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Old 26 June 2006, 17:06   #61
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There can only be one... well one good one.

I doubt there isn't a BASIC I have not programmed in over the last 20 or so years...

*ahem, I'm not that old *

The best BASIC (obvioulsy was't amiga, cbm or M$ lol) but IMHO was ZX80.. lets see.... I was the grand age of 9 years old. my father decided to get a ZX80 (little white kit built computer / cheese wedge thingy )..

and under supervision I built my first computer (also had my first, second and third soldering blister too).

But the pain was worth it for when i finnished I had a monster 1Kbyte of RAM Computer! with a FULL BASIC interpreter..

by the time I was nine and a half I was a BASIC guru (game prices and pocketmoney could never be equal!). using BASIC to poke values to memory address and build hard-coded routines and multiple subfunctions. Line numbers were virtualy a thing of the past.. infact I think it was just before my 10th Birthday that I changed from my Zx80 Kit built with Kempston interface and 16KB RamPack and Curraspeach unit to a 8 colour 48k spectrum ... ahhh such days.... the strange thing is though. even though they used exactly the same chip and interpreter it just felt slightly slower than that zx80....

By the time i was 13 ish i was already into asm and hardly ever touched basic after that.... (untill i had no choice in 1994 with Qbasic and VB1 through 3 nasty little blighters they were)

hmmm

10: for F = usr "a" to usr "u": read a: poke f,a: next f
90: data 255,129,129,129,129,129,129,255

there must be some that know what that does

but today, REAL coders use C++

JAVA's nice for prototyping,
Pascal is good for posing
(I remeber those in the above school year who thought they knew it all. I out codeded them on an Acorn using BASIC... because i could! )

and finally ASM is good for boring your best mate / girlfriend (and proving howmuch a geek you are ) and since i am lazy i can never be botherd to order my created toolsets properly..

but hey... isn't programming fun?!


PS. i dont know how they did it, but microsoft took the fun outa programming

l8rs Z.
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90: data 255,129,129,129,129,129,129,255
I'm no speccy expert, but understand the basic behind it. Just give's me an out of memory error under speccy 48k. But basically it just pokes the memory addresses 65368 - 65528 with the data underneath.

So go on... gimme a clue... whats it used for?
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*teehee* go into extended graphics mode and press the letter a *teehee*
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I'll give it a try... I suppose I should really have looked at the memory map for the speccy first eh!
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Commodore screwed MS on the orginal contract for the pet basic vic20 and c64. Which all used the same basic. MS was only paid for the pet basic by a loop hole in the contract commodore was allowed reused and change the basic used by these computers without additional payment.
I bet Bill Gates NEVER forgot that...
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@antiriad: Yeah thats most probably why Billy only made $80billion USD and not $82billion
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Old 10 August 2006, 03:42   #67
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I'll give it a try... I suppose I should really have looked at the memory map for the speccy first eh!
You'll find that the code posted is not going to do what the author intended :-p

Try this instead:

10 FOR f=USR "a" TO USR "a"+7: READ a: POKE f,a: NEXT f
20 DATA 255,129,129,129,129,129,129,255

Then enter graphics mode (Caps Shift+9 in an emulator, Alt-GR/Right-Alt in BASin) and press "a".

If you've not seen it, BASin is an Emulator/Development IDE for the best implementation of BASIC ever - Sinclair BASIC :-)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.dunn4/BASin_r13a.exe

But that's really getting off-topic now.

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"Amiga BASIC is the most powerful BASIC interpreter supplied with any personal computer on the market. Written by Microsoft, it combines in a single language almost every feature found in IBM PC Advanced BASIC plus Microsoft BASIC for the Macintosh. In fact, many IBM BASICA and Macintosh BASIC programs will run on the Amiga with minor modifications."

COMPUTE! ISSUE 70 / MARCH 1986 / PAGE 105. Tom R. Halfhill, Editor

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basic for the amiga are amigabasic amos basic gfabasic hisoft basic and Abasic
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Yes, actually, if there's something wrong with MS BASIC,
there is also something wrong with the C-64,
and for me the only thing wrong with that was porting anything that
used it's graphic characters and colours to draw anything
(ie. Planetarium)
because that is difficult to port to another BASIC.
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Yep. Pet, C64, etc. all used Microsoft BASIC (along with about every other home computer).



But that deal meant that the C64 had the same primitive BASIC as the Pet.
just like to point out that when commodore pet come out bill gate was still at school. and commodore was make computer long be for microsoft and apple come out.
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and commodore was make computer long be for microsoft and apple come out.
That's not true. Commodore (well, actually MOS Technology, before CBM bought them) released the KIM-1 in 1976. The Apple I was also released in 1976. Microsoft was founded in April 1975, with Altair BASIC being their flagship product at the time.

Commodore's 8-bit BASICs were always Microsoft's 6502 BASIC, which was originally written in 1976. Their 8080 BASIC (first appearing on the Altair), being the product that gave Microsoft their start, was written in 1975. The PET and Apple II both came out in 1977, both using Microsoft BASIC.

Relevant articles:
Bill Gates' Personal Easter Eggs in 8 Bit BASIC
Create your own Version of Microsoft BASIC for 6502
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Commodore screwed MS on the orginal contract for the pet basic vic20 and c64. Which all used the same basic. MS was only paid for the pet basic by a loop hole in the contract commodore was allowed reused and change the basic used by these computers without additional payment.
here you will hear from Jack Tramiel about doing business with Bill Gates (regarding Basic!):

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basic for the amiga are amigabasic amos basic gfabasic hisoft basic and Abasic
What? BlitzBasic wasn't for Amiga????

I'll have to uninstall that then....
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What? BlitzBasic wasn't for Amiga????

I'll have to uninstall that then....



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitz_BASIC


blitz basic was on the amiga as me and my brother use it on the Amiga
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Well you didn't list Blitz in your first post, I just picked up on it was slightly sarcy about it
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Well you didn't list Blitz in your first post, I just picked up on it was slightly sarcy about it
sorry i miss read your reply to my i did mean to put in blitzbasic
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"Amiga BASIC is the most powerful BASIC interpreter supplied with any personal computer on the market. Written by Microsoft, it combines in a single language almost every feature found in IBM PC Advanced BASIC plus Microsoft BASIC for the Macintosh. In fact, many IBM BASICA and Macintosh BASIC programs will run on the Amiga with minor modifications."

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hmmmm... So does this mean our early Amiga's were PC poisoned?
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hmmmm... So does this mean our early Amiga's were PC poisoned?
but with Microsoft Basic you could do amazing stuff!!!

like this: [ Show youtube player ]
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