Wipe Out

[Hungry Horace]

Wipe Out by Gonzo Games. under-rated Tron-like fun.

there's a good CAPS image of this game knocking about, hopefully someone will one day WHD this game so i can avoid the annoying (and dodgy) loading system and just enjoy what this game has to offer, withought the need for that stupid "leaguedisk" thing.

plus it would mean that i could probably make the 2 player option online playable with kalliera!

[killergorilla]

I'd second this request, I was trying to play the cracked version the other day and it's AWFUL.

What a flippin mess they made of the crack!

[Hungry Horace]

someone have a heart.... lol

over 18 months later and still hoping... (this time to add it to the PSPUAE whd collection)

[Galahad/FLT]

hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Good CAPS image of a shite 'game'!

[Hungry Horace]

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Good CAPS image of a shite 'game'!

becasue one game gives you great knowledge of it? dont judge till you've played it properly


Amiga Format 85% - http://amr.abime.net/review_1987

CU amiga 81% - http://amr.abime.net/review_14841

Datormagazin 9/10 - http://amr.abime.net/review_31343


not one bad review.... cant be that bad can it then?


i think it's just too hard for you...

[Retro-Nerd]

3 of 12 points from the german ASM

http://www.kultpower.de/external_fra...dex_main2.php3

18% from the Amiga Joker.

http://www.kultboy.com/index.php?site=t&id=1894

This says it all, finest digital crap.

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

3 of 12 points from the german ASM

http://www.kultpower.de/external_fra...dex_main2.php3

18% from the Amiga Joker.

http://www.kultboy.com/index.php?site=t&id=1894

This says it all, finest digital crap.

Thank you kindly

[Hungry Horace]

well i guess it shows there is no accounting for taste - especially from the germans <joke> - but perhaps you shouldnt be so quick to assume its crap if the views are so polarised? there are still more positive reviews than negative ones.

Personally i trust the long standing and well respected Amiga Format myself - having read the review, i can tell you it is intelligently written and makes very valid points about the game, which i can verify because ive actually played it!

i'm not trying to claim its SWOS level of greatness or anything, but its one game its very easy to see as crap, but in fact isnt.


still - all this tell us is that galahad wont be making the slave for it - depsite the fact there are whdload slaves made for far far worse games. Oh well.

[Retro-Nerd]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

still - all this tell us is that galahad wont be making the slave for it - depsite the fact there are whdload slaves made for far far worse games. Oh well.

Oh yes!! CFOU! patched Yolanda, dunno why.

Mmh, it's well known that english magazines highly over/underrated a lot of games. No surprise they overrated this shit too.

[Hungry Horace]

played it a lot have you Retro-Nerd? i doubt it.


oh and you'll notice one of the postive reviews comes from a non-english mag - throwing your "over rating in the UK" arguement out the window!

i think you germans just hate everything you dont understand...


i've already said - not the "greatest" game - but to dismiss as "utter crap" just shows a unwillingness to give something different a try.


edit: anyway, im not here to discuss the pros/cons of this game - but to discuss the possibility of a whdload slave... so lets save on the "game bashing" thanks

[Retro-Nerd]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

played it a lot have you Retro-Nerd? i doubt it.

A lot? I guess 10 minutes are enough to judge this as crap.

i think you germans just hate everything you dont understand...

No, we prefer good games.

[Hungry Horace]

said already, please save on the "game bashing"

and 10 minutes is, imho, not enough to judge it (or most games) at ALL.... although if you are playing the dodgy cracked version, i could understand why you might not give it more than 10 minutes- as it makes the loading process somewhat frustrating. One of the reasons i feel the game deserves a whd slave... if it loaded comfortably, more people might realise the game's has many merits.

however, this game is pretty massive, and needs a lot more than ten minutes to get into and undestand fully, something you'd know if you'd tried it properly!

[Retro-Nerd]

Sorry for bashing your hit game, Horace. But there are better games which need to WHDfied, like Oil Imperium or Whale's Voyage.

[Hungry Horace]

well having not played (or heard of) either, that is not my place to judge - and i certainly would not say any game didnt deserve a whd slave, based on my opinion of said game (for example, Great Giana Sisters is to me, possibly the worst amiga platform game ever created - but no doubt some other people are glad to have it WHDed)

on this basis, we could go back-and-forth all year on discussing which games are more deserving, because of one person preferring the game over another game... It is all subject to taste, and it would be pretty boring if everyone rated games equally, although we would have a simpler "order" on which games were WHDed.


however, being that Wipe Out game is actually made -worse- to play because of a bad bit of cracking, and the only playable copy being on IPF (stopping anyone from enjoying it on real amigas without the original disk and necessary hardware) there is reason there to argue that Wipe Out may be in "need" of WHDing a bit more than even some recognised "good" games without WHD installs, such as Sim City, Sim Ant, or Speedball 2 which already play fine with alternative installers.

[StingRay]

I think Codetapper should do the slave as he also did the slave for Top Banana. And that's the crappiest game I've ever seen on any platform. Wipe Out can't be worse than that.

[Retro-Nerd]

Horace, shut up!!!

Giana Sisters the worst Amiga platformer? Damn, you disqualify yourself again.

@StingRay:

Try Yolanda, THIS is the crappiest amiga game i've ever seen. Besides Brattacas, of course.

[StingRay]

Hmm, I might have to check out Yolanda then. Never saw this one.

[Hungry Horace]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Horace, shut up!!!

Giana Sisters the worst Amiga platformer? Damn, you disqualify yourself again.

you're just angry because i form a better arguement than you do without calling things crap

[StingRay]

And I just checked out Yolanda. All I can say is: WTF? That's one helluva crappy game. But it doesn't beat Top Banana because Top Banana features the "better" graphics!

[Retro-Nerd]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

you're just angry because i form a better arguement than you do without calling things crap

Ok, then i quote a german reviewer:

The best of Wipe Out is cleary the thrilling written manual.

[Hungry Horace]

i thought this ^^ had stopped.

i could just post a positive quote from one of the other reviews inreply, but it would achieve nothing.


I understand you dont like the game... I do however, and there will be others out there who also enjoy it!

[Retro-Nerd]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

I understand you dont like the game... I do however, and there will be others out there who also enjoy it!

But the question is: Who shows mercy and install it for you? I would do it, if i could. Only to stop your begging for it.

[StingRay]

As usual it's all a matter of taste! But Giana Sisters the worst platform game? But as long as you don't say Top Banana is the best platform game there's still hope.

[Retro-Nerd]

A last funny thing i couldn't resist:

You need an extra disk for save states, formatted in the special Gonzo DOS format.

[Hungry Horace]

i dont like Super Mario either... no surprises i think GGS is poor-handling, horrible looking, un-needed and un-wanted clone, for which the games greatest feature is the cracktro music. i wouldnt expect everyone to agree me is the difference here.



Retro-Nerd: if forming a sensible arguement in-favour of a slave, defending a games un-needed belittling and bringing to attention something which may otherwise go un-noticed is "begging" - then that's fine for me.... its better than just writing "pleeeease" in the biggest letters EAB allows


and whats so unusual about a custom formatted save-disk?



funnily enough, im not expecting a slave out of all this any time soon, if this is the kind of hatred that is encited by a single request.

[Retro-Nerd]

It's always funny to tease you a little, because i like your serious passion in defending lousy games.

And yes, there will be a WHDLoad patch someday.

Gonzo-Dos sound funny, imho.

[girv]

The best and only reason to create a slave for a game is that it doesn't have one already

[StingRay]

Now that's typical coder's logic.

[girv]

Ask a climber why they climb mountains. "Because they're there"...

[Retro-Nerd]

Originally Posted by girv

The best and only reason to create a slave for a game is that it doesn't have one already

Have you played it, girv? I assume you like the slow, jerky and ugly graphics, the crappy controls, the useless mini radar......

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by girv

Ask a climber why they climb mountains. "Because they're there"...

So true, so true!

[Graham Humphrey]

Oh, and Giana Sisters is crap

[girv]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Have you played it, girv? I assume you like the slow, jerky and ugly graphics, the crappy controls, the useless mini radar......

Can you play it from hard drive on an A1200 060 ? No then

[Retro-Nerd]

Originally Posted by girv

Can you play it from hard drive on an A1200 060 ? No then

Good argument.

So you make Horace happy, with a WHDLoad patch?

[Hungry Horace]

you know what to do about that then Girv... hehe


lmao @ "crappy controls" - i always really struggle with joystick left/right, up & down to accellerate/brake & fire to jump.....

[Hungry Horace]

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

So you make Horace happy, with a WHDLoad patch?

i've already hassled Girv enough with Bloodwych slave updates (of which i have more to request once i have thought them through/ think Girv is up to taking my requests!)


im not sure one man alone deserves that much punishment

[girv]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

i've already hassled Girv enough with Bloodwych slave updates (of which i have more to request once i have thought them through/ think Girv is up to taking my requests!

lalala im not listening lalala

[Hungry Horace]

after KG sent me some generic installer stuff to try out (file and disk-image slaves) which he'd used on the Croak installer, i thought i'd have a go at trying to make a slave for this.


alas, even the cracked-to-dos version refused to work. (exitting after the crappy cracktro) whilst the disk-image version still tried to access the floppy drives before quitting out.


im beginning to lose hope on ever getting an installer for this mis-understood gem.

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by Hungry Horace

im beginning to lose hope on ever getting an installer for this mis-understood gem.

Finally, he's getting the message!

[Hungry Horace]

glad to be a source of amusement to you Galahad.

whatever happened to good manners?




thought you guys were supposed to "enjoy the challenge" or something like that

at least i bothered to try and do it myself, which most people probably wouldnt have.