the chip designs. Many of these were corrected by the time the main production runs started, but some were not, and in fact several bugs still remain in the latest revisions of the AA chip sets.

The main production board issued in the UK - Rev 1.D.1 - had onboard provision for hardware workarounds to fix the main bugs, notably bus timing problems in the Gayle and Budgie chips. In general these boards work fine with most combinations of expansion hardware and are the boards which we use to test A1200 expansion products on before shipment.

The later revisions of motherboards - particularly the revision 1.D.4 and 2.B are a different story however. These boards revisions were designed to take corrected versions of the Gayle and Budgie chips - and therefore were designed without provision for the earlier hardware workarounds. However, revised versions of the custom chips were never produced and as a consequence all but a few of the last of the AT/Escom manufactured motherboards were shipped without either bug-free chips or hardware workarounds.

In general these 1.D.4 & 2.B defects only make themselves felt when the A1200 is expanded by the addition of an '040 (or above) accelerator, high performance IDE hard drive/CDROM subsystems, Zorro slots or I/O expanders (PortPlus etc). Often any one such accessory will work, but two or more will not work in combination. Typical symptoms are an accelerator exhibiting instability problems, a graphics card failing to be recognised or a CDROM failing to show disk icons.

In response to these problems, and in conjunction with Amiga International, Eyetech has developed a set of hardware modifications applicable to 1.D.4 and 2.B motherboards. These modifications bring the 1.D.4 and 2.B boards up to 1.D.1 specifications and result in the correct and stable operation of the A1200 with most permutations of performance-enhancing accessories.

Also changes to the A1200's video circuitry to meet new EC interference emission standards means that some monitors exhibit horizontal 'tearing' of the screen image when using the PC-compatible screen modes of DBLPAL, DBLNTSC, Super72, Productivity etc. (Standard 15 kHz screen modes work fine). A modification to the A1200 main board to replace these suppression components with ones which allow the vast majority of PC-type monitors to function perfectly. However do check first - you may find that your A1200 functions fine with your monitor in these screen modes without further modification.

http://www.aminet.net/package.php?pa...1200_fixes.lha

http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/am..._mobo_fix.html

Zetr0 · 18 October 2006, 21:43

To be honest Anubis, I have found Apollo cards to be more stable than blizzards (well those blizzards pre mark 4 i.e. 1's,2's and 3's) just an opinion based on 6 accelerators (4 Apollo's) 2 blizzards. Mk2 and Mk1

alexh · 18 October 2006, 23:58

AFAIK there is only one version of Blizzard 1240

If you are talking about 1230 accelerators... it's kinda the wrong thread.

Zetr0 · 19 October 2006, 00:09

yeah yeah... eveyone loves a smart alexh

my bad, never had a blizzard 040 only 030's (as one smart alexh might of figured

)

but still had Apollo 030, 040 and 060 all run as a dream with no issues.

I sold on the 040 many moons ago and the 060 got damaged in storage (waiting on Amiga Center to get back to my request)

so kinda the wrong thread... hmm yeah... but i still have you on my christmass card list

alexh · 19 October 2006, 01:30

Breaking thread a little... Apollo 1260 is supposed to be a pile of poo... isnt it?

Jope · 19 October 2006, 07:16

The apollo cards are unstable for some, also the SCSI doesn't work properly for everyone.

JonSick · 19 October 2006, 09:52

When my bro and me had our amiga, we had tonnes of accelerator problems it almost put me off for life!

We had the Viper first and that card was absolutely terrible.

Next we exchanged for the apollo as gasteiner at the time wouldn't give us a blizzard (stoopid assholes!). But the apollo was a little better, but still very unstable.

We had some dude at the world of amiga show look over it. We were kinda worried when he started attacking our amiga motherboard with a solder pen, but dammit if it didn't fix the lot.

I have heard that the blizzards are the best for the miggys. I dunno. I got one on the way on an a1200 I've just bought so I'll know better then.

My mate has an apollo 1240 in his miggy, and it crashes all over the place - its in its box right now, amiga is just stock.

Anyone know what modification was made to our board to run this card properly? It didn't seem to make any difference to the miggy running stock, but the card was excellent afterwards.

Trying to remember, I think the guy who did it was either from Power Computing, or the guys who had the gold amiga 500. No idea of the name, though!

Jon

Chain · 19 October 2006, 09:57

i had apollo 1240/40 long time ago, ansd i think it was really bad card, generates lot of heat, random resets and gfx bux even in pal screens (tried with 1d4 and 2b mobos). So I sold it! Now i have blizzard 1240 (old, from phase5) and it runs great...

DDNI · 19 October 2006, 12:09

I have Apollo 1240 on a 1D4 mobo. No issues at all... It has been a fantastic card.

Zetr0 · 19 October 2006, 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Breaking thread a little... Apollo 1260 is supposed to be a pile of poo... isnt it?

All i can honestly say my friend, is that for nearly 2 years my apollo 060 worked its little socks off

I used contsntly leave the machine on days even weeks downloading (on a 56k modem, where every byte was precious!!!) or rendering imagine scenes (some times both).

Point to mention though, the board revision was one of those that didn`t need a work around. the only trouble I have ever had with the 060 is that its was kinda fussy over the 32mb memory simm one puts in.

if it didn`t like the simm generally it wouldn`t boot, or would boot and show no other mem, but on the VERY rare occasion it would string up the ram but the whole thing would run like a pig and eventualy crash, reset.

I had about 4 weeks of trouble finding a compatible 32MB SIMM for my 060. thats really my only gripe. (2,4,8 and 16's most worked flawlessly)

I admit i never tried the scsi as i never had the module, it was a drat and blast it when i was just too late for one on ebay, it went for £15

alexh · 19 October 2006, 13:29

But the Apollo SCSI was supposed to be very slow compared to a Blizzard. It had a Max RAM of 32-Mbyte opposed to the 128MByte of Blizzard. Memory accesses were supposed to be very slow.

But perhaps that made it very stable.

Anubis · 19 October 2006, 13:44

Thanks all!

I had no idea that answers will be so mixed up.

Zetr0 · 19 October 2006, 13:51

LOL sorry Anubis..

@Alexh,
I did hear that the SCSI was slower from a couple of sources on IRC in the day, the MAX ram on an apollo (without scsi) is 64MB but you need add / solder another 72pin simm socket on the back of the card (like my 060 is going to have)

In all honesly the SCSI module doen`t have any way of adding more RAM to the card. so respectively the APOLLOS are cheaper in construction in that way as they have a limmited memory controller...

but realistically 64MB on an Amiga....

The Apollo boards for the 060 and 040 are identical with the excetption of a 3.5v regulater for the 060 bolted on the back as opposed to a straight 5v for the 040. I believe the firmware bios needs subtle upgrade but i could be wrong in this..

I know Amiga Center in Fance can actually do the modifcation that swaps out the 040 in favour of an 060 and updates any firmware

alexh · 19 October 2006, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonSick

Anyone know what modification was made to our board to run this card properly? It didn't seem to make any difference to the miggy running stock, but the card was excellent afterwards.

I gave you the link above to the EXACT mod he did!!

utri007 · 19 October 2006, 13:56

It works fine

with 1.D.4 rev mobo

BUT it works only with 3.0 roms, I use RemApollo to load 3.1 roms

I haven't had any problems with any zorro cards buddha, gvp spectrum and delfina lite.

Apollo SCSI is slow but apollos chip memory hadling is much faster than others. (unstandard)

alexh · 19 October 2006, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

The Apollo boards for the 060 and 040 are identical with the excetption of a 3.5v regulater for the 060 bolted on the back as opposed to a straight 5v for the 040. I believe the firmware bios needs subtle upgrade but i could be wrong in this..

You are not wrong. And the best man for doing these upgrades is Per-Gunnar Johansson in Sweden.

http://per-gunnar.johansson.bwm.se/

http://www.amiga.org/modules/newbb/v...er=ASC&start=0

JonSick · 19 October 2006, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

I gave you the link above to the EXACT mod he did!!

So you did! Cheers sir!

Graham Humphrey · 19 October 2006, 21:17

I've had an Apollo 040/33 card since January and it's run fine. I currently have a 32MB simm in it - can you use bigger simms? (In just one simm slot I mean)

Jope · 19 October 2006, 21:49

Judging by the above URLs, the Apollo runs out of address lines, so 32MB is the largest SIMM that it can see.

Zetr0 · 20 October 2006, 01:31

indeedy correcto Jope!

32MB max per slot.. theres room (just) for two 72pin SIMM socketss... you will have to add the second SIMM socket yourself...

Secret Vampire · 22 October 2006, 03:22

For what it's worth, I used an Apollo 1240 for many years, initially at 25MHz, but later overclocked to 28, and eventually 32, the only instability I suffered was when using the stock PSU (Solid brick type, the best for keeping your feet warm on cold nights) it ran fine with a borrowed A500 one, and with a modified PC supply. From what I remember the board was 1d4
The SCSI is another matter, general reports seem to indicate that you're better off with a squirrel, or indeed, anything but the Apollo SCSI module, though I never tried one myself.

Anubis · 23 October 2006, 12:37

Doesn’t Amiga 1200 come with IDE HD connector?

If I ever use SCSI it would be for CD Rom, but I doubt I would ever need that.

alexh · 23 October 2006, 13:50

SCSI = Fast and low CPU usage (Well some of them)
IDE = slow and high CPU usage

Anubis · 23 October 2006, 16:24

I kind a know that, but thanks anyway.

Computer is comming with HD, and I doubt I will have to change it.

What kind of memory goes into this card? EDO or SRAM?

alexh · 23 October 2006, 16:43

FPM or EDO. (I dont think you can buy SRAM SIMMS)

DDNI · 23 October 2006, 19:16

Yup FPM and EDO simms are known to work on Apollo 1240s, however EDO enhancements is not taken advantage of.... BBOAH (dont ask what the enhancements are

)

Anubis · 23 October 2006, 19:43

What are the enhancements?

Jope · 23 October 2006, 20:19

http://arstechnica.com/paedia/r/ram_...e.part2-3.html

Zetr0 · 23 October 2006, 22:19

the best results with my 030 and 060 came with FPM (Fast Page Memory) as opposed to EDO (Extended Data Out).

earlier i mentioned my 060 board (which is identical to 040's) had issues with 32MB ram, I found that (and still have mounted on it 32MB FPM SIMM module)

but in retrospect it ran 2,4,8 and 16 EDO SIMMS without any fuss..

Anubis · 24 October 2006, 10:35

Thanks for sharing that.

Does Apollo 1240 has fan on it or just a heat sink?

Zetr0 · 24 October 2006, 13:54

all depeneds on the frequency of the chip,

25 - 33mhz should realy be a sink (even though most dont have them)

33mhz + one should have a small fan to assist airflow.

In all truth, the cooler one can keep components running the better for the life expectancy of that component.

040's run a little toasty at the best of times, so for a couple of quid one can insure that it wont be heat that kills your 040.

Anubis · 24 March 2007, 19:07

An update:

I got A1200 (Revision 1D.3), 4GB harddisk and Apollo 1240 with 32MB memory.

System is not stable with card in it.

I tried different memory cards (have bunch of those from my old PC collection) and none of them makes system any more stable.

I am not sure why I was thinking that I have 1D.4 rev (I opened it before to change HD)

Now, does this fix for 1D.4 is needed for 1D.3 as well...

What to do...

killergorilla · 25 March 2007, 01:35

Get rid of the card.

030 is exactly what you need

18 October 2006, 14:57	#1
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	Apollo 1240 accl. card I heard that some users had problem with this cards. I would like to know what kind of the problems and were they fixable. __________________

18 October 2006, 16:00	#2
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	1040? Never heard of it. __________________ Thalion Webshrine Last edited by alexh; 18 October 2006 at 16:28.

18 October 2006, 16:17	#4
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,888	Yeah he means Apollot 1240 card __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

18 October 2006, 16:17	#5
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	Sorry! It is 1240. Apollo 1240 @ 32 mHz with 32 MB RAM accelerator Can moderator fix the title? __________________

18 October 2006, 16:20	#6
Paul RIP Friends Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,157	Done __________________ The Green Amiga Alien Guides http://guide.abime.net/

18 October 2006, 16:21	#7
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	That's what I call fast service! Thank you Paul! __________________

18 October 2006, 21:43	#9
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	To be honest Anubis, I have found Apollo cards to be more stable than blizzards (well those blizzards pre mark 4 i.e. 1's,2's and 3's) just an opinion based on 6 accelerators (4 Apollo's) 2 blizzards. Mk2 and Mk1

18 October 2006, 23:58	#10
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	AFAIK there is only one version of Blizzard 1240 If you are talking about 1230 accelerators... it's kinda the wrong thread. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

19 October 2006, 00:09	#11
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	yeah yeah... eveyone loves a smart alexh my bad, never had a blizzard 040 only 030's (as one smart alexh might of figured ) but still had Apollo 030, 040 and 060 all run as a dream with no issues. I sold on the 040 many moons ago and the 060 got damaged in storage (waiting on Amiga Center to get back to my request) so kinda the wrong thread... hmm yeah... but i still have you on my christmass card list

19 October 2006, 01:30	#12
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	Breaking thread a little... Apollo 1260 is supposed to be a pile of poo... isnt it? __________________ Thalion Webshrine

19 October 2006, 07:16	#13
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 32 Posts: 4,061	The apollo cards are unstable for some, also the SCSI doesn't work properly for everyone.

19 October 2006, 09:52	#14
JonSick Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 218	When my bro and me had our amiga, we had tonnes of accelerator problems it almost put me off for life! We had the Viper first and that card was absolutely terrible. Next we exchanged for the apollo as gasteiner at the time wouldn't give us a blizzard (stoopid assholes!). But the apollo was a little better, but still very unstable. We had some dude at the world of amiga show look over it. We were kinda worried when he started attacking our amiga motherboard with a solder pen, but dammit if it didn't fix the lot. I have heard that the blizzards are the best for the miggys. I dunno. I got one on the way on an a1200 I've just bought so I'll know better then. My mate has an apollo 1240 in his miggy, and it crashes all over the place - its in its box right now, amiga is just stock. Anyone know what modification was made to our board to run this card properly? It didn't seem to make any difference to the miggy running stock, but the card was excellent afterwards. Trying to remember, I think the guy who did it was either from Power Computing, or the guys who had the gold amiga 500. No idea of the name, though! Jon

19 October 2006, 09:57	#15
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 39 Posts: 1,490	i had apollo 1240/40 long time ago, ansd i think it was really bad card, generates lot of heat, random resets and gfx bux even in pal screens (tried with 1d4 and 2b mobos). So I sold it! Now i have blizzard 1240 (old, from phase5) and it runs great...

19 October 2006, 12:09	#16
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	I have Apollo 1240 on a 1D4 mobo. No issues at all... It has been a fantastic card. __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

19 October 2006, 13:29	#18
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	But the Apollo SCSI was supposed to be very slow compared to a Blizzard. It had a Max RAM of 32-Mbyte opposed to the 128MByte of Blizzard. Memory accesses were supposed to be very slow. But perhaps that made it very stable. __________________ Thalion Webshrine

19 October 2006, 13:44	#19
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	Thanks all! I had no idea that answers will be so mixed up. __________________

19 October 2006, 13:51	#20
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	LOL sorry Anubis.. @Alexh, I did hear that the SCSI was slower from a couple of sources on IRC in the day, the MAX ram on an apollo (without scsi) is 64MB but you need add / solder another 72pin simm socket on the back of the card (like my 060 is going to have) In all honesly the SCSI module doen`t have any way of adding more RAM to the card. so respectively the APOLLOS are cheaper in construction in that way as they have a limmited memory controller... but realistically 64MB on an Amiga.... The Apollo boards for the 060 and 040 are identical with the excetption of a 3.5v regulater for the 060 bolted on the back as opposed to a straight 5v for the 040. I believe the firmware bios needs subtle upgrade but i could be wrong in this.. I know Amiga Center in Fance can actually do the modifcation that swaps out the 040 in favour of an 060 and updates any firmware

19 October 2006, 13:56	#22
utri007 mä vaan Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 303	I've apollo 040 It works fine with 1.D.4 rev mobo BUT it works only with 3.0 roms, I use RemApollo to load 3.1 roms I haven't had any problems with any zorro cards buddha, gvp spectrum and delfina lite. Apollo SCSI is slow but apollos chip memory hadling is much faster than others. (unstandard) __________________ Ibe U

19 October 2006, 21:17	#25
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 26 Posts: 9,675	I've had an Apollo 040/33 card since January and it's run fine. I currently have a 32MB simm in it - can you use bigger simms? (In just one simm slot I mean) __________________ The EAB/Lemon Amiga Super League \| Round 6 - Arcade Pool \| Round 7 voting Lemon Amiga is now on YouTube and Facebook!

19 October 2006, 21:49	#26
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 32 Posts: 4,061	Judging by the above URLs, the Apollo runs out of address lines, so 32MB is the largest SIMM that it can see.

20 October 2006, 01:31	#27
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	indeedy correcto Jope! 32MB max per slot.. theres room (just) for two 72pin SIMM socketss... you will have to add the second SIMM socket yourself...

22 October 2006, 03:22	#28
Secret Vampire Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Birmingham UK Age: 32 Posts: 213	For what it's worth, I used an Apollo 1240 for many years, initially at 25MHz, but later overclocked to 28, and eventually 32, the only instability I suffered was when using the stock PSU (Solid brick type, the best for keeping your feet warm on cold nights) it ran fine with a borrowed A500 one, and with a modified PC supply. From what I remember the board was 1d4 The SCSI is another matter, general reports seem to indicate that you're better off with a squirrel, or indeed, anything but the Apollo SCSI module, though I never tried one myself.

23 October 2006, 12:37	#29
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	Doesn’t Amiga 1200 come with IDE HD connector? If I ever use SCSI it would be for CD Rom, but I doubt I would ever need that. __________________

23 October 2006, 13:50	#30
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	SCSI = Fast and low CPU usage (Well some of them) IDE = slow and high CPU usage __________________ Thalion Webshrine

23 October 2006, 16:24	#31
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	I kind a know that, but thanks anyway. Computer is comming with HD, and I doubt I will have to change it. What kind of memory goes into this card? EDO or SRAM? __________________

23 October 2006, 16:43	#32
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 10,510	FPM or EDO. (I dont think you can buy SRAM SIMMS) __________________ Thalion Webshrine

23 October 2006, 19:16	#33
DDNI Targ Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 38 Posts: 4,535	Yup FPM and EDO simms are known to work on Apollo 1240s, however EDO enhancements is not taken advantage of.... BBOAH (dont ask what the enhancements are ) __________________ A1200D Blizzard 1230 MKIV 50Mhz 32mb RAM, 4GB HDD, CWB Full. AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOS.net The home of AmigaOS Twitter @AllanU74 _/-\| \|\/\| \| (-, \|-\_

23 October 2006, 19:43	#34
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	What are the enhancements? __________________

23 October 2006, 20:19	#35
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 32 Posts: 4,061	http://arstechnica.com/paedia/r/ram_...e.part2-3.html Last edited by Jope; 23 October 2006 at 22:00.

23 October 2006, 22:19	#36
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	the best results with my 030 and 060 came with FPM (Fast Page Memory) as opposed to EDO (Extended Data Out). earlier i mentioned my 060 board (which is identical to 040's) had issues with 32MB ram, I found that (and still have mounted on it 32MB FPM SIMM module) but in retrospect it ran 2,4,8 and 16 EDO SIMMS without any fuss..

24 October 2006, 10:35	#37
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	Thanks for sharing that. Does Apollo 1240 has fan on it or just a heat sink? __________________

24 October 2006, 13:54	#38
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 9,185	all depeneds on the frequency of the chip, 25 - 33mhz should realy be a sink (even though most dont have them) 33mhz + one should have a small fan to assist airflow. In all truth, the cooler one can keep components running the better for the life expectancy of that component. 040's run a little toasty at the best of times, so for a couple of quid one can insure that it wont be heat that kills your 040.

24 March 2007, 19:07	#39
Anubis Duck hunter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Huntin' Ducks! Age: 40 Posts: 1,786	An update: I got A1200 (Revision 1D.3), 4GB harddisk and Apollo 1240 with 32MB memory. System is not stable with card in it. I tried different memory cards (have bunch of those from my old PC collection) and none of them makes system any more stable. I am not sure why I was thinking that I have 1D.4 rev (I opened it before to change HD) Now, does this fix for 1D.4 is needed for 1D.3 as well... What to do... __________________

25 March 2007, 01:35	#40
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 31 Posts: 7,888	Get rid of the card. 030 is exactly what you need __________________ I'm totally gratified that people find Interceptor worthy of being downloaded and played after so many years especially in light of its rather rudimentary visual content by standards constantly increasing over time.

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