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Old 10 April 2006, 09:27   #21
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That would be great if you can spend the time on it, i think the game is worth the investigation. My zoned archive has all Flashback Tosec versions in it, rebuilded with the latest dat's.
Following is an up to date list of the filenames with crc's, maybe this helps for Planetemu etc. downloaders. Please everyone, if you played Flashback and it crashed or played fine or ...
please compare with this files/crc's and post your result! This way we can mark the bad disks and the good dumps of this great game.

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 2 of 4).adf E9F5456E
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 3 of 4).adf 27FD8C96
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 4 of 4).adf 83E6AB1F
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4).adf B9607E61
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf 39E19B3D
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf A9128C90
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf A882CD2F
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf 21D60F89
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a4].adf A4DF7419
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 14BA597B
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf D67563A5
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf 07DB7D39
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4).adf 8D86E362
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf E953C8B3
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf B560BF2A
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf F44C194F
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf D2379A35
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][a4].adf 9D6FC5A5
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 3DB30188
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf 08F8DEAF
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4).adf 4BB0FA59
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf 32070E27
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf DABAB326
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf 7AFF3052
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf 63392481
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 23E2D957
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf 00C97A6B
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf BC251E01
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4).adf FA35F0A5
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol].adf E469102F
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a].adf C3CE054E
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a2].adf F2D3D7E4
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a3].adf 25225C3E
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][a4].adf 6CC4DA39
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][f AGA Nuts & Bolts].adf 9CCE13BE
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][f Infect].adf 3A1F0928
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf 98A8BE0A
Flashback (demo-playable) (1992)(Delphine - U.S. Gold).adf 530243D3
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 1 of 4).adf B3E58BD3
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 1 of 4)[a].adf D11AF302
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 2 of 4).adf 072CDBA4
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 2 of 4)[a].adf B8BF0D1D
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 3 of 4).adf E610F7CB
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 3 of 4)[a].adf E7B6CA0D
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 4 of 4).adf 3A3F65DB
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 4 of 4)[a].adf 989E5073
Flashback v1.0 (1993-04-26)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(De)(Disk 4 of 4)[a2].adf 3022FAE0

My versions not yet in the dat:

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf E807EFE7
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][a Adderly].adf B9B84348
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex][a Adderly].adf 00839A76
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf FA5DAC7A
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol] [a Adderly].adf 0EA28453
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf 6FA74877
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol] [a Adderly].adf C0F5649C
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly].adf 415E652F
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol] [a Adderly].adf 3D66B338

Bippym's versions not yet in the dat:

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 9A9B962A
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 1E39EA2A
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 85B3BCFC
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 2F14591D
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Old 10 April 2006, 10:07   #22
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Dumped my 4 disks of flashback and upped them into the zone.
Maybe you will find some double CRCs or a new [a].
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Old 10 April 2006, 10:50   #23
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The problem w/ Interpol's version is that it was released in French. Minstry released an English translation, where the user copies the file to the DOS disks. This leads to infinite checksum possibilties due to system time being different.

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Old 10 April 2006, 11:09   #24
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Thanks NOB for contribution. Your disk are:

Fb1.adf : Not in Tosec, temporarily renamed to:
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][h Spreadpower][a NOB].adf 20C292CF

The others are known tosec versions:

Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4).adf 8D86E362
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf BC251E01
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf 98A8BE0A

seems the trainer tag should be removed... Let's wait with the renaming, maybe we get more replies. Did that version works, have you played it?
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I have played it, but that was years ago...
So i canīt say if my miggy mates or i have completed it.
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Old 10 April 2006, 12:59   #26
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Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf BC251E01
Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +2 Supplex].adf 98A8BE0A

I think that the +2 supplex can be removed from these filenames as I'm sure they will work with the non trained versions!

I'm also gonna guess (cuz you guys can do the legwork) that the 2-4th disks are not specific to the interpol cracks (but will work on other fr versions).. maybe this is wrong.. who knows until checked
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Well, I can add that I have a Interpol cracked version in French, which I played back in 1993 or so, and the problem wasd that the 2nd password protection wasn't cracked properly. Fortunaltely I still have 3 of these disks, so I can transfer and upload them. However, it could be possible they were actually copied from different versions or so....it was all over 10 years ago and I games often didn't work properly and so I copied from different sources

Additionally I have a German version which is copied from the original (password not cracked), and another German one cracked by 'Deceit', which I would have to transfer.

Would these be anything new for you guys ?!

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@Overdoc.. It's worth uploading them all.. If nothing else we can eliminate them from the checks

The uncracked german versions would get a [!] flag to verify that they are original (well once they had been played through and checked to verify)
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What did you guys think about the 2 very minor "graphics" bugs I found in the version I completed?

Do you think it's possible that a file on Disk 2 + Disk 4 is slightly corrupt and therefore copying the affected file from another English version would correct this?
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and would then create another alt!!!

I think it'd be best to check the files and then mark the disks with a [b corrupt file].

We need to find a set that works and then rename that
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Yes, very true

I've just taken a look on PlanetEmu at the available so called "English" sets that I haven't tried yet. Here's some information (based on CRC32's):

... The PlanetEmu "Flashback (1992)(U.S. Gold)[cr Interpol](Disk x of 4)[a]" set is really your renamed "Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk x of 4)[cr Interpol][a2]" set...

...The PlanetEmu "Flashback (1992)(U.S. Gold)[cr Interpol][a2](Disk x of 4)" set is really your renamed "Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk x of 4)[cr Interpol][a3]" set...

No point in testing these then


This means that in terms of English versions, the only sets needed to be tested for completeness are:

1) "Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk x of 4)[cr Genetix] [a Adderly]" set.

2) "Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Disk x of 4)[cr Interpol] [a Adderly]" set.

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There is also the versions I have upped (t +1 TRSI). These are NOT in tosec as i do a scan on anything i'm renaming before I start to rename.

Maybe they are simple alts.. but they came from a complete set (together) so they need to remain together.
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Hey bippym,

I saw those ones also, but aren't they (Fr)?

... Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 1 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 9A9B962A
... Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 2 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 1E39EA2A
... Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 3 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 85B3BCFC
... Flashback (1993)(Delphine - U.S. Gold)(Fr)(Disk 4 of 4)[cr Interpol][t +1 TRSI].adf 2F14591D

At the moment given the time it takes to finish the game, I'm only going to try and test English sets (sorry to any French + German people but I'm sure you understand why)


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hmm.. yeah .. my bad
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No problem, easy mistaka-to-maka...

Out of the 2 sets described above for testing, I'll think I'll start with the [cr Genetix] set
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the disk 2's 3's and 4's off these other sets might be interchangeable!!

Usually only the first disk (main exe) is cracked...
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What did you guys think about the 2 very minor "graphics" bugs I found in the version I completed?

Do you think it's possible that a file on Disk 2 + Disk 4 is slightly corrupt and therefore copying the affected file from another English version would correct this?
Hard to say if it's a crackers fault, but if some files are defect we could at least find that out. I'll scan the disks now.
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the disk 2's 3's and 4's off these other sets might be interchangeable!!

Usually only the first disk (main exe) is cracked...
Not sure if that's true for the reasons below, but I need another English set to change this with...

Also I believe there is protection on Disk 3 + Disk 4, hence the password protection screen that appears after using the Transmitter + Reciever on Levels 5 and 7
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Hard to say if it's a crackers fault, but if some files are defect we could at least find that out. I'll scan the disks now.
Hmmm, I no expert but not sure if you will find anything corrupt with the files. Probably just that some of the files containing the 2 "possible" graphics are slightly changed but not enough to be a broken file as the game loads ok

Maybe comparing the files might show a slight difference in size or something?

I'm quite possibly wrong though...
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Hmmm, I no expert but not sure if you will find anything corrupt with the files. Probably just that some of the files containing the 2 "possible" graphics are slightly changed but not enough to be a broken file as the game loads ok

I'm quite possibly wrong though...
yes but checking these files with those that are working will give results that are hopefully favourable

Also comparing them to the files in the SPS release might help...
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