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Old 13 July 2006, 00:18   #21
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Oliver I wish you all the best. I hope that this time the PCB is good and the results from the "oxypatching" result in a viable upgrade.
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Old 13 July 2006, 11:14   #22
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got another question,

we have looked on the processor as 95% compatable *with opticode trap & software translation*, I am assuming that the V4 coldfusion CPU has a closely related but also a specific opticode set, this being the case what of perhaps a specific V4 coldfusion comipiler thus perhaps promoting better speed / compatability throughout software.
There are already Coldfire assemblers and C compilers available on the Amiga, The Amiga port of GCC for example supports Coldfires in general (PC ones support specific Coldfires, dont know about the Amiga port though, it just seems to have a -coldfire option)
Aminet already has a Coldfire assembler that supports the V4.
So fingers crossed we already have all the software we need. :-)
(I wonder if Storm could be altered to support it as its based on GCC, just change it so the -68K tag actually enables the coldfire instructions...)

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...did i just read the potential of ONBOARD USB!?!?!??!?!?
The last prototype I kind of went mad and added any extra I wanted (Which ment more wires and more to go wrong) and that had USB, Firewire, AC97 audio, IRDA, etc etc etc...
The current card is a very basic design but if it worked I would change the board to a 6 layer design (the two current data layers, two power planes and two extra data layers top and bottom) which would free up almost all of the top surface for extra's. USB is something I have been playing with for a while, it would only be 1.1 (8 bit interface) but it would be cheap.
What upgrades are on depend a lot on target price, what the final design looks like, etc.

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heres a cheeky question,
how much do you think it will retail for?
The target price is 150, however the actual components to make up the board are very cheap in bulk so IF a first run could have.. say... 250 pieces it could go below 100. 150 is the most likley though.

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How does one utilise this with regard to the kickstart rom(s)?
Either a flash chip on the CPU board would boot first and add the required 68K compatability software or the kickstart would need to be changed.
Up to now I have gone the flash chip route, this card is the first to go with changing the kickstart chip.
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Old 13 July 2006, 12:05   #23
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purely...... amazing.....

I am saving my pocket money now....
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Old 13 July 2006, 12:23   #24
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I think that in a project like this less is more. I am a strong believer in the K.I.S.S. method.

CPU + RAM + Flash. Seems a good start.

The software effort to patch these instructions isnt going to be trivial I fear :-(

You will almost certainly need the best of the remaining low-level Amiga programmers to help (which may mean several "free" developer boards).

Good luck.
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You will almost certainly need the best of the remaining low-level Amiga programmers to help (which may mean several "free" developer boards).
Alternatively, just sell it fullprice, and let the first three supercoders get a free upgrade of the card aferwards. with supercoders I mean the people that set out to produce an even better instructionpatcher
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Old 19 July 2006, 01:33   #26
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gonna have to bump this thread because of two reasons

1) Its damn cool!
2) when can i get one?!
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We're hoping Oli can at the very least Demo his board at Big Bash 4
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We're hoping Oli can at the very least Demo his board at Big Bash 4
When and where is big bash 4 going to be?
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Targetting 16th September.

Will confirm after first to weeks of August. (waiting on announcment of something !!)



Big Bash is held in Peterborough. Which is just about Central to everywhere in UK.

Details of BB4 will be posted on the dedicated Big Bash website

http://amigabigbash.net/



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peterborough you say??? I'm in Kings Lynn, tis but only 30 mins away...*hehe*...

let us hope that Oli has a demo board and turns his back for 0.5 nano seconds *teheheheh*
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peterborough you say??? I'm in Kings Lynn, tis but only 30 mins away...*hehe*...
Yep, I will be at the BigBash and so will the Coldfire card, Just adding components to it now. (In a couple of days the last parts will be on and testing will begin, yay)

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let us hope that Oli has a demo board and turns his back for 0.5 nano seconds *teheheheh*
Mwwaaaaaa
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Honestly Oli, it wasn`t me... it was err.... errrr... Outcast .. see look at that face... you know he did it.....

*quickly makes sharp exit*

....

not that i have this planned or anything
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