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Old 16 July 2012, 10:38   #61
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All I can say is.... well with the wait for Clone-A... this better be awesomely awesome!!
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Old 16 July 2012, 12:43   #62
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yepp.... and droooool... this looks like the best classic reimplementation.
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Old 06 December 2013, 20:20   #63
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Old 09 December 2013, 13:18   #65
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I don't think clone-a will ever materialize.
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Old 09 December 2013, 16:43   #66
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I don't think clone-a will ever materialize.
Missed the live demonstration at Amiwest 2006? Missed the live demonstration on march 31st, 2007 in Aachen, Germany? It's just not for sale, but it "materialized". And it's not dead - I've put way too much money into the project to drop it.

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Old 09 December 2013, 16:59   #67
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I don't think it will materialize either. At this point it can't really compete with MikeJ's Replay board, which even has built-in RTG.
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Old 09 December 2013, 17:21   #68
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I don't think it will materialize either.
Indivision ECS and AGA seem to be spin off from Clone A so partially they are materialized but real product itself probably will be never sell.

And what is really important Jens have no monopoly on 100% HW compatibility - once again - with modern REI Amiga community can order full logic level\gate level schematics from many companies that can decapsulate chips and do full layout analysis - this can be done also in home with some patience... http://www.degate.org/ http://uvicrec.blogspot.nl/
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Old 09 December 2013, 19:16   #69
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I support all Amiga projects by default. So if anything comes out of it I will be happy, and a potential customer.

It is not very productive, or useful to slant Amiga projects. Many of them fail, yes, but they all have the best of intentions.
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Old 09 December 2013, 20:41   #70
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I support all Amiga projects by default. So if anything comes out of it I will be happy, and a potential customer.

It is not very productive, or useful to slant Amiga projects. Many of them fail, yes, but they all have the best of intentions.
I agree
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Old 09 December 2013, 20:57   #71
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I support all Amiga projects by default.
That's also not productive. It encourages low quality.
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Old 09 December 2013, 21:06   #72
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That's also not productive. It encourages low quality.
Well, you have the option of not buying it then.
And the author has gained some knowledge how to build a better product next time. It is still better than no one trying. Or bashing anyone who tries.
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I support all Amiga projects by default. So if anything comes out of it I will be happy, and a potential customer.

It is not very productive, or useful to slant Amiga projects. Many of them fail, yes, but they all have the best of intentions.
I also agree. I have a little bit of cash these days, nice to see someone putting their effort into producing something for what is somehow still my favorite computer. They can have my cash!
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Old 09 December 2013, 21:50   #74
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I think the problem is that people (partially those directly involved in the project and partially those that 'heard' about the project) post too early (and too much 'wishful thinking') about it. That and the fact that it happened too often create those seemingly negative reactions which are frankly just a result of experience with those announcements.

That said both bumping old threads for the sake of showing support without any news and nay-saying doesn't help A lot of threads got scratched from the bottom of the board because Elbox announced a new accelerator and the ACA500 is finally available. Let's please just talk in those threads for now and give old projects the benefit of doubt 'until further notice'
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Missed the live demonstration at Amiwest 2006? Missed the live demonstration on march 31st, 2007 in Aachen, Germany? It's just not for sale, but it "materialized". And it's not dead - I've put way too much money into the project to drop it.

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I did, any vids online?
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Old 09 December 2013, 22:53   #76
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No videos, but pictures: http://www.a1k.org/forum/showthread.php?p=51619
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Old 09 December 2013, 23:18   #77
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2006 are ages ago.

just because stuff have been on display does not mean much in amiga land.
But if it will ever be on sale, I will eat my words, and most likely buy it.

But until then, its dragon, panda, boxer you name it.
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Old 10 December 2013, 00:40   #78
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Missed the live demonstration at Amiwest 2006? Missed the live demonstration on march 31st, 2007 in Aachen, Germany? It's just not for sale, but it "materialized". And it's not dead - I've put way too much money into the project to drop it.

Jens

Sell it as a drop-in classic Motherboard replacement, you'll get at least one sale from me
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Ah, I thought it was a complete replacement. Not different boards, being clones of chips.

Was really hoping for a complete replacement. As then the board could maybe manufactured to fit ATX/mATX cases.
I don't see a point in it being released now, as pointed out by others and Jens himself.

Its only good for milking the tech created for it., .
I would love to see this turned into a portable project (i.e. handheld). I would buy that in an instant.

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The pictures from 2007 show the development platform.
Jens and Oliver used it back then to reverse engeneer the custom chips. While doing this, they mixed Clone-A chips and Amiga chips to make sure, they work EXACTLY the same as the original chips.

There was a talk at Breakpoint 2007 of Jens describing how they did it.
=> there you go: https://www.scene.org/file.php?file=...d.avi&fileinfo

He also says, that they won't offer replacement chips, because they would be WAY more expensive than the original ones. Clone-A will be fittet into a big, single FPGA. Some BGA monster I suppose.
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