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Old 27 May 2006, 17:40   #21
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Atari backwards is Irata which is Japanese for "sucky"
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Old 27 May 2006, 17:43   #22
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Can anyone point me to the best Atari 800 emulator + some of the best games to emulate? IIRC Dropzone was the first game Archer MacLean made for Atari 800?
The best emulator is Atari800Win Plus

http://www.a800win.atari-area.prv.pl/

games

http://www.atarimania.com/

http://www.atari.online.pl/v01/index.phtml?ct=nowinki

http://vjetnam.hopto.org/

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Old 27 May 2006, 19:51   #23
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killed tons of the Joysticks playing Decathlon
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Old 27 May 2006, 20:59   #24
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Great machines, all 8-bit Ataris! Back in 1982-83, an uncle of mine bought a 2600, and we had a great time playing Space Invaders, Boxing, Video Olympics and Demon Attack(superb game!!).
Some ten years later, I bought a second hand 800XL off a newspaper ad and realized how powerful this machine is, in fact! A brilliant homecomputer, not only for gaming... Meanwhile, I already had my C=64 and Amiga 500, since '88 and I really love both machines and played a lot around with them... but XL impressed me with its colourful demos and advanced performance!! Lots of fun! Nowadays I own 2 800XLs, 2 65XEs, an 800XE an 130XE, 2 1050s and a XF551! I do some fiddling with them from time to time and I really lke them still! Also built a SIO2PC cable, for transferring .ATRs to real disks! Great equipment (as with xe1541 on C=64)!!
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Old 28 May 2006, 13:21   #25
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Nice interview with david crane (author of VCS pitfall).
http://www.gooddealgames.com/intervi...vid_Crane.html
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Old 05 June 2006, 17:17   #26
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I bought an Atari 800XL as my very first computer in 1984 (after owning a 2600 for years). I bought it home that afternoon, played with it all night, then for some reason packed it back into its box and took it back to the shop the next day and changed it to a Commodore 64.

Never looked back.
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Old 12 June 2006, 15:46   #27
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LOL! Atari 800 is probably one of the first 8bits I ever touched. My mates brother had one. I loved the way it does a long fart when you boot it up - great!!!!!
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Old 12 June 2006, 23:27   #28
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A friend of mine had an Atari 800XL and I thought it was awesome. At the time, all I had was a wimpy Colour Computer 2. I constantly went to his house to play all the great Atari games - so much that eventually he got sick of seeing me. But that was okay because a few years later I got an Amiga .

Commodore fans usually consider the Amiga a kind of sequel to the C64, but to me it was more like a next generation Atari 800. I think the Atari 800XL is the ultimate 8-bit computer just as the Amiga is the ultimate 16/32-bit. (and Jay Miner designed both)

My top 5 Atari 800 games:
1. Montezuma's Revenge (16K version)
2. Ballblazer (Ballblaster)
3. Rescue on Fractalus!
4. Blue Max
5. Boulderdash
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Old 13 June 2006, 16:17   #29
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Commodore fans usually consider the Amiga a kind of sequel to the C64, but to me it was more like a next generation Atari 800. I think the Atari 800XL is the ultimate 8-bit computer just as the Amiga is the ultimate 16/32-bit. (and Jay Miner designed both)
Indeed!! [IMG]images/smilies/great.gif[/IMG]My only objection is the sound chip, C64 was WAY better for music
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My only objection is the sound chip, C64 was WAY better for music
Yes the SID chip is better, but none of my favourite games made good use of the SID. Surprisingly, my five favourite games listed all sound better on the Atari. For example, "Rescue on Fractalus" music is way better on the Atari because for some unknown reason, they replaced the music on the C64 version. Lots of sound effects are better on the Atari versions.

There is only 1 SID tune that impressed me back in those days - the amazing "Synth_sample.sid" from a 1984 demo by Georg Feil. I'm sure there are lots of other great SID tunes, but by the time they came out I was already using Amiga which of course blows away the SID.
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The SID chip was a lot better, but I agree with mr_500 the game sounds are better. I just wish in 1983/4 that they would have expanded the system abilities a little.

- 640x200, 2 colors
- 320x200, 4 colors
- 160x200, 16 colors
- 8 16x16 player missles, with 4 color graphics
- optional 68000 processor w/512k ram

But then I'd have a Jr. Amiga wouldn't I?
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Yes the SID chip is better, but none of my favourite games made good use of the SID. Surprisingly, my five favourite games listed all sound better on the Atari. For example, "Rescue on Fractalus" music is way better on the Atari because for some unknown reason, they replaced the music on the C64 version. Lots of sound effects are better on the Atari versions.
The U.S. was not exactly a breeding ground for audio creativity on the C64 (or any other platform, for that matter). Witness stuff like Bionic Commando, where the appalling music was re-written by Tim Follin for the European release. There are other examples of this happening on other games as well. All of your top five games are, no surprise, developed in the U.S. That doesn't entirely explain why the Atari Rescue on Fractalus audio is better, but it could have been audio apathy on the C64 one.
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Old 14 June 2006, 13:03   #33
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The U.S. was not exactly a breeding ground for audio creativity on the C64 (or any other platform, for that matter).
I agree with that. Europeans almost always make better music than Americans.

It's also a matter of timing. My favourite 8-bit games were 1985 and earlier. The C64 Euro scene was only getting started in 1986 at a time when Atari was dead in Canada and the C64 was on the way out.
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Atari Inc. is going to be at the VGXPO

Since this is 8-bit Atari related, I thought I would add this.

Check this out, Atari Inc. is going to be at the VGXPO taking place on October 27-29th at the Valley Forge Convention Center near Philadelphia. Here's the link to AtariAge, http://www.atariage.com/ . Here is a direct quote from the article "Atari's involvement with this event signals their commitment to embrace the classic gaming community and we're excited to be working with them!". I sure wish other old Game/Computer Manufractures would do this. Take a guess who? Amiga, and Commodore since they are back in business.
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My first console was an Atari 2600 before spectrum+3 and c64 and I had quite a collection ofgames for it (although 90% of em were my dads because i couldnt afford to buy games back when i was 6-7 and he played the system almost as much as me ) Games were very much designed as multiplayer back in those days. now you have to have multiple machines for any hope of 2 player games.

my personal favurate games on the atari were StarMaster, Enduro, space invaders, yars revenge and Super Tennis (But damned if i can find a rom image of this - its like it never existed !)
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Old 23 October 2006, 23:13   #36
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Yep, Atari 2600 was my introduction to computers. Q-Bert, Crystal Castles, Ms. Pacman, Star Raiders... good times.
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Old 23 October 2006, 23:16   #37
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Similar beginnings for me also

I started off with an Atari 2600, then a C64 and then an Amiga 500
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Old 24 October 2006, 12:56   #38
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I had an atari 800 xl and always loved to play with it. I remember games like karateka, Fiji, drop zone, Strike Eagle, Ghostbusters, Theatre Europe (Midnight Sun )

I even had a Turbo Loader installed into the so called "datasette" (dont really remember what it was called, you put the tape in it and load the game) normally it took a while to load games with it but using the turbo loader you could load games ten times faster.

Those were the days!
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Old 24 October 2006, 19:13   #39
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The Atari 800XL was my first ever computer, The system i learnt basic on and my only system for about 5 years until we got an ST and then an Amiga.

I built up a massive tape and cart collection for it over the years. After about 1986 the 8bit ataris started to gradually fade from the mainstream, in the uk anyway and it became harder and harder to find new games, Atari did keep selling the hardware, in the XE / XG ranges, but hardly any software seemed to be available for them by then.
I did grow to become jealous of my c64 owning friends and the wealth of software they had available.

Another thing i remember is that few games ever seemeded used the full 64k of ram on the 800/800XLs, most games were written so they'd run on Atari400/600XLs.

Still it had some amazing games on it, some personal favourites

Rescue of Fractalus
Dropzone
Mercenary
Ghost Chaser
Miner2049er + Bounty bob strikes back
Great american road race
Galaxians (on cart)
Asteroids (on cart)
M.U.L.E.
Blue max
Rally speedway (the game micromachines blatantly ripped of)

I still have my 2 800XLs and games in the loft.
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Old 25 October 2006, 02:24   #40
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VCS and C64 for me.

I sure do miss those days and wish i was trapped in some sort of time bubble.

Pitfall is still an amazing game and actually not as hard as you first might think - risk equalling reward depending on how much risk you were prepared to take.Perfect design frankly.VCS had some great games.

C64 was similarly great and although it lacked a raw performance and pallete of the Atari , it certainly made up for it with it's Sid and less gaudy colours(Only 16 colours but they were more natural) .Glad i went with the C64 but in truth , the Atari should have dominated the 8bits.
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