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Old 10 April 2006, 17:37   #41
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LOL

bippym... Ooops, just finished editing my post while you were posted your response

I agree with what you've just said
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Old 10 April 2006, 18:11   #42
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Ok, finished work early today and now at home.

Starting to play the [cr Genetix] set. Initial observation, French keyboard also at first password protection screen...

I'm crazy hey? Really want to get to the bottom of this and have a completely working set

Anyway, give a 5 hours or so and then I'll report my findings
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the disk 2's 3's and 4's off these other sets might be interchangeable!!

Usually only the first disk (main exe) is cracked...

Good spot.My 4 disks are definitely one set.
The disks 2-4 are these:
(thanks Adderly!)
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4).adf 8D86E362
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2Supplex].adf BC251E01
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf 98A8BE0A
The trainer tag should be removed.And the disks are interchangeable.
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Starting to play the [cr Genetix] set. Initial observation, French keyboard also at first password protection screen...

I'm crazy hey? Really want to get to the bottom of this and have a completely working set

Anyway, give a 5 hours or so and then I'll report my findings
Have fun with it, m8!
I'll scan all disks now for bad files and other things and will do some compare with the (fr, de, en) versions of the SPS/Caps images. I'll post my findings in some hours, too.
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Hey guys,

Well I'm back after playing the [cr Genetix] set on WinUAE v1.0.0...

Unfortunately I don't have good news. Same thing as with the Interpol set i.e. on the 4th "job" where you need to fix a CPU in a computer, the mission brief had f$%ked up text again (see attached screen shot). Stopped playing this version now

As I have the Flashback .ipf files, my next test will be as follows:

... Boot using my cracked Disk 1.
... Enter in the password for Level 2 - Easy.
... When asked for Disk 2, I will insert the .ipf Disk 2. Hopefully this works.

I want to check if the .ipf file has this also. Will post my finding soon...

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Hmmm, very strange

I did as I said above:

... Booted using my [cr Genetix] Disk 1.
... Entered in the password LOUP for Level 2 - Easy.
... When asked for Disk 2, I will inserted the .ipf Disk 2.

Level 2 loaded fine. Got to where Ian is, sat in the chair and was asked to insert Disk 1? This didn't happen before with the full cracked set... Anyway, inserted the .ipf Disk 1, it loaded for a bit and then asked for Disk 2 again. Inserted the .ipf Disk 2 again, I was then show the cutscene in French

The .ipf set that I used was this one which is supposed to be English:

... 1163 Flashback 4 en OCS v1.0 22.4.93 PAL EU

Luckily I have another .ipf set which is this one:

... 1885 Flashback 4 en OCS Delphine Collection PAL EU

Off to try again...

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My investigation so far:

all original SPS/IPF versions (de,fr,en) have on disk#1:
data/frcine.txt: Fr language
read.me: Fr or de or en language info

->seems if we have an english data/frcine.txt is must be the Ministry translation hack!

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4).adf B9607E61
exe: 190.628 kb crc32:5AF24163
frcine: Fr
read.me: Fr
->uncracked version

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf 39E19B3D
exe: 83.312 kb CRC32:E328195C
frcine: En
read.me: Fr
ingame: En
should be renamed to:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry].adf

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf A9128C90
exe:83.312 CRC32:E328195C
frcine:en
read.me:fr
ingame: en
should be renamed to:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][a].adf

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf A882CD2F
exe:83.812 E328195C
frcine:en
read.me:fr
ingame: en
should be renamed to:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][a2].adf

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf 21D60F89
exe: 83.312 E328195c
frcine:en
read.me:fr
ingame: en
should be renamed to:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][a3].adf

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a4].adf A4DF7419
exe: 190.628 D7CA85FE
frcine:fr
read.me:fr
ingame: fr
should be renamed to: -> remove [a4]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 14BA597B
exe: 83.880 748C9D05
frcine:En
read.me:fr
ingame: en
should be renamed to: Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf D67563A5
exe: 83.732 B32E3F47
frcine:Fr
read.me:fr
ingame: fr

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf 07DB7D39
exe: 83.336 4A31EE77
frcine:fr
read.me:fr
ingame: fr

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 1 of 4).adf B3E58BD3
exe: 193028 ADCBF215
frcine:fr
read.me:de
->uncracked

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 1 of 4)[a].adf D11AF302
exe: 193028 ADCBF215
frcine:fr
read.me:de
->[b] file "music/fin" corrupt
->uncracked

Adderly's versions:

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf E807EFE7
exe: 83.312 CRC32:E328195C
frcine: En
read.me: -
ingame: en
should be rename to: [cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][h Genetix]
->seems Genetix just hacked the startup-sequence, the executable is identical with the Interpol crack/Ministry translation

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a Adderly].adf B9B84348
exe: 83.312 CRC32:015E0017
frcine: En
read.me: Ministry translation info
should be renamed to: [tr En Ministry][v Saddam]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex][a Adderly].adf 00839A76
exe: 83.336 CRC32:4A31EE77
frcine: Fr
read.me: Fr
ingame: fr
->[b] file "music/fin" corrupt
->(Fr) version

Bippym's version:

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 9A9B962A
exe: 83124 11094667
frcine:fr
read.me:fr

NOB's version:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][h Spreadpower][a NOB].adf 20C292CF
exe: 83.124 11094667
frcine:Fr
read.me:fr
ingame text: fr

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Old 10 April 2006, 21:59   #48
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Hi DamienD,
if i'm right the Genetix "crack" is identical with the one from Interpol!

Maybe the f$%ked up text is because it should illustrate the defect CPU for that mission! Can this be the reason????
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You meant [x En Ministry], not [tr En Ministry] right?

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Maybe the f$%ked up text is because it should illustrate the defect CPU for that mission! Can this be the reason????
I seem to remember seeing that screen on the A500 when it came out.
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Wow, Adderly that's a lot of research you've done

Nice therory about the f$%ked up text... You are going to find what I'm about to write very, very interesting then!!! Using the .ipf set 1885 Flashback 4 en OCS Delphine Collection PAL EU:

... Booted using my [cr Genetix] Disk 1.
... Entered in the password LOUP for Level 2 - Easy.
... When asked for Disk 2, I will inserted the .ipf Disk 2.

Level 2 loaded fine. Got to where Ian is, sat in the chair and was asked to insert Disk 1? Inserted the .ipf Disk 1, it loaded for a bit and then asked for Disk 1 again. Inserted the [cr Genetix] Disk 1. It loaded for a bit and then asked for Disk 2. Inserted .ipf Disk 2 again. This time I was shown the cutscene in English

Got to Mission 1, went to take a look at the job specification and I was asked for Disk 1 again... Went through the above scenario i.e. Disk 1 .ipf, Disk 1 [cr Genetix], Disk 2 .ipf and then continued.

Finished Mission 1 but before seeing the mission successful screen I was asked for Disk 1 again... Went through the same scenario again i.e. Disk 1 .ipf, Disk 1 [cr Genetix], Disk 2 .ipf and then continued.

Got to Mission 2, went to take a look at the job specification, same disk swapping scenerio...

Finished Mission 2 but before seeing the mission successful screen I was asked for Disk 1 again... Same disk swapping scenerio...

Got to Mission 3, went to take a look at the job specification, same disk swapping scenerio...

Finished Mission 3 but before seeing the mission successful screen I was asked for Disk 1 again... Same disk swapping scenerio...

Got to Mission 4, went to take a look at the job specification, same disk swapping scenerio...

After all the disk swapping, I finally was up to the part I'd been waiting for

Same f$%ked up text (see attached screen shot). This supports your theory that this is how it's supposed to be

...end of testing, phew...

You can mark these sets as fully working as I think the very minor graphic "bug" on Level 7 is probably in all versions and not part of a bad crack:

... [cr Interpol]
... [cr Genetix]


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Wow, great what you found out! Now you have found the working sets! Yeah!
Damien, your played the game to the end, it's only fair that you mark them as verified good dumps!
Please post (for idoru to rename them) the filenames and crc's of the disks that you played through and flag them with [!] at the end! Yeah!

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Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 2 of 4).adf E9F5456E
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 3 of 4).adf 27FD8C96
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 4 of 4).adf 83E6AB1F
are all: (It)
->Italian disks

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4).adf 8D86E362
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf E953C8B3
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf B560BF2A
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf F44C194F
-> [tr En Ministry]
-> [b] corrupt file

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf D2379A35
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a4].adf 9D6FC5A5
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 3DB30188
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf 08F8DEAF
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4).adf 4BB0FA59
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf 32070E27
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf DABAB326
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf 7AFF3052
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf 63392481
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 23E2D957
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf 00C97A6B
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf BC251E01
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4).adf FA35F0A5
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf E469102F
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf C3CE054E
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf F2D3D7E4
->[b] corrupt files

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf 25225C3E
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a4].adf 6CC4DA39
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 9CCE13BE
-> [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf 3A1F0928
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf 98A8BE0A
o.k.

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 2 of 4).adf 072CDBA4
o.k.

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 2 of 4)[a].adf B8BF0D1D
->remove (De), it's the (original) english language disk 2

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 3 of 4).adf E610F7CB
o.k.

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 3 of 4)[a].adf E7B6CA0D
->remove (De), it's the (original) english language disk 3

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 4 of 4).adf 3A3F65DB
o.k.

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 4 of 4)[a].adf 989E5073
-> [b] corrupt file

Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 4 of 4)[a2].adf 3022FAE0
->remove (De), it's the (original) english language disk 4

Adderly's:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf FA5DAC7A
-> add [tr En Ministry] and remove [cr Genetix]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol] [a Adderly].adf 0EA28453
-> add [tr En Ministry]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf 6FA74877
-> add [tr En Ministry] and remove [cr Genetix]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol] [a Adderly].adf C0F5649C
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf 415E652F
-> add [tr En Ministry] and remove [cr Genetix]

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol] [a Adderly].adf 3D66B338
->add (Fr), it's the french disk #4

bippym's:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 1E39EA2A
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 85B3BCFC
o.k.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 2F14591D
o.k.
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You meant [x En Ministry], not [tr En Ministry] right?
hmmm, no sorry, methinks it's [tr] (for translation). What do you mean with "x"?
From the Tosec site:
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[tr]
Translation
	[tr Language] 	Translated to Language
	[tr Language Translator] 	

Translated to Language by Translator (group or person)
It's the first time i do a translation hack rename, i'm not 100% sure. We'll see what idoru thinks about this...

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You can mark these sets as fully working as I think the very minor graphic "bug" on Level 7 is probably in all versions and not part of a bad crack:

... [cr Interpol]
... [cr Genetix]
Back online after burning some DVDs...

Actually Adderly I think I was a bit hasty in my previous response...

I would only mark [cr Interpol] as 100% working / verified as I haven't played the [cr Genetix] all the way through
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Wow, great what you found out! Now you have found the working sets! Yeah!
Damien, your played the game to the end, it's only fair that you mark them as verified good dumps!
Please post (for idoru to rename them) the filenames and crc's of the disks that you played through and flag them with [!] at the end! Yeah!
That's ok my friend. You can do this, just to be sure it's done correctly

Here's the info from my original post:

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The full names of disks that I used and worked are:

... Flashback (1992)(U.S. Gold)[cr Interpol](Disk 1 of 4).adf {crc 39e19b3d}
... Flashback (1992)(U.S. Gold)[cr Interpol](Disk 2 of 4).adf {crc e953c8b3}
... Flashback (1992)(U.S. Gold)[cr Interpol](Disk 3 of 4).adf {crc 32070e27}
... Flashback (1992)(U.S. Gold)[cr Interpol](Disk 4 of 4).adf {crc e469102f}
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Thumbs up It's done!

So, with my above renames and DamienD's playtesting we now have a working set of Flashback:

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][!].adf 39e19b3d
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][!].adf E953C8B3
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][!].adf 32070E27
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][tr En Ministry][!].adf E469102F
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hmmm, no sorry, methinks it's [tr] (for translation). What do you mean with "x"?
From the Tosec site:
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[tr]
Translation
	[tr Language] 	Translated to Language
	[tr Language Translator] 	

Translated to Language by Translator (group or person)
It's the first time i do a translation hack rename, i'm not 100% sure. We'll see what idoru thinks about this...
I'm getting confused w/ another nomenclature tool, where x = translation. I think [tr] looks too much like [t].
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You are right, trainer and translation both could be meant by [tr]
I've read on the Tosec site that new flags are planned...
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tr means translated
t means trained
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yes i know, but it's confusing if you are not a Tosec insider. As i started to learn Tosec renaming it was very difficult for me and the tr flag is very seldom. I still need to check the Tosec doks for some cases (or ask idoru )
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